BorniteIdentity Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 I've never done this before because, generally, I don't car. I just drive. But I'd like to learn and keep things on a tight budget. Is this fillable and repairable with filler sanding and an aerosol or is it too far gone? I have zero appetite to learn about weldering. Hope to hear. Me x Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Dick Cheeseburger Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 When I were but a lad, I would have ground that out, kurusted the surrounding metal, loaded it with fibreglass paste to almost flush, skimmed with filler, then sprayed with airyassholes. To protect it, I'd have wobbed some underseal on the back of it. Problem is, and I discovered this several times, within a couple of months of damp weather it'll be showing again. For a quick tidy up, it's well worth it. If you plan on keeping the car longer term, I'd recommend befriending a local welder. Twiggy 1
anonymous user Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 If you plan on keeping the car longer term, I'd recommend befriending a local welder.bulk buying gaffer tape and learning to live with rust spike60, alf892, Twiggy and 2 others 5
BorniteIdentity Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 It's valuable experience like this that I come here for. I could just send it to AngryDicky as he nailed the Sierra work wonderfully. (!!) myglaren, Twiggy, egg and 3 others 6
richardmorris Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 As above, unless you cut out the worst it will be back again if you just jenolite/kurust it.
plasticvandan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Everything can be repaired with filler and arseoles.likewise it can be cut out,welded and resprayed.The only factors are.A how long do you want to keep the car for,and B how much can you spend. Bobthebeard 1
srad34 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Hoped this was a thread about Love Puddings.....#dissapointed
purplebargeken Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Bakewell Tart and custard......., oh. egg 1
Split_Pin Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 If* this were Retrorides you would have pop riveted some plastic extended arches over that, fitted 12J banded steels leaning in at 45 degrees and the whole car sclaffing along the ground. However, as this is here, those arches are gone and will require replacement. If replacements are not available, your welder might be able to adapt something else. They don't look a millions miles off MK3 Astra Items. Dippy, AlabamaShrimp, BorniteIdentity and 2 others 5
D Spares & Tyres Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 cut rot weld new metal to an approximate shape fill to a better shape paint. anything less is pointless and will come through again. Don`t be scared of welding, its not difficult.
BorniteIdentity Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 cut rot weld new metal to an approximate shape fill to a better shape paint. anything less is pointless and will come through again. Don`t be scared of welding, its not difficult.It's difficult to do well... And I'm not very patient. Vendor not entertaining offers atm because a mate of his told him "it's with £500 all day m⅞". Pokerface time. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Sheefag 1
sierraman Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 If you could joddle the edge, you could bond the repair panel on with Araldite or suitable strong adhesive. Unconventional perhaps but it'd do.
hairnet Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Bakewell Tart and custard......., oh.vanilla ice cream and malteasers - oh shit
plasticvandan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Tin of tapioca pudding,tipped out on to bowl,cold.
Ghosty Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Pudding? Use dried Weetabix. saucedoctor and BorniteIdentity 2
Cavcraft Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 I fibreglassed and filled the bottom of the door and the rear arches on my Mk5 Cortina and the 'repairs' outlasted the rest of the car. saucedoctor and Uncle Jimmy 2
For Fiats Sake Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Steamed treacle pudding with custard - rust will show through though.
danthecapriman Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 As others have said, cutting and welding is the only lasting proper fix.If you just stuff it with filler it'll look ok until winter. Once it starts getting wet and salty again the old rusty metal will keep rusting away underneath the filler and paint. Eventually it'll blister and then after a while the filler will become loose and start to fall out as the rust hole is now bigger. The same applies to an mot cheapo plate welding repair. Just sticking some steel over a rust hole leaves the rust behind it. This then continues to rust away and eventually rusts through the plate aswell. The only way to do it right is cut away all the rusty flakey metal. This is my old Granada bonnet. The rust holes here were stuffed with filler and fibreglass but I'd noticed it blistering and getting worse and worse. I swapped the whole panel in the end but pulled all the filler out of this one to see how bad it'd got. You can see some of the filler in the hole on the end near the blue screwdriver handle. I'd recommend learning to weld. It's a great skill to have and mig welders aren't expensive anymore. BorniteIdentity and Angrydicky 2
danthecapriman Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Just to add, if your not bothered about the car too much then go for it. I once did a G reg Toyota Corolla by making a former from cardboard to match the shape of the sill, then taped it in place and poured in chemical metal from behind! One it had set hard I peeled the cardboard former away, painted the 'repair' with underseal and sent it for re test, which it passed! I also did a mini by using lollipop sticks as a former and sculpting filler onto it. Once sanded and painted you'd never of known! Again, it went through the test like that and lasted years.
plasticvandan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Not that I ever did this but you can make good* repairs to a morris minor door pillar using a piece of biscuit tin fed through a hole with a smear of fibreglass around the edge to affix it to the pillar,while pulling it against the hole.very thin skim of filler and paint,never know it was there,and passes the mike brooha magnet test too! danthecapriman 1
2MB Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Poke it with a screwdriver and see how bad it really is before you decide how much wob to buy
vulgalour Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 By all means do... Just be aware this happens rather rapidly. danthecapriman, Shep Shepherd and Uncle Jimmy 3
danthecapriman Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Everything about that first pic represents this place Vulg. Rusty Princess, shitty old tin of rust converter and a remould tyre! vulgalour and Uncle Jimmy 2
Ghosty Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 It looks like an old Starlet/Tercel/vaguely interesting Toyota so it might be worth doing a decent job??
BorniteIdentity Posted August 15, 2016 Author Posted August 15, 2016 It looks like an old Starlet/Tercel/vaguely interesting Toyota so it might be worth doing a decent job?? It's a 70 series Starlet. The old RWD ones are now way above my paygrade, so this is the next best thing. The bloke advertised it on some Jap Facebook page again last night after he declined my offer - and was then met with more offers below mine. Hopefully he'll sober up and we can do a deal... but I'm not biting at asking price.
plasticvandan Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 All boils down to if its a keeper,the physiological benefits of knowing its been done properly outweigh the saving of bodging it sometimes.Let's just say you wanted a top class bodge,can oif primer £10 can of mixed paint,£10,lacquer £10,filler/fibreglass paste £20,flatting paper £5,several days doing it, re doing it again in 6 months.I vote for an autoshite mobile welderist scheme danthecapriman, Angrydicky and BorniteIdentity 3
beko1987 Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 Id be up for this autoshite welderist scheme to make their way down to Oxfordshire any time they like...
Dick Cheeseburger Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 Not that I ever did this but you can make good* repairs to a morris minor door pillar using a piece of biscuit tin fed through a hole with a smear of fibreglass around the edge to affix it to the pillar,while pulling it against the hole.very thin skim of filler and paint,never know it was there,and passes the mike brooha magnet test too!Now I don't feel quite as bad being caught, a number of years ago, loading filler into the footwell of my old Mk2 Astra inastate. It was one of the frilly bits on the car, and the mate who witnessed it worked in the local bodyshop. He's never let me live that one down...
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