Buying this Honda isn't stupid is it?

[warren t claim]

............Mg zt 190+..... Tax september mot october, 90k, car in daily use... this ia a very reluctant sale but need an estate car for work.... first to see will buy this is a beautiful example of an mg zt.... All electric, remote centrel locking, power steering, climate control, half leather and fabric interia in black and blue, xneon light's, 18" alloy wheel's plus the things included with the car are just endless! A hell of alot of car for so little money!!! £550 o.v.n.o...........

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-moto ... /105087172

[Negative Creep]

WHUT? I can't believe how cheap these things are now

[Split_Pin]

I would totally love a car like this, but the impending timing belt requirement and 7 hour plus garage book time might make me think twice.

[skattrd]

Yes ... so do it

 

There's a post on the grumpy thread about changing a cambelt on the kv6. I assume thats what this has and at that price it probably needs it doing. I;d factor in the cost of cambelt/waterpump change if he hasn't got documentation that its been done.

[warren t claim]

I'm generally lucky with owning cars with a bad rep (I even survived having a Laguna II) but I'm thinking this might me pushing my luck a bit too far.

 

It is local and nicely within budget though. Great colour as well.

 

Must.......Resist........

[Split_Pin]

I've been mulling over a 75 for the past few weeks and I thought if I could get one cheap due to needing head work, a clutch or timing belt, then factor in about 1200 for said work, I might end up with 5 years worth of waftage. Too much of a gamble for me just now though.

 

However for about 900 you could get one with good history, or so it seems from the ads I looked at.

[scaryoldcortina]

 

I'll just leave this here.

[warren t claim]

Does anyone here have any experience of KV6 powered Rover 75s?

[Albert Ross]

Yeah. It's possible to snap the ends off the cams when doing belts, also, they are prone to oil leaks from the head gasket corners. Just buy the V8 one instead. You know it makes less sense.

[Spiny Norman]

At that price I'd just have it and worry about the cambelt when I heard the bang.

[warren t claim]

I think I might just buy a sensible 106 diesel instead. That cambelt looks like a total bitch tbh.

 

I'll still give him a ring tomorrow and see if it's been done and he hasn't mentioned it in his ad, if he hasn't I might offer him a stupid low bid and see what happens. If I get it for say, £450ish and it goes pop in october or fails its test miserably I have the facilities to break it and weigh the rest in for a couple of hundred. Knock off the £70 odd worth of tax on it then I'll only stand to lose maybe a tenner a week. Is that too great a price to pay? If work slows down then I still have a 50mpg 106 to run around in.

 

I'm talking myself into this aren't I?

[warren t claim]

Frankly due to the high price of scrap and the fact it's taxed and tested I'm not exactly gambling with more money than I can afford to lose. Even as it stands it's worth about £230 over the bridge and the tax is worth £70.

 

FFS! Help me out here guys!

[AeroNautiCal]

I'd buy it for that gorgeous colour alone, irrespective of the comfy, well appointed seat and all the driver's toys.

 

At that price, it's a gift!

 

Do it...

[Cavcraft]

[Micrashed]

At that price I'd just have it and worry about the cambelt when I heard the bang.

 

^^^^

WHS.

 

Buy it, run it, punt it on (if you are lucky) or scrap it.

Break it for bits yourself an make a few more quid than you would get over the bridge.

[Split_Pin]

Being sensible with a diesel just isn't fun, but if I was going to gamble and then scrap if it goes bang, I think it want to spend a lot less on say, and old Sierra, Citroën Xantia, or perhaps an older Rover like an 800 4 pot.

[messerschmitt owner]

find a 'troublesome when new' car that's been in a garage for half a decade, pull it out and send it for an MoT, having only washed it and blown up the tyres - that's the shiter way!

[dollywobbler]

Have you bought it yet? Seems great!

[Split_Pin]

Any updates on this as yet?

[cort16]

Get it bought man. That's so much car for the money.

[messerschmitt owner]

what's the worst that can happen - £200 over the bridge after flogging a couple of hundred pounds worth of parts! Get it bought.

[Split_Pin]

Mis fuel it then scrap it, starting a huge Facebook row in the process

[Ross_K]

I normally detest Rovers, but for that money you can't go wrong. Drive it everywhere at 110%, and get it weighed in when the timing belt snaps.

