The day Trigger turned into Junkman - P6 Content

[Eddie Honda]

  On 03/09/2016 at 10:31, Junkman said:

Yeah, but sometimes one just has to flout stupid laws.

I'm not saying children shouldn't be safe in a car

I had a week or two when I had to take my then 4 yr old to nursery 9 miles away. He seemed quite happy sitting in the rear of the GS beltless and I was surprised that he wasn't fannying around and sat nicely.

 

I did the same when I was his age...

 

#1970sdad

 

Whilst I know that's not flouting, I have had the youngest in the same car before he was 3 out of necessity for a local run.

 

Now I've to work out when I can be bothered to take them pillion...

[Junkman]

  On 03/09/2016 at 13:32, Eddie Honda said:

I had a week or two when I had to take my then 4 yr old to nursery 9 miles away. He seemed quite happy sitting in the rear of the GS beltless and I was surprised that he wasn't fannying around and sat nicely.

 

I did the same when I was his age...

 

Unlike me, who usually stood upright between the front seats as a toddler.

All the way to Italy, if neccessary.

[Tamworthbay]

The problem with 'I did this and lived' stories is that by their very nature they don't include the 'I did this and died horribly as I was thrown through the windscreen at great speed and smashed my skull on the front of the other car as my horrified parents watched on/ died as well because they couldn't be bothered to belt up'.

 

I happily take my daughter in the back of the Dolomite but not until the belts were fitted. The difference between sensible and stupid risk to me.

[danthecapriman]

I remember going out in my Grandad's Talbot Horizon with no belts in the back. Me and my cousin would be sat on the glorious beige seats with a couple of old settee pillows bouncing and sliding around. And a mates mum had a mk1 Sierra with no rear belts, me and him would also sit up front in the passenger seat with the one belt around us both! It was normal back then.

 

But, if I had kids of my own there's no way I'd allow them out in a car without sufficient seat belts. If the car had no belts it'd either be getting some fitted of they won't be going out in it! The thought of what could happen doesn't bear thinking about. That said I've no problem being in a car myself without seat belts, but it's different with kids.

[Junkman]

For small children, I always found the lap belts quite good.

There was no way to fit a child seat into my '78 Caprice, so we put my nephew, who was a toddler back then,

in the middle of the front bench and fastened him with the lap belt there.

And thanks to the massive tunnel, he could even put his feet on top of that.

Their feet always dangling in mid air is something I find extremely disturbing with those child restraint devices.

[Tamworthbay]

We live in a different age safety wise which is a good thing, as kids we travelled down to Wales to see relatives in the back of a transit with five of us (Mum and four kids) sat on a mattress and brother and Dad up front. We also used to go out in my Uncles Moggies, three in the front and four in the back. There are pictures of me sat in the car on my Dads lap in the front aged about 18 months. You would (rightly) be locked up for that now. What is strange is how many cars had rear seatbelt mountings years before the belts became a common sight. Obviously not a big seller when the options lists were discussed.

[I_am_Diesel]

When you bought that Dolomite I thought it was a cracking buy but the Rover has topped it by a country mile. Cracking car that, my Grandad had one and he didn't do shit cars.

[Felly Magic]

Trigger might of heard about this, happened recently, just a few hundred yards from where I live, but involved a modern. 20 mth old in a forward facing child seat in the front passenger seat of a Polo, driver arse ends another car whilst rummaging for the kid's dummy as it was allegedly crying, kid was restrained in the child seat, BUT the daft cow hadn't made sure the child seat was actually restrained, child seat thrown forward, kid hits the dashboard just as the passenger airbag deploys, child was airlifted to Addenbrookes, but died the next day from their injuries. 30 seconds of a parents stupidity!

[Junkman]

No airbag is likely to kill someone in a P6.

[beko1987]

Eva loves being in the car without a seatbelt on, we do it every time we drive on private property, usually at whatever holiday camp we are staying at the year coz we r lazy and will drive about.

 

One time we were driving to the beach bit (and in my defence it's down a fuckoff big hill, and I'm lazy), and I braked a bit too sharply, and because she doesnt know how to brace, she flew forward and smacked her nose on the dashboard. Luckily she started laughing rather than crying...

 

Made me think about my dad, who always used to hold his arm out and push me back int othe seat if he had to emergency brake, despite me being strapped in (still does it now FFS), and whilst I've never done it to Eva (never had to emergency stop with her in the car), I can see why he did it, maybe the front seatbelt in his granada was fucked and I didn't realise...

 

Eva gets very upset when we are on a normal road and she has to be strapped in, luckily I buy cars with no front passenger airbag, so she is fine!

[cort16]

I saw this beauty today. The guy had a resto photo album sitting out from when it was done about 10 years ago and it was like looking at  a car crash.  I was just gawping slack jawed at the horror in the pictures it looked totally fucked and had been taken back to practically nothing and built back up again. Looks great now though.

The carbs and inlet manifold look a bit different from my one. i guess they must have changed something in the later ones.

