Christine Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 I just googled LGBTQ as i'm an ignorant .. ....and my screen went all rainbow colours how cool's that ? Shep Shepherd, Mrs6C and vulgalour 3
Matt Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 I love those side profiles! I would love to have one for each of the cars I've owned. vulgalour 1
vulgalour Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 Commissions are available. Skip to P1 for full details on that.
Shep Shepherd Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I'm certain that T-shirt design would go down a storm with many LGBTQ+ car enthusiasts, and no doubt many of their allies. Have you considered letting the Gay Classic Car Group know about it? chodweaver and vulgalour 2
New POD Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I just googled LGBTQ as i'm an ignorant .. ....and my screen went all rainbow colours how cool's that ?because Google knows something new about you I am wondering what adverts ah's news feed changes you will see?
fordperv Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Somebody really missed a trick not suggesting the Kia pride loserone, vulgalour, dozeydustman and 3 others 6
vulgalour Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 Shep: that's a good call. I'll give them a prod. Shep Shepherd and dozeydustman 2
Noel Tidybeard Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 i for one have no problem with you using the term queer a LGBTMGBQ+ seems a right mouthful! then again i'm of an age where being queer could just as likely mean you are strange and being gay means cheerful! eddyramrod 1
vulgalour Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 I reckon that's why I like Queer more, it gives you free license to just be yourself and it's entirely okay. The ever expanding acronym takes too much explaining. Got the first 4 of 7 images completed today, 2 of these originals are off to folks that made suggestions that I could use in the set. I'm planning to sell the other originals - Hovercraft, Caraboat, Helicopter - with the profits from those going to charity too. The proceeds from the sale of the Hovercraft original will go directly to RNLI rather than Pride, but sales from the final Pride themed image that include it will go to Pride itself. Send me a message if you'd like to purchase the Hovercraft, Caraboat, or Helicopter, and we'll sort that out. These would normally retail in the region of £40-60 each, unframed, so donations in that region would be appreciated. On the charity front, I shall probably be sending proceeds from this little project to Northern Pride: http://www.northern-pride.com/ as they seem the best fit for what I want to do. Uncle Jimmy 1
UltraWomble Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 I reckon that's why I like Queer more, it gives you free license to just be yourself and it's entirely okay. I think people get too hung up on lablels. Im a male nurse working in a jail - the world is split into two types - Twunts, and Not Twunts. Anything else (such as who you like to get jiggy jiggy with) is utterly irrelevant. Lovely artwork though. Shep Shepherd, red5, chaseracer and 3 others 6
Parky Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 For the ultra camp and flamboyant, have you googled the Liberace car museum? Absolutely Fabulosa, lots of customised stuff as you can probably imagine. Definitely not for the subtle of heart though. Shall we just say I doubt he ever came out of Asda and wondered to himself “where the fuck did I park the car?” Definitely a potential source of ideas anyhoo.
vulgalour Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 I'm familiar with who Liberace is and his vehicles. Style icon, right there. In unrelated news, I'm off to buy my own bodyweight in mosaic mirror tiles. UltraWomble, chodweaver and eddyramrod 3
Parky Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 And feathers. Don't forget feathers binhoker668 and vulgalour 2
Felly Magic Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 I'm a big supporter of pride, my next door neighbour is transgender, and I have many gay friends, and every one of them are fabulous people, and I'm so happy that I'm friends with them, as when I've been out on the lash with them, it has been an utterly brilliant night, usually ending with us karaokeing some seriously camp songs. Ayngl, you seem a top bloke to me, and have some seriously artistic skills, I wish I could afford a commission of my old Skoda Favorit, maybe one day eh? Shep Shepherd, vulgalour and binhoker668 3
vulgalour Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 You know where to find me when you're ready. If you have a relative/friend/loved one who is struggling for a gift idea, commissioned originals are a great option. Also, if you have a smaller budget, then ink-only or even pencil sketches are much more affordable because they're less labour intensive. I do try and add one new vehicle to the shop every month and I try and keep tabs on suggestions and things people would like to direct me on what to create as the prints are much more affordable for full colour, even if it's not exactly your car. Too many cars, not enough time, that's my problem! UltraWomble, Felly Magic and eddyramrod 3
vulgalour Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 Got an early start for once today so I've completed all of the artwork for this project now. I've just got to wait for the ink to finish drying and then I can do the processing and stuff to get this rolling properly. Pretty difficult to photograph all seven together with just my little phone camera. Uncle Jimmy and Craig the Princess 2
vulgalour Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 The print is now live: https://www.redbubble.com/people/angylroper/works/32467920-pride-2018?asc=u Profits from ANY of the printed items featuring this design will go to www.northern-pride.com and at Shep's suggestion, I've poked the GCCG about this too. It has been a lot of work to get it done in a fairly short time but hopefully it's worth it. eddyramrod, Shep Shepherd, Noel Tidybeard and 2 others 5
vulgalour Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 Copyright, trademarks, etc. and the infringement thereof have led to an encounter with a large automotive company. I'm not in any trouble, and I'd like to keep it that way, but now I'm a little confused about the legalities of produced car artwork. It was my understanding that a totally original artwork of an already existing product - be that a Ford Ranger, or a can of Campbells soup - was permitted and that reproduction of the same even for profit was not a problem, especially so if that item was no longer in production. However, it appears it gets rather complicated and on trying to self-educate about copyright law I'm more confused than when I began. For the time being, that means car artwork for profit is on hold until I can clarify this. I do not want to be doing anything illegally accidentally. The prints in my shop shall remain where they are for the time being as even though this is where the problem has arisen, there's no point admitting guilt if I don't know that I'm guilty of anything, especially since it's only one company that's got an issue with my work so far. I'll be visiting Citizen's Advice Bureau to get some clarification if possible, or at least some direction, but it seems this particular angle is specific and messy. If it proves too difficult to keep things on the right side of the law I will stop producing car artwork for profit. It would be a shame if it came to that, and it probably won't, but I want to keep everything above board. I'm too small to fight any sort of corner on this and it's not the main portion of my income, so I can (grudgingly) afford to let it go if I have to and focus on other aspects of my work.
