Cars you didn't know existed until very recently.

[lesapandre]

This is in the Coventry Museum of Transport.

Ferguson 4x4 test mule 1952. Very neat for '52 - shows what could be done - instead some right old rubbish was foisted on the 50's driver.

[Skut]

The Effa Ideal is not something I'd ever heard of and was on FB marketplace in South America. Effa is a Uruguayan manufacturer building ckd kits of other peoples cars.

Also apparently sold in Italy as the Martin Motors Ideal 1000.

[Pieman]

Is that spare wheel bent?

[egg]

52 minutes ago, Skut said:

Martin Motors

Great find, never heard of them also made the Martin Motor Bubble...

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Motors_Bubble

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The models were assembled in a Tunisian plant under license from the Chinese automobile brand Shuanghuan for the European market.

Obvs a Smart knock off.

[egg]

5 hours ago, High Jetter said:

I'd not heard of a Rover P6 VIP until reading the latest PC. Only 77 made, apparently. (Yes, VIP not VDP)

Amazing, had never heard this despite reading and watching many P6 pieces over the years

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77 VIP models [were] made by Rover in 1976 as P6 production came to an end. At that time Rover had 77 main dealerships throughout the UK and one car was allocated to each dealership. These cars were not for sale to the public, they were intended for the manager of each branch. Of the 77 VIP’s produced only seven are known to have survived including this car.

 

[High Jetter]

10 minutes ago, egg said:

Amazing, had never heard this despite reading and watching many P6 pieces over the years

 

I know! Worked in parts for a main dealer. I knew some where taken for protection duties, but these were the ?ultimate ltd edition? No-one knew!

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, lesapandre said:

This is in the Coventry Museum of Transport.

Ferguson 4x4 test mule 1952. Very neat for '52 - shows what could be done - instead some right old rubbish was foisted on the 50's driver.

Those doors look familiar...

[lesapandre]

1954 Lanchester Leda Convertible. 1 made and last year of Lanchester production.

[Skut]

22 hours ago, Pieman said:

Is that spare wheel bent?

I've got a feeling the plastic wheel trim is mounted on an old tyre, minus an actual steel rim.  

They don't normally have wheels mounted on the boot so it would make sense. 

[quicksilver]

23 hours ago, egg said:

Great find, never heard of them also made the Martin Motor Bubble...

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Motors_Bubble

Obvs a Smart knock off.

Not according to the Greek courts.

Funnily enough I'd also never heard of this until I read about Daimler's lawsuit over it at Chinese Cars.net just the other day. Daimler got a temporary order forbidding Martin from displaying it at the Bologna show but they turned up and showed it in the car park anyway, then when it came properly to trial they lost the case as it was judged to be sufficiently different from the Smart. I'm not sure how the Greek judge reached that conclusion as it looks like an obvious rip-off to me.

[lesapandre]

6 minutes ago, quicksilver said:

Not according to the Greek courts.

Funnily enough I'd also never heard of this until I read about Daimler's lawsuit over it at Chinese Cars.net just the other day. Daimler got a temporary order forbidding Martin from displaying it at the Bologna show but they turned up and showed it in the car park anyway, then when it came properly to trial they lost the case as it was judged to be sufficiently different from the Smart. I'm not sure how the Greek judge reached that conclusion as it looks like an obvious rip-off to me.

A practice as old as motoring...Ford Y or Morris 8...or is that Morris 8 and Ford Y...

[barrett]

22 minutes ago, lesapandre said:

A practice as old as motoring...Ford Y or Morris 8...or is that Morris 8 and Ford Y...

But 'back in the day' this was usually because body pressings were shared among several marques, because they were all built by one of a handful of steel press companies, Budd or Pressed Steel usually. The Singer Bantam, for example, is identical to the Morris Eight (ie, the body is exactly the same, built on the same presses)

The weirdest one, which I only found out about recently, was the Morris Isis and Wolseley Messenger

Share a body with the Ruxton, of all things

Which just goes to show how far a snazzy paint job and a set of Woodlites can go to make something desireable

 

 

[wuvvum]

On 2/7/2023 at 3:31 PM, MiniMinorMk3 said:

1952 Pinninfarina Beetle replacement

It took VW another 9 years to introduce the Type-3

Looks like a Porsche 356 copped off with a Standard Vanguard.

