Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - a Workshop Day Today

[Six-cylinder]

9 hours ago, Noel Tidybeard said:

the original multi piece dash was replaced with montego dash in early '86, the metro/montego style clocks replaced the fibre optic dials around '85- green dash lighting on all

the roverised montego dash came around '90/91- orange lit

 

the clock in 6cs car are the later nippon seiki unit- round trip reset, smooth dial face

earlier lucas cluster has oblong reset button which can be a pita to use & complex dial faces designed to be removeable with needles in place

city & city-x lost the electronic carb of bASe

The Maestro is away for MOT at the moment and then we can consider what to do with it next with the temp and fuel gauges.

[Slowsilver]

According to the wiring diagrams I have seen, the fuel gauge on 6C's Maestro is driven by a conventional variable-resistor sensor but the temperature gauge is driven by some sort of electronic temperature control unit. However, since neither of them work I suspect the common supply, which is usually supplied by an electronic voltage regulator, is faulty or disconnected. The problem is that on all the wiring diagrams I have found this supply is shown as going via one of the PCB tracks to a pin on an unidentified connector (presumably one of the two that plug into the dashboard) which then goes nowhere, and I can see no sign of anything that could be a voltage-regulated supply elsewhere on the diagrams.
 

[chaseracer]

31 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

According to the wiring diagrams I have seen, the fuel gauge on 6C's Maestro is driven by a conventional variable-resistor sensor but the temperature gauge is driven by some sort of electronic temperature control unit. However, since neither of them work I suspect the common supply, which is usually supplied by an electronic voltage regulator, is faulty or disconnected. The problem is that on all the wiring diagrams I have found this supply is shown as going via one of the PCB tracks to a pin on an unidentified connector (presumably one of the two that plug into the dashboard) which then goes nowhere, and I can see no sign of anything that could be a voltage-regulated supply elsewhere on the diagrams.
 

OK, all the individual words are familiar, but... 🤔😉

[Slowsilver]

Electricals is tricky to explain.
 

[chaseracer]

25 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

Electricals is tricky to explain.
 

The Owd Giffer is a retired radar/data recording engineer.  Imagine his utter frustration with me!

[Andyrew]

16 hours ago, Andyrew said:

Vp smells the scent of the "plug hole of doom" on this pipe . 

[Six-cylinder]

45 minutes ago, Andyrew said:

I think we need a bit more than that, 270, 384 or?

No weights on the weight bar.

Oh we will take it!

[hairnet]

3 hours ago, chaseracer said:

OK, all the individual words are familiar, but... 🤔😉

this.

when a dyane has three wires for everything moar is a problem :D

 

[Andyrew]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

I think we need a bit more than that, 270, 384 or?

No weights on the weight bar.

Oh we will take it!

"2100" it claims on its sexy bonnet stripe. 

My repair didnt work. Fail!

 

[Six-cylinder]

3 minutes ago, Andyrew said:

"2100" it claims on its sexy bonnet stripe. 

My repair didnt work. Fail!

 

Wow that makes it a 100 hp tractor!

[Andyrew]

 

8 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Wow that makes it a 100 hp tractor!

Yeah a flick through the manual suggests 100hp. 

The exhaust has been Repaired in the past with straight pipe. Sounds glorious. 

[Mrs6C]

1 hour ago, Andyrew said:

 

Yeah a flick through the manual suggests 100hp. 

The exhaust has been Repaired in the past with straight pipe. Sounds glorious. 

When are you bringing it over to play with the FE35 at the FoD?

[Andyrew]

53 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

When are you bringing it over to play with the FE35 at the FoD?

If i borrowed it, i Dont think id be able to handle the power!

Id think this would be the result

 

[Mrs6C]

14 minutes ago, Andyrew said:

Id think this would be the result

 

[Andyrew]

3 weeks of moving shite into the new workshop. The VP is first up on the operating table. 

(Please note the wood infront of the tyres is just in there as a just incase)

[Mrs6C]

21 minutes ago, Andyrew said:

the new workshop

Nice workshop!!!

The VP looks like a performance artiste from the circus, balancing on things!

[Six-cylinder]

1 hour ago, Andyrew said:

3 weeks of moving shite into the new workshop. The VP is first up on the operating table. 

I hope it does not mark its new territory and piddle on your nice clean concrete!

[Noel Tidybeard]

iirc the early prince of darkness maestro/montego/metro clocks do indeed have a traditional looking voltage stabiliser type doohickey on the back of the fule gauge

[Noel Tidybeard]

...not that i had 2 maestros &  montegos 😮

[Zelandeth]

If you can wait till December 3rd I'm happy to have a dig through that for you.  With a bit of patience a notepad and a meter it shouldn't be too hard to work out.  It's a pretty simple panel.

I had to fix pretty much exactly this fault on my first Metro (which has the same panel) so hopefully memory will be helpful too...Yes I do enjoy this type of job.

Plus I honestly don't think I've ever driven - or for that matter possibly even sat in a Maestro.  More Metros than you can shake a stick at, boss at the garage loved his Montego estates (this was when you could hardly give them away so the value for money was off the chart), but Maestro and Mini are two notable exceptions.

[Six-cylinder]

Wish you were here! 

[mitsisigma01]

Are you stuck in the mud 🤔

[hairnet]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

Wish you were here! 

youve invented 4wd xm now? :P

 

[Six-cylinder]

Mrs6C was concerned I had gone too far as I was just over the edge of the hardstanding! 

[Six-cylinder]

Thanks to @loserone and @Talbot we now have a replacement tyre for the JCB.

[Six-cylinder]

Poo!

We had a problem with a blocked drain under the public road to our septic tank the other side and the last manhole is under our garage floor. Parked over the cover was our Peugeot 504 Cabriolet that lost a wheel then failed to start, which had not been touched since September.

The 504 started easily and drove in and out of the garage with 2 wheel nuts without a problem. I remember the last owner telling me the 504 would cut out when hot and not restart until it had cooled down properly. The last owner worked on the ignition, but Kugelfischer injection has always been problematical. We also need to work out why the wheel fell off!

And yes we got the drain unblocked!

[loserone]

If you need someone to take away that'd horrible poo-y silver car there do just let me know, I'll be there in 6 hours

[Six-cylinder]

11 minutes ago, loserone said:

If you need someone to take away that'd horrible poo-y silver car there do just let me know, I'll be there in 6 hours

You can't be that keen, google maps says 4 hours 16 mins!

[hairnet]

hour and half

 

[hairnet]

33 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

hnnng

and thats just teh  garage