There is a bit of a chaos up here - Sink Hole on M 62

[Guest Lord Sward]

I'm waiting for someone to blame it on the gays or the muslims. Bonus points for it being the gay muslims fault, natch.

 

 

If we weren't bombing the merry fuck out of gay muslims in some country most of us have never heard of, for something we're not sure of, we might not have needed to decimate the already pitiful Department of Environment budget.  Or whatever it is they call it when they pretend to fund it.

[MarvinsMom]

one thing that i wonder about is that currently we are in the midst of an ill advised and cheap credit fuelled building craze, 

 

which remembering how the last one ended is perhaps unwise?

 

but these shitty little boxes that "property developers" are throwing up are just feeding into existing drainage networks.

 

networks that in many places, such as leeds and manc will date back into the 19th century and are based on 6 inch dia pipes.

 

has anyone thought how these nasty little new housing developments will effect the existing drainage networks.

 

no, i didn't think so......

 

 

and incidentally, those merry gay muslims above would gleefully kill every single one of the white folks in this country, either by cutting you're throat, blowing you up, burning you alive, throwing you off of a tower block, chopping your head off, blowing themselves up while stood next to you, and so on.

[doobietoo]

Dredging just speeds up the flood water. Not good.

 

You must work for the environment agency as that is their line..... but after the calamity in the somerset levels they dredged the area again for the first time in years and surprise surprise no more floods.... This speed business is pure bull.... if a river is twice the depth it holds twice as much water therefore the level it reaches when too much water flows through is lower....

 please explain how speeding up the flow of water to the sea/exit point increases flooding???? as I have never seen an explanation which makes any sense but it seems to be accepted as the Enviroment agency says so...

[Lacquer Peel]

Would it not increase the capacity of the river and allow the water to flow away?

 

I am not a civil engineer. Or even a feckin uncivil one.

 

That's the theory but it channels more water downstream, creates 'pinch points' where bridges and weirs can be washed away,  we need controlled flooding where it'll do minimal damage. Barren uplands with no vegetation hold hardly any water, so re-naturalising would help.

 

I'm not an engineer either, but I am interested in the subject.

[MarvinsMom]

that is what has been done to defend pickering from future flooding.

 

a plantation of conifers upstream near flyingdales has been chopped down, and measures to reintroduce the natural stagnam(?) mosses which used to grow on the high moors, the theory been that these mosses will hold a larger volume of water, and gradually let any extra flow into the river courses at a slower rate instead of just allowing the rain to run straight off of the moors into the rivers, which is what was happening.

[Lacquer Peel]

You must work for the environment agency as that is their line..... but after the calamity in the somerset levels they dredged the area again for the first time in years and surprise surprise no more floods.... This speed business is pure bull.... if a river is twice the depth it holds twice as much water therefore the level it reaches when too much water flows through is lower....

 please explain how speeding up the flow of water to the sea/exit point increases flooding???? as I have never seen an explanation which makes any sense but it seems to be accepted as the Enviroment agency says so...

 

Naturally the flood water would disperse upstream into natural flood plains, if the whole river is dredged it's channelled towards pinch points like walled/hemmed in parts of the river in villages and towns where it overflows. I am glad Somerset hasn't been flooded again, but I doubt if dredging helped.

[Guest Lord Sward]

We should ban sheep.  That would solve a lot of the flooding problems.

[Richard]

But sheep are so absorbent, imagine how much worse the flooding would be without them.

[chaseracer]

^ Lambing season is upon us.  Could all the extra sheep not be used as emergency sandbags?

[Guest Lord Sward]

I've listen to Radios 2 & 4 and watched 'Country File'.  Sheep are definitely to blame.  

[garbaldy]

and incidentally, those merry gay muslims above would gleefully kill every single one of the white folks in this country, either by cutting you're throat, blowing you up, burning you alive, throwing you off of a tower block, chopping your head off, blowing themselves up while stood next to you, and so on.

That statement has to be the stupidest thing I've read on here in a long time.

[doobietoo]

I have more than a passing interest in this as I used to run a watermill in the fens and we used to have a problem with flooding upstream. The landowner used to blame us for holding back the water to run the mill...we showed him it wasn't us by emptying our part of the river and because there had been no dredging for years his part of the river still flooded... even though our part was empty.... He being a rich and influential man then got the Environment agency to dredge the river and no more flooding...  

