Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - a Workshop Day Today

[richardmorris]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

Is that a blue cloud from the exhaust?

[ianbmw]

2 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

My 2.0i Club came on Omega wheels that look ok. I have the original cross spokes, but they need a refurb and tyres.

The best bit about the early 1.8i MK3 Saloon we have  is missing, the wheel trims.

Sure there not in the boot?

[Six-cylinder]

4 minutes ago, ianbmw said:

Sure there not in the boot?

They are gone.

This is how it looks now, are you sure about doing this one!

[Dick Cheeseburger]

On 06/10/2024 at 16:53, Six-cylinder said:

The Big News of the day is the Mini Mayfair is back!

The rotten wreck that had been off the road for 25 years has been transformed into a legal running driving Mini again.

 

That's fantastic. Being honest, I didn't expect it to be an even vaguely viable project once your welder fella started poking around properly underneath. Clearly the first impressions were worse than the reality. Great work!

[Six-cylinder]

1 hour ago, richardmorris said:

Is that a blue cloud from the exhaust?

Yes.

Colin followed the Mini and it smoked very badly when they left Geoff's house. Colin thought it was stuck rings and we would have to strip the engine. 12 miles later the smoking stopped and we think it was probably still burning off the oil we put down the plug holes to unseize it.

[Zelandeth]

41 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

They are gone.

This is how it looks now, are you sure about doing this one!

To be honest, bit of time with some airbags in the doors would have that looking a thousand times better.

That really must have looked like an incredibly clean and almost futuristic looking design in 86.

[24vdiamond]

4 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

My 2.0i Club came on Omega wheels that look ok. I have the original cross spokes, but they need a refurb and tyres.

The best bit about the early 1.8i MK3 Saloon we have  is missing, the wheel trims.

I think I've a couple of new wheel trims tucked away, they must have been an expensive trim to make back in the day

[Six-cylinder]

2 minutes ago, 24vdiamond said:

I think I've a couple of new wheel trims tucked away, they must have been an expensive trim to make back in the day

When I bought the 9 Vauxhall/Opel car collection it was to own the 1976 Manta 1.9 Coupe Auto. The deal with the red Carlton Estate was always a bit separate because I promised Ianbmw I would do my best to save it. The rest were to be sold to finance the Manta project. Except Mrs6C decided she wanted to keep the Bedford CF and the blue Carlton Saloon and if I could bring home 8 cars she could pick any she liked to keep!

[LightBulbFun]

13 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Except Mrs6C decided she wanted to keep the Bedford CF

not sure what it says about me, but the Bedford CF is the one I am most rooting for!  which reminds me did they fuel pump thingy get reinstated in the end? (IIRC it would not start because some issue with that, and as such no fuel was getting to the fuel distribution thingy that sends fuel off to each individual injector)

[Zelandeth]

48 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

not sure what it says about me, but the Bedford CF is the one I am most rooting for!  which reminds me did they fuel pump thingy get reinstated in the end? (IIRC it would not start because some issue with that, and as such no fuel was getting to the fuel distribution thingy that sends fuel off to each individual injector)

I need to go poke the fuel pump again at some point.  The issues with it basically stem from the fact that when it had been sitting for god knows how long there was more water in it than diesel.  I've cleaned up what I can and it's been left pickling in a jug of fresh diesel since I last looked at it.  It really wants either sending to a specialist or replacing though.  I've made a point of not dismantling it any further than I was confident it would go back together from though in case we end up at some point making one good pump out of two or something like that.  I did have a theory in my head as to what was likely sticking and wanted to find a decent exploded diagram to see if it was viable for me to go digging, but I've forgotten what that idea was now!  As it's not mine I'm not so inclined to just take things apart to see and have a spray of springs and check balls scatter all over the garage never to be seen again.

[Tommyboy12]

13 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

Yes.

Colin followed the Mini and it smoked very badly when they left Geoff's house. Colin thought it was stuck rings and we would have to strip the engine. 12 miles later the smoking stopped and we think it was probably still burning off the oil we put down the plug holes to unseize it.

I think every Mini in the country has a light blue plume following it nowadays!

[ianbmw]

11 hours ago, Zelandeth said:

I need to go poke the fuel pump again at some point.  The issues with it basically stem from the fact that when it had been sitting for god knows how long there was more water in it than diesel.  I've cleaned up what I can and it's been left pickling in a jug of fresh diesel since I last looked at it.  It really wants either sending to a specialist or replacing though.  I've made a point of not dismantling it any further than I was confident it would go back together from though in case we end up at some point making one good pump out of two or something like that.  I did have a theory in my head as to what was likely sticking and wanted to find a decent exploded diagram to see if it was viable for me to go digging, but I've forgotten what that idea was now!  As it's not mine I'm not so inclined to just take things apart to see and have a spray of springs and check balls scatter all over the garage never to be seen again.

To be fair, that’s probably best you can do!

i honestly don’t think it’s worth fixing that old CF, but I’m happy to help refit it and throw brake cleaner down it and prove it a god awlful thing and should be scrapped.

I say this, as the only man alive who’s actually driven it!

[24vdiamond]

On 07/10/2024 at 22:55, Six-cylinder said:

When I bought the 9 Vauxhall/Opel car collection it was to own the 1976 Manta 1.9 Coupe Auto. The deal with the red Carlton Estate was always a bit separate because I promised Ianbmw I would do my best to save it. The rest were to be sold to finance the Manta project. Except Mrs6C decided she wanted to keep the Bedford CF and the blue Carlton Saloon and if I could bring home 8 cars she could pick any she liked to keep!