[Metal Guru]

2 hours ago, barrett said:

But 'back in the day' this was usually because body pressings were shared among several marques, because they were all built by one of a handful of steel press companies, Budd or Pressed Steel usually. The Singer Bantam, for example, is identical to the Morris Eight (ie, the body is exactly the same, built on the same presses)

The weirdest one, which I only found out about recently, was the Morris Isis and Wolseley Messenger

Share a body with the Ruxton, of all things

Which just goes to show how far a snazzy paint job and a set of Woodlites can go to make something desireable

 

 

And people always say they like old cars because  “modern cars all look alike”.

[Remspoor]

19 hours ago, barrett said:

The weirdest one, which I only found out about recently, was the Morris Isis and Wolseley Messenger

This is because they were the same company. Wolseley was auctioned by the receivers in February 1927 it was purchased by William Morris. Badge engineering.

[catsinthewelder]

I think the suprise was that the 2 cars from Oxford shared a body shell with a FWD car from the States.

[Pieman]

Saw one of these on the M1 earlier.

Toyota Mk2 Tourer V, whatever that is.  Was in convoy with another Japanese import of similar size but with a bodykit etc that I couldn't identify, being transported on a beavertail

[Supernaut]

On 17/02/2023 at 23:01, egg said:

Great find, never heard of them also made the Martin Motor Bubble...

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Motors_Bubble

Obvs a Smart knock off.

No, that's clearly a Wheego.

 

[Metal Guru]

5 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

No, that's clearly a Wheego.

 

Could get tiring owning one of those. Everyone who knows you is going to start “here wheego, here wheego……….”

[egg]

36 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

No, that's clearly a Wheego.

 

The Wheego Whip was an early-2010s limited-production all-electric city car developed by Wheego Technologies, made from the bodyshell of the Shuanghuan Noble*

* Which is what the Martin Motors car is.

[puddlethumper]

47 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

No, that's clearly a Wheego.

 

So there is an Aygo, a Yugo and a Wheego. Next a Thaygo ?

[Pieman]

Lesgo?

And thanks to HubNut we already know about the Duzgo..,
 

 

[Leyland Worldmaster]

3 minutes ago, Pieman said:

Lesgo.

Aygo crazy  with all this wordplay... 

[Pieman]

3 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said:

Aygo crazy  with all this wordplay... 

Ha, I remember Evo mag featuring that cool little thing, I kinda want one!

[Metal Guru]

20 minutes ago, puddlethumper said:

So there is an Aygo, a Yugo and a Wheego. Next a Thaygo ?

I’ve had several “Willitgos”.

[Leyland Worldmaster]

13 minutes ago, Pieman said:

Ha, I remember Evo mag featuring that cool little thing, I kinda want one!

I believe someone who worked for Toyota lived near me for a while; lots of tasty Toyotas appeared in the car park- including the Aygo Crazy. It was the real deal! 😎 

[HarmonicCheeseburger]

The Vixen 21 TD

LINK

 

[HarmonicCheeseburger]

The ItalDesign Columbus.

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Nearly 6 m in length, it featured a steel box-section load-bearing chassis while the body was in carbon fibre.
The Columbus was fitted with a 5000 CC and 300 hp and V12 BMW engine fitted in a transverse mid position. Traction is permanent four wheel drive and the rear wheels may achieve an angle of 15° at low speed.

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All six passenger seats are equipped with monitors and connected to TV networks and to a VHS system. The passenger compartment lighting is guaranteed by a fibre optic system.

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Specs:
Engine Location: Mid
Drive Type: AWD

Engine Type: V12 4988 cc | 304.4 cu in. | 5.0 L.
295 BHP (217.12 KW) @ 5200 RPM
332 Ft-Lbs (450 NM) @ 4100 RPM
Bore: 3.3 in | 84 mm.
Stroke: 3.0 in | 75 mm.

 

LINK

[Leyland Worldmaster]

21 minutes ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said:

The ItalDesign Columbus.

LINK

A true 'Land Yacht' 😎😎😎

[Remspoor]

14 hours ago, Leyland Worldmaster said:

A true 'Land Yacht' 😎😎😎

more like the Dutch ICM (InterCityMaterieel)