 Yes you may get flooding at certain "pinch points" by dredging but if you dredge the whole river this will only be minor and short lived as the water will be able to escape quicker and will still be less of a problem than the huge areas we are seeing flooded now. As there is only half a river that can be used due to the other half being full of silt which itself gets washed downstream and creates more problems there.

[Guest Lord Sward]

I'm typing this in Hawes, North Yorkshire right now.  It seems to flood here twice a month from early October until late April.

[vulgalour]

Our bungalow is still above the waterline.  Don't worry, if we get flooded the loft has a ladder so I'm sure we'll be fine.  In all seriousness though I'm glad I started the gravel removal programme on the back garden, we've had more rain since doing that and the patio is no longer flooding because the water can now escape properly rather than being held by the gravel on unperforated plastic sheeting as was the case.  Definitely putting a lawn in on the back.

[Pillock]

There's something to be said for the building on once-green land. In fact I seem to remember when building a driveway I had to use a porous material like gravel or special bricks, otherwise water that would once soak into the soil (and be buffered from entering waterways) goes into surface drains, which get to waterways much faster.

 

Also, I now know not to make a clearly fucking jokey comment about blaming it on the gay muslims in case someone takes it seriously and joins in on the rant! For anyone that remains unsure, I wasn't serious. 

[Guest Lord Sward]

 

Also, I now know not to make a clearly fucking jokey comment about blaming it on the gay muslims in case someone takes it seriously and joins in on the rant! For anyone that remains unsure, I wasn't serious. 

 

So are you for or against the war on flooding or terror?  Whats your opinion on hill sheep?

[ShiteRider]

My boss lives in Ribchester. I might have to go up tomorrow with the wagon to save what i can from his house ( him and the family are in france for christmas ).

One of the lads who lives closer is trying to get there to see how bad it is.

When it was still light he could see the garage at the bottom of the garden was under water.

His '89 911 speedster is in there...........

[MarvinsMom]

sheep?

 

best cooked in an oven, slowly with some rosemary,

 

and some veggies.

 

and gravy, lovely thick gravy.

[UltraWomble]

Most times it pisses it own this bridge catches someone out...

 

There is a dip in the road to increase the bridge height, so when flooded you dont think its as deep as it is as the road each side looks higher - that and the fact the drains are fucked.

Its a local tourist attraction - lets see who gets stranded under the bridge...

[vulgalour]

I wonder what's worse?  The moment the car tells you NOPE! or the realisation you have to open the door to get out?

[MarvinsMom]

 

we have one too, making for gr9 fun

[Guest Lord Sward]

I think they've just invalidated their Network Q warranty.

[UltraWomble]

Im hoping this will arrive before the weekend deluge that we have been forecast as well:

[STUNO]

For all you experts out there...there is only one (1) cause of flooding

 

 

RAIN

 

 

 

 

There are only two (2) reason floods are a problem

 

 

 

man and woman

 

 

 

They sat down beside a lovely river in the year 1025 and said

 

 

 

 

" what a lovely spot, let's build a city here"

[sloth]

the isuue is the uks too small. we need more land. tow irelend closer and zip tie it on.

[twosmoke300]

For all you experts out there...there is only one (1) cause of flooding

 

 

RAIN

 

 

 

 

There are only two (2) reason floods are a problem

 

 

 

man and woman

 

 

 

They sat down beside a lovely river in the year 1025 and said

 

 

 

 

" what a lovely spot, let's build a city here"

Now that's the truth !

 

I've always lived on high ground because my dad is paranoid about flooding and will never buy a property unless it's on top of some windswept hill somewhere . I'm in cornwall now which is so well drained through mining it's like Swiss cheese .

My heart goes out to people caught up in the flooding as it must be terrible esp at this time of year .

[Timewaster]

It's possible to build Road bypasses around pinch points... Why not rivers?

 

seems obvious to me but I live in a reclaimed bog surrounded by drainage ditches and a rerouted river - hand dug several hundred years ago.

 

Where is Vermuyden when you need him?

[fordperv]

4p a pop for carrier bags to keep your feet dry, outrage!

You get yours 1p cheaper than the rest of us, bigger outrage

[HillmanImp]

It's bad near me. It's swept away the local pikey site which was amusing until I realised that they need new stuff now.

 

Thankfully, my house is pretty much as high up as you can get round these parts so should not flood unless the groundwater running down from the moor comes up through the floorboards.

 

These are some photos from just down the road.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Asimo]

 

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