Fake policeman tried arresting me today lol

[Cavcraft]

I've often though about buying a year old two old car, putting a couple of web cams and a high vis jacket on the back shelf then having a scrolling message in the rear window.

The trouble with this idea is that 'TURN YOUR FOG LIGHTS OFF YOU FUCKING MORON' would possibly* help them to conclude I'm not a real copper.

[the judge]

All true. In my job we get ex psco dudes and specials coming in and are the most jumped up little snots ever. One recently argued a point with a long term Paramedic about a patients mental capacity,got told to shut the fuck up as he had no idea what he was on about. This gobshite still thinks he is correct and not the 10 years served Para. Despite the Para taking control of the patient under a recent law change. Stupid little cunt.

[vulgalour]

I've met a few PCSOs who are actually really good at their job and could point me in the right direction when I needed info and advice on what to do, thus freeing up regular police for more important duties.  They aren't all bad.  Though having said that there do seem to be a larger proportion of them that are self-important, arrogant, fucknuggets than should rightly be allowed and those are the ones that bring the reputation of the rest down.

[MrDuke]

Round here the PCSOs get to drive fully marked-up police Focii, although presumably they're not allowed to press any of the extra buttons inside. Maybe it's a reward for them not being nobbers - to be fair, most of them seem fairly decent.

[rich.]

read this thread with interest.. where can i get a cheap dashcam?

[Bamboocarman]

When I first got this mark 4 Escort it was all blue, no spoiler or wheeltrims, but came with the 3i spots. As such, it was exactly the same as pretty much every soft-skin RUC car of the time. It took a few weeks before I realised why no-one would overtake me on the motorway!

 

I loved that wee car but there wasn't enough mig wire in the whole world to save it.

Back in the 60s when we used to drive around as passengers in Uncle Frank's black Mk2 Consul, he used to say that people sometimes mistook it for a cop car cruising up behind them, and would slow down / pull over. Also, have noticed now and then that when I wear a white shirt, out and about during weekdays, some bikes / cars speed right up behind, slow down, then follow for a while until they realise I'm not a copper. Have noticed quite a few 'plain clothes' police cars down in Sussex over the years, most memorably a navy blue Impreza with the flashing blue lights alight behind the grille, coming off the M25 and down onto M23 at immense speed one evening about 15 years ago. Keep em peeled !

[Bamboocarman]

I was thinking PCSO too. I used to have a cop next door neighbour back in the days before PCSO's, then they had the 'Specials' (Not the ska band unfortunately) to do a similar job and my neighbour hated them & said most coppers do because they are more trouble than they're worth & tend to attract the wrong sort of people, namely those who either wanted to be cops and failed to get in or those who would never be considered in the first place. He relayed various tales of the stunts these 'Specials' did and that included doing traffic stops so I was wondering if this joker was doing likewise 'Exceeding his remit'. He also said that proper cops spent a load of time clearing up their mess and dealing with complaints about the 'Hobby Bobbies' conduct (pushing people around etc). Don't know if the PCSO's are different/better etc., I'd hope so.

Yes, this is similar to what some of the regulars down in Surrey / Sussex have told me about PCSOs in recent years.

[Pillock]

My mate had an Octavia for a while, and his work uniform included a high vis vest. He could build up miles of tailback on the motorway.

 

Specials actually have more rights than a PCSO. They can arrest, do patrols, take statements etc. PCSOs cannot and have to radio for backup if you even look at them funny. Which is daft, since PCSOs are paid and specials are not.

[DSdriver]

A friend of mine was a dog warden and the council gave her a van to use that was a police van clone. She used to complain that wherever she went she got stuck behind people doing less than the limit. 

I said to her once "you're a bit late today" and the reply was "yes, had to use the van because my car broke down"

[Ghosty]

IIRC all PCSOs can do is detain - and if the time limit for that runs out for some reason before a police officer shows up you're free to go. It's stupid, I don't get why they don't just train them as PCs/give them powers of arrest/make them useful for something.

[RedSparrow]

When I used to work for local government the PCSOs seemed to be all ex-army or ex-police (makes you wonder why they left the force...) or unemployable people with a Napoleon complex.

[Matt]

IIRC all PCSOs can do is detain

 

Technically anyone can arrest someone if they see them committing an indictable offence (PCSO's included) although it's obviously not advisable if you don't have a thorough understanding of all laws applicable to the situation and most importantly what constitutes reasonable force to keep someone under arrest/detainment; if you see someone lamp someone else you can't just launch your weight at them so they hit the floor and tell them they are under arrest, you'll get charged with assault too. I did a door supervision training course a while back in which we were taught the difference between detainment, arrest and when it is suitable to use both as well as how to forcibly eject a 'customer' and how to defend yourself against them when they fight back.

[AnthonyG]

IIRC 'Specials' have been around for while, whereas PCSO's were famously 'Blunketts' Bobbies' so are a NuLabour innovation.

 

Specials are equivalent to a regular PC and i think they get some pay in the same way someone in the armed forces reserves would be compensated for time, skills etc.

[Taff]

anyway, enough PCSO knocking, heard back from the Police yet Vince?

[Vince70]

I Got an email with a reference number from some local law enforcement campaign called operation crackdown and it said I should hear something in the next 7 days..

 

So I'm just waiting to see what's going to happen, I think it's lucky though that I had a witness to the incident so if I get a grilling about swearing at the idiot at least she can verify the incident to the police.