New POD Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Copyright, trademarks, etc. and the infringement thereof have led to an encounter with a large automotive company. I'm not in any trouble, and I'd like to keep it that way, but now I'm a little confused about the legalities of produced car artwork. It was my understanding that a totally original artwork of an already existing product - be that a Ford Ranger, or a can of Campbells soup - was permitted and that reproduction of the same even for profit was not a problem, especially so if that item was no longer in production. However, it appears it gets rather complicated and on trying to self-educate about copyright law I'm more confused than when I began. For the time being, that means car artwork for profit is on hold until I can clarify this. I do not want to be doing anything illegally accidentally. The prints in my shop shall remain where they are for the time being as even though this is where the problem has arisen, there's no point admitting guilt if I don't know that I'm guilty of anything, especially since it's only one company that's got an issue with my work so far. I'll be visiting Citizen's Advice Bureau to get some clarification if possible, or at least some direction, but it seems this particular angle is specific and messy. If it proves too difficult to keep things on the right side of the law I will stop producing car artwork for profit. It would be a shame if it came to that, and it probably won't, but I want to keep everything above board. I'm too small to fight any sort of corner on this and it's not the main portion of my income, so I can (grudgingly) afford to let it go if I have to and focus on other aspects of my work.I am positive the CAB with be as much use as a chocolate tea pot. It's totally putt of their sphere of understanding. Unless you strike lucky amd one of the advisors is a retired silk who used to specialise in that stuff. As an aside my advice is to form a Ltd company. take a salary and run it at a technical loss. If sued, they can have the company. Note i am not a lawyer and can not offer a warranty on my ideas. And i ain't going to prison for you. Uncle Jimmy 1
New POD Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 When you've formed the company get professional indemnity insurance for it.
Dick Cheeseburger Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 That sounds like a world of woe, for the sake of a few car pictures.
Pillock Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 I agree that CAB, and any solicitors offering half an hour free, will have absolutely no idea about this. I haven't a clue who would though, unless you can tap into an artist network and see if anyone else has experienced this. My very, very vague understanding is that copies for parody or review are OK.
chaseracer Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Vulg: get some proper legal advice, not CAB. The position of the unnamed corporate entity would suggest that commercial photography of cars might be equally threatened, and I can't see that being the case. Interesting...
SiC Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Is it copyright infringement or design right infringement?
Felly Magic Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Bloody hell fire, this takes the mickey here Vulg, it's about right for a greedy automotive manufacturer
captain_70s Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Copyright, trademarks, etc. and the infringement thereof have led to an encounter with a large automotive company. I'm not in any trouble, and I'd like to keep it that way, but now I'm a little confused about the legalities of produced car artwork. It was my understanding that a totally original artwork of an already existing product - be that a Ford Ranger, or a can of Campbells soup - was permitted and that reproduction of the same even for profit was not a problem, especially so if that item was no longer in production. However, it appears it gets rather complicated and on trying to self-educate about copyright law I'm more confused than when I began. Could it be the use of a particular brand name that is the issue? While a drawing of a particular thing may be fine marketing it as it's brand name could cause a company some grumps, especially if it completes of one of their own branded products...
richardmorris Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 This seems a little odd as there are thousands of people using 2cvs and Citroen logos for commercial design products ( mugs, t shirts, toys, pens, etc etc ). Dick Cheeseburger 1
DodgeRover Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 It sounds ludicrous that you can not sell a picture of a car?It was always my belief that if it was made clear that it was not an official product then it wasn't a problem.Is it Land Rover who have contacted you? Christine 1
barefoot Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 If it's VW, just stop painting their cars, vans, buses & logo's, they're like twats. Uncle Jimmy 1
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