Excellent collection, was this some of the stuff from the late Ians estate?

[24vdiamond]

On 08/10/2024 at 00:06, Zelandeth said:

I need to go poke the fuel pump again at some point.  The issues with it basically stem from the fact that when it had been sitting for god knows how long there was more water in it than diesel.  I've cleaned up what I can and it's been left pickling in a jug of fresh diesel since I last looked at it.  It really wants either sending to a specialist or replacing though.  I've made a point of not dismantling it any further than I was confident it would go back together from though in case we end up at some point making one good pump out of two or something like that.  I did have a theory in my head as to what was likely sticking and wanted to find a decent exploded diagram to see if it was viable for me to go digging, but I've forgotten what that idea was now!  As it's not mine I'm not so inclined to just take things apart to see and have a spray of springs and check balls scatter all over the garage never to be seen again.

What engine is in the CF? Perkins or the Opel diesel?

[ianbmw]

5 hours ago, 24vdiamond said:

What engine is in the CF? Perkins or the Opel diesel?

It’s CIH 2.3 Vauxhall jobbie.

attached to a significant amount of filler that identifies as a CF cab.

can you tell I like that thing?

[Mrs6C]

1 hour ago, ianbmw said:

It’s CIH 2.3 Vauxhall jobbie.

attached to a significant amount of filler that identifies as a CF cab.

can you tell I like that thing?

I'll just leave this here...

[Dyslexic Viking]

24 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

I'll just leave this here...

I think this should be saved and get back on the road.

And it would be very useful to have around.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

On 07/10/2024 at 20:28, Six-cylinder said:

They are gone.

This is how it looks now, are you sure about doing this one!

What happened to the doors on the Carlton? 

[hairnet]

beko

[richardmorris]

6 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

What happened to the doors on the Carlton? 

A fork lift truck I think. Farmer too eager to clear the cars.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

19 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

A fork lift truck I think. Farmer too eager to clear the cars.

Confused... didn't 6cyl show a photo of it when he owned it a few years back and it looked straight? 

[ianbmw]

23 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

I think this should be saved and get back on the road.

And it would be very useful to have around.

The issue is, to leave the FOD, it would have to  go up a 1% incline…….without being towed!

 

if a diesel pump appears im happy to get it going, but it would probably need £3k welding.

it would be much more logical to find a better 2.3d engine and sling it in…….then spend thousands welding it.

 

i seem to recall the bed being bowed and the ramps being a PITA to put back in……something to do with hauling a Senstpr 24v back front Kent.

 

[Six-cylinder]

9 hours ago, 24vdiamond said:

Excellent collection, was this some of the stuff from the late Ians estate?

They are all the Cars of the late Ian Verco. 

We liked the idea of the Opel Manta but unfortantly Ian was not up to selling it to me. After he passed on they became a collection that needed a home. The simplest way to make sure I got the Manta was for me to buy the collection, keep the Manta and pass on the others. That sort of worked except I also wanted to keep the Royale, Mrs6C the CF and Carlton Saloon.  Also the deal with his Carlton Estate was it should be at least in good running order so if I passed it on it would not turn into a spares car. This was a car Ian V was well known for and why @ianbmw has given so much time to help me.

This is the Manta in the days when Ian Verco had it.

 

[ianbmw]

And I going to give even more time to get the saloon working……just to annoy you!

[Mrs6C]

Need to give a shout out to @Andyrew as well, as he has been a big part of the adventure also.

[ianbmw]

Im certainly not going to give it back all shiny like Andy did!

[Talbot]

13 hours ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

I think this should be saved and get back on the road.

It would need an inordinate amount of work to make it even remotely road legal.  And about £5k pouring into it.

... and you'd still have a 2.3D CF recovery vehicle with a bent loading bed.

Were it mine, I'd break it for spares for other CF owners and buy something that has slightly more structural integrity than a wet tea bag.

[ianbmw]

1 hour ago, Talbot said:

It would need an inordinate amount of work to make it even remotely road legal.  And about £5k pouring into it.

... and you'd still have a 2.3D CF recovery vehicle with a bent loading bed.

Were it mine, I'd break it for spares for other CF owners and buy something that has slightly more structural integrity than a wet tea bag.

It started life working as a vehicle to collect broken down (I assume flat battery) milk floats, it did that for a good number of years, before heading down the generic 3.5t recovery lorry route. It’s been hand painted more times than a ex MoD  Land Rover.

The previous deceased owner installed a hand winch as the previous leccy winch was stolen, many memories of the breaker bar which operated the winch, clocking up air miles as it flew off mid winch.

The chassis itself is fine from memory, the bed could be straightened with the use of hydraulic jacks and could safely carried light cars. But I think from memory it’s useful carrying capacity was 1250 or so kilos, or 50kilos if you want to go up hill.

If the pump re appears, il spend a few hours and see if I can get it going again. If nothing else, I’m sure it could be used to moved stuff around the FOD.

As much as I hated the thing, I remember it starting no matter what the weather, usually on 3 before remembering it’s true identity as a 4 pot.

 

[Dyslexic Viking]

I have to admit that the CF is worse than I first thought and would understand if it is parted out and scrapped but would still like to see it saved.

[Talbot]

53 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

I have to admit that the CF is worse than I first thought and would understand if it is parted out and scrapped but would still like to see it saved.

Come over to the FoD,  Bring welding wire!

Also filler.