 

[Junkman]

  On 03/09/2016 at 18:56, cort16 said:

The carbs and inlet manifold look a bit different from my one. i guess they must have used whatever the supplier not currently on strike delivered.

 

EFA

[BorniteIdentity]

  On 03/09/2016 at 15:50, Felly Magic said:

Trigger might of heard about this, happened recently, just a few hundred yards from where I live, but involved a modern. 20 mth old in a forward facing child seat in the front passenger seat of a Polo, driver arse ends another car whilst rummaging for the kid's dummy as it was allegedly crying, kid was restrained in the child seat, BUT the daft cow hadn't made sure the child seat was actually restrained, child seat thrown forward, kid hits the dashboard just as the passenger airbag deploys, child was airlifted to Addenbrookes, but died the next day from their injuries. 30 seconds of a parents stupidity!

It happens. I'm fairly confident the 'daft cow' won't make such mistakes henceforth.

[trigger]

Yeah i remember the child who got killed, absolute tragically.

 

So after forking out £20 to have two front tyres fitted i got home and had a look at the exhaust blow, the nuts that hold the downpipe to the manifold were all lose so i nipped them back up, it's still blowing though but it's not as bad. Should there be a sealing ring between the two?

 

I also got the highlevel brake light removed so if you want it Vulgalour then it's yours, a massive thank you to Conrad D. Conelrad for the gift too! Loved the typewriter printed envelope!

 

 

This afternoon my mum and her partner came over so we all bundled into the old girl to buy meat in a near by village.

 

Check out my lows

 

 

 

We stopped at a village pub on way back where it got a few compliments from the locals, mind you it proper pissed it down on the way back, on the plus side it doesn't leak and the wiper work well!.

[LC Torana]

When you drive one of these in the wet, you appreciate the roadholding - just amazing, even by modern standards.

Until you strike a crosswind, of course.

 

Now, when my sister's kids were infants needing those plastic monstrosity child seats, I found a proper factory-finished hole stamped in the rear deck dead-centre behind each rear seat, so fitting the bracket for the child seat was a cinch.

 

Mind you, that might have been an ADR compliance thing, so might only be found in the superior NZ-assembled cars.

[trigger]

These also have the rear belt mounting points amazingly even at this age, it makes fitting the belts a doddle.

[Eddie Honda]

  On 03/09/2016 at 23:18, trigger said:

These also have the rear belt mounting points amazingly even at this age

Indeed, from the very start I recall. Made mandatory on anything from around 1981, so well ahead of the game.

[LC Torana]

Must take a photo - I did the same as you in my car: fitted inertia-reel rears when the 1977 originals disintegrated.  The reel-box on the parcel shelf is a little unsightly, yes, but I offset that by choosing tasteful tan-coloured belts to match the upholstery.

 

They are so good, I now want to upgrade the fronts to match.

[plasticvandan]

I'm sure some vinyl covered covers could be made to fit over them to match the sherlf

[DeeJay]

I don't know if you've fixed the brake light but if it's a wiring issue could you use the old high level brake light wiring as a temporary fix?

 

 

(Temporary as in till you sell the car).

[trigger]

The brake light ended up being a dodgy bulb holder, a good clean on the terminals and it's now sprang back into life again.

 

At last some photos not taken on my mobile!. I still haven't touched the bodywork with the polishing rag or the seats with the leather balm and tomorrows job will be fixing this exhaust blow hopefully as well as changing the oil all being well.

 

For now though here's a load of photos i took this morning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lankytim]

This is just brilliant. The more I look at it the brillianter it gets. 2.5k seems huge VALU too, can't see you losing out when you sell it.

[trigger]

I think it's a fair price, the plate alone is probably worth £1000 if i was to sell it, (Not that i would as it's part of the cars history and it's original), When you consider i got £5000 for the Cortina and this cost half that but drives far nicer all round it's amazing these aren't worth more. I guess nostalgia has a lot to answer for that though.

[Skizzer]

Lovely, lovely car. You do know how to sniff 'em out, Trig.

[phil_lihp]

That is just plain glorious, I've missed the boat on these sadly but they do still seem relatively very cheap for what they are.

[Ghosty]

  On 04/09/2016 at 20:30, trigger said:

 I guess nostalgia Life on Mars has a lot to answer for that though.

 

Another factor?

[trigger]

LoM had a lot to answer for Mk3 Cortina values!

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

This is such a beautiful car.  It is in superb condition too.

[captain_70s]

  On 04/09/2016 at 21:19, trigger said:

LoM had a lot to answer for Mk3 Cortina values!

Blue badge on the front does nothing to hurt old car values either.

 

I find Rover P6s still have that stigma of being BL era tat among the general populace, I say to non-car people I want a Rover P6 and they say, "ugh, a Rover".

[RoadworkUK]

Seriously Trig, that's something else.

 

And I'm not sure that dashboard has been beaten in 45 years of trying.

 

 

Edit: For years and years I've been going on about how the dashboard on the pre-airbag Rover 800 acknowledges the P6- note how the wood trim on yours flows around the dash above the shelf:

 

 

Rover P5 had the same feature.