messerschmitt owner Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm finding that my Merc estate and Dispatch Combi are getting too wee for the stock I am carryimg. The dispatch has just (at 216,000 miles) shat itself again with a £250 repair required to the induction system (again, and with the part lasting a mere 3 months) so it is heading to the great garage in the sky shortly. This leaves me with a dilema. I need a new van - but budget is tight. I also require occasional use of four seats and the ability to get over the Severn Bridge for car rate (as otherwise it isn't worth crossing the bridge into Wales on a van rate), so it's ideally a combi with a set of three seats in the back. It also has to be LEZ complant because I go there every month without fail. Remit: Something up to £1500, swb or mwb, but definitely not a lwb. Six seats, LEZ compliant, can carry a tonne in comfort without looking like its arse is scraping the ground. Are Renault DCi vans as bad as the cars for eating their engines? Should I just by a trannie? WIll Billy recommend an Iveco? Are Toyota Hiaces any good and will the diesel engine eat its headgasket for breakfast? Are VW transporters purchasable in decent nick without a surfboard on the roof? Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 You are gonna struggle to get a transporter with rear seats, or one of any description really for that budget. Don't know what the rules are on the Severn crossing but would suggest a smiley transit, possibly a mk1 Vito? Vivaro/Trafic/etc are often available as 6 seaters and well rated but possibly a bit out of budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadworkUK Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Ebro, innit. mouseflakes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 problem is LEZ - this means it must be 2001 or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 ooh - this is LEZ compliant supposedly! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Hiace-Super-Custom-8-seater-minibus-Retro-/191956458572?hash=item2cb17f1c4c:g:334AAOSw9NdXvLJE Faker and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Citroen XM Estate Pez with the rear seats removed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Citroen XM Estate Pez with the rear seats removed...much as I'd like another XM, it is too wee. If the Merc can't cut it, an XM won't. I'm going to check on that Hiace with TfL tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 My Caddy is LEZ compliant and you can fit seats in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Currently running a 205k mile Renault Trafic 1.9 DCI - it's a well used old thing but not showing any signs of eating itself just yet. Cleaning out the EGR valve and keeping an eye on the oil level essential. messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Tow-a-van? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm pretty sure if it's a people carrier rather than a commercial then it's LEZ compatible. messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm pretty sure if it's a people carrier rather than a commercial then it's LEZ compatible.I think that's right - it's also how my dispatch gets over the bridge at car rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The bridge have odd rules. Don't they charge you as a van if you're in a car with the rear seats folded down or something ridiculous? I just ignore the bridge myself. The toll is bloody ridiculous for the tiny stretch of water crossing. messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Ian, The bridge have odd rules. Don't they charge you as a van if you're in a car with the rear seats folded down or something ridiculous? I just ignore the bridge myself. The toll is bloody ridiculous for the tiny stretch of water crossing. Ian, you live in mid Wales, so it's really easy to avoid the bridge but I'm 30 miles via bridge or near 60 via Gloucester to get home. I think the tolls are electronically worked out from your vehicle reg - so a combi counts as a car but a van with only front seats is a van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodweaver Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Ain't it obvious? Chrysler Grand Voyager! fraser.innes.3 and messerschmitt owner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 jesus, no! chodweaver and anonymous user 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 How big does it need to be? I'd recommend a Berlingo car as the interior is huge and they are good for going to the top without needing a licence. For sheer interior space/small exterior, the older Kangos take some beating. Again get a car type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Ian, Ian, you live in mid Wales, so it's really easy to avoid the bridge but I'm 30 miles via bridge or near 60 via Gloucester to get home. I think the tolls are electronically worked out from your vehicle reg - so a combi counts as a car but a van with only front seats is a van. I still avoid it, even when coming up from the South West. The price is grossly disproportionate. Adds a ton of time, and Gloucester can be very unpleasant to negotiate, but sod 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 As long as it's pez powered, it's not affected by the LEZ. Hence: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Trafic-1993-petrol-old-school-van-windows-LEZ-compliant-/222225560961 oldcars, messerschmitt owner, Slartibartfast and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Discovery? On the Severn Bridge question, I was pleasantly surprised to be charged the regular car rate when towing a Rancho on a twin axle trailer... So could a trailer be part of the solution here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Here is a checker whether a vehicle is affected by the LEZ or not: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone/check-if-your-vehicle-is-affected Note: A Minibus designed to have fewer than nine seats including the driver is classed as a passenger car, hence is not affected by the LEZ, even if OMGDEISL.So that opens the door quite a bit. And Skizzer's idea should be considered - why not chuck the Dispatch and buy a tow bar and trailer for your Benz?The only downside to this is that trailers are made by the devil and should be avoided like the clap... messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Espace messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 And Skizzer's idea should be considered - why not chuck the Dispatch and buy a tow bar and trailer for your Benz?The only downside to this is that trailers are made by the devil and should be avoided like the clap...having sold a 2004 Mercedes 416cdi motorhome at nine years old as it was LEZ non compliant at age seven, I know the tfl site. Unfortunately, I like the idea of the stock being undercover and not in a trailer. Next month I'm doing a show in Perth - only 400 miles away and I'm not towing and being limted to 60... Asked questions of that Hiace - I do love them, and I like the early Trafics too. Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 C15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 a car-derived van - C15, Berlingo, etc, doesn't cut it. The dispatch is already bigger than all of those. It's definitely one capable of carrying a ton that I need. Spent all day trawling the net for vans - and having a chat later with a Hiace owner ... anonymous user 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Something with an LPG conversion? Seen a few Transit dual fuels about messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222233223752 messerschmitt owner and mouseflakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ldCh0d Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I would be wary of Transits, especially the 2001-2006 models. Aside from TDCi fuel pump & injector woes, most of them now are VERY VERY crusty underneath, check very carefully if going to get one. Rear spring hangers, cross members, rear floor, front steps, sills(inner & outer) are just a few little places to check.Otherwise, they are alright. messerschmitt owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 C15? Better off walking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 I am wary of transits, especially as they seem to have harder lives than any other van apart from a sprinter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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