[freebird]

I bought one of these new ( well a 4 months old dealer demonstrator) back in 2002 ( ish)

I thought it was a brilliant car, fantastic performance, handling that was amazing for its size and, at that time, there wasnt too much about that had its sheer presence on the road. I used to just take it out of an evening and blat it around some of the great roads of Norfolk just for the sheer pleasure of driving it. I can honestly say, precious few of the cars ive owned have made me WANT to drive them for fun. It was just as comfortable pootling to Tescos as it was on the Motorway BUT what it did better than anything was cross country at an alarming rate, if you wanted it to.

I have no idea about cam belt issues and the like but, seriously, for that kind of money buy it, drive the bollocks out of it and if it all goes bang either blag another second hand lump to drop in it ( doing said belts before you do) or flog it on e'bay as a spares or repairs jobbie.

Its horses for courses, maybe some people wouldnt love one as i loved mine but, for me, its a serious no brainer, really.

That KV6 is super sweet and having owned a 2.5V6 75 ( I traded it in for the MG) I cant be too critical of what the engine can do.

MG Rover did an amazing job of turning the 75 into the ZT, they really are two completely different cars, their behaviour is chalk and cheese.

Edit: My one cost £16000+

That car is a fucking bargain fella, thats depreciation for you...

[AnthonyG]

Just Buy it!

 

If you really like it, then you will want to invest in a cambelt change. Keep an eye on the coolant levels but the KV6s don't have the OMG HGF problems of the 1.8.

[Cavcraft]

I *think* he's got some 'non-MG but something equally as bad/if not worse' news on the horizon.

[boobydoo]

I do think these 75s are absolute bargains at the moment. We take quite a few in p-ex and they're worth buttons. No-one wants them. Just sold a mint, 02 plate, one owner 60,000 mile Connoisseur in pale green metallic in the trade for £600.

[RoadworkUK]

Come on everybody! If my Dad and I can do a KV6 timing belt with home-made tools, any cretin can do it!

 

Get one bought for chrissakes, and savour that exhaust note.

[Pillock]

Buy it and cross your fingers every time you start the engine. Cambelt intervals are for PUSSIES (well, they are at that price vs weighbridge profit).

I'm quite tempted by a cheap MG as a runaround, seems the mainstream media did their bit during the Rover mess and convinced the car buying public that parts will not be available.... because, obviously, MG Rover make every single part themselves and never buy anything in. Perhaps in a couple of years I'll pick up a Saab for 25p for exactly the same reason.

[warren t claim]

Right, here's a bit of an update. I rang the vendor and it turns out that he'd just taken a small deposit on it. Also he'd only had the cambelt changed 4000 miles ago....... ARSE!!!! I left my number but it seems I shouldn't of hesitated.....

 

Moving swiftly on I went to look at this...

Taxed and tested for £300 as he said the engine is a bit smoky in the morning for a few minutes. Well worth a look I thinks so I hot foot it over to Belle Vale in Liverpool to snap it up. Upon meeting the vendor in his local to pick him up myself and MM5 are told the tale of how he went on swapz and exchanged it for his Vectra GSi. He'd only had it a couple of days but when he started it up this morning it started smoking a bit so he just wanted to cut his losses and start again. Admittedly it did start easily enough and did smoke a bit as he described so undeterred both MM5 and myself hopped in to give it a decent test drive.

 

We made it about a mile down the road before it died! The cretin had run it so low on fuel that he'd killed the fuel pump! I rang him and he bought a whole fivers worth of unleaded and splashed some of it in the tank. After making sure that the isolator switch hadn't tripped we were forced to slap the tank to try and free the pump up a bit. This seemed to work but when it started the amount of oil smoke pouring out of the exhaust had to be seen to be believed! I've seen a Laguna dci shit itself on the M6 and this was almost as bad! Somewhat unsurprisingly the poor Alfa died again in about 5 mins and we made our excuses and left. The guy selling the alfa had clearly thrashed the tits off it from cold and had managed to destroy it in a couple of days. In many ways it's a shame to see it scrapped as it did drive well with a quiet engine and the body and interior are first class. Never mind. Back to the drawing board!