 

I just wish now that I had taken pictures myself of the plastic plod getting out the car in the middle of a busy main road blocking the traffic..

 

I was talking to a young lad at work about it today and he has been a special and he thinks all he will get is a letter in the post but I will have to wait and see.

[saucedoctor]

If the CPS wanted to push it, I bet they could put the fear of God into Fakecop by mentioning anti-terrorism legislation. Even if he didn't get charged under same, I reckon it might put him off in future.

 

Our (former) local butcher shop geezer got nicked with a Police uniform in his car, and they threw the book at him. Castlereagh holding centre, Special Branch, Prevention of Terrorism Act, the whole works.

[Cavcraft]

This is the internet: Has anyone suggested some ridiculously over the top act of violence, yet? Ideally preceded by 'If I were you, I'd....' 

[AlabamaShrimp]

This is the internet: Has anyone suggested some ridiculously over the top act of violence, yet? Ideally preceded by 'If I were you, I'd....'

 

If I were you I'd have.... Nah thought better of it

[bub2006]

If I were you I'd find out where he lives,torture him and bugger his dog. Feel better cav?!

[Pillock]

If I were you I'd smash the place up and demand my deposit back. Oh, wait, that's the other thread.

 

Perhaps FakePC can be employed to go to the dodgy car dealer and make up some charge to arrest him for? Winning all round then.

[chaseracer]

This is the internet: Has anyone suggested some ridiculously over the top act of violence, yet? Ideally preceded by 'If I were you, I'd....' 

 

Kidnap and fire, Billy; kidnap and fire.

 

Carry on... 

[londonm]

There are no height restrictions on joining the police, I believe the EU declared it discriminatory. A friend I no longer have anything to do with, who'd failed at everything and was fat and 5 ft 2", joined the City of London force quite easily. Quite how much use he'd have been puzzled me, I guess they could just add another foot on to the helmet.

[chaseracer]

Did they use him to plug any gaps in the "ring of steel"?

[Doctormop]

I heard somewhere that Police officers who would have been unable to join the force under the old height restrictions ie shortarses like me are known as laptops, ie very small PC's

[panhard65]

pipercub you are a prize  idiot 

 

a Special Constable holds  the office of Constable and has the full powers and responsibilities of  the Office. the entry standards for the SC are and have been for a good number of years  exactly the same as for regular service  

 

 paid police officers who don't like specials do so for one reason and one reason only  - they are ' overtime thieves ' and/or  aren;t as institutionalised into  the spanish practices.

 

everything else is bullshit made up to justify the hate for SCs - if  they behaved in the way  they behave towards specials towards other  paid officers  they would soon find themselves out on their ears , it;s just the institutionalised acceptance of this that means it was more tolerated.

 

similar issues arise in other jobs ( NHS Ambulance Service  made up issues with  / ignorance over  the role of St John and the Red Cross , Whole time vs retained trumpton bun fights , 'trained' vs 'educated' in any job where the  way you get qualified to do the job has had a quantum shift in the last 30 years ) ...

 

 

That's a bit harsh calling him an idiot for recounting a story that he had been told. I used to know a special and he was exactly that. Very "special" the jumped up little twat he was. Thats not to say that ordinary coppers are exempt from being jumped up twats as I am sure there are a few as well. Luckily I haven't had to deal with any lately.

[Taff]

If the CPS wanted to push it, I bet they could put the fear of God into Fakecop by mentioning anti-terrorism legislation. Even if he didn't get charged under same, I reckon it might put him off in future.

 

Our (former) local butcher shop geezer got nicked with a Police uniform in his car, and they threw the book at him. Castlereagh holding centre, Special Branch, Prevention of Terrorism Act, the whole works.

 

Castlereagh is a dump on a good day, never mind when your in cuffs

[AlabamaShrimp]

the 'idiot' bit comes from the confusing Constables with PCSOs because the SC Like other ES volunteers / retained fire fighters and Military reservists is twice the citizen ...

 

Special Constables are 'real ' Police Officers and more and more police services are using them for all sorts of work instead of the traditional ghettoisation of the SCs into certain duties - this in part reflects the increasingly 24/7 nature of the world of 'real life' work meaning more and more SCs will be available at differign times across the week instead the traditional ghettos of Friday and Saturday NTE Public Order duties and weekend event cover ( but not league football because the force would only be able to charge a plain time rate for them )

 

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[garbaldy]

/\ agreed

a friends fither springs to mind who I loved egging on,

he sometimes drove a fully specked police ashtray complete with specials written along the side doors, this one day I was heading to town with the misses and as approaching a t junction I saw him pass up ahead, I followed from a good distance until a long stretch of road when I hooned it past him at double the speed limit,

he lit up like a Christmas tree and gave chase so a mile or so later I pulled in and put the window down, he drew up alongside and the veins in his neck where popping out due to the sheer amount of blood they had to pump to turn his face bright red,

after much of his red faced shouting about dangerous driving and who did I think I was I simply said righto thanks for the advise and drove off

 

three weeks later he was working at my bosses refurbishing the greenhouse and he chatted to me like nowt had happened he didn't even mention it,

he was and still is a really nice bloke when in normal mode.     

[Jim Bell]

I went to school with a lad who ended up being a special.

Everyone used to say he wanked his dog off when he was at school.

 

That's the end of my true story.

[Stroller133]

Everyone used to say he wanked his dog off when he was at school.

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Didn't the teachers mind him bringing his dog to school?