If there was a new classic car mag

[saabhappy]

I'd like it to have sections where cars from 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s are collected together, with obvious scope for cross-overs, I'd like there to be in-depth articles about one car from each decade per issue rather than group tests of "Cars That Happen To Be French", I'd like the technical stuff in a separate section and have one job each month that somebody with more enthusiasm than ability could tackle sucessfully, and one job tackled by an expert. I'd like thought-provoking articles by writers like the wondrous Buckley, the late Russell Bulgin and quality motoring writers. In the rest of the mag I don't want to hear about how funny/small/hairy/alcoholic/homosexual/priapic/musical the journos are, just the cars please. Personally I'd prefer it if the mag only featured one "supercar/legend" per issue and wasn't concerned with cars only 0.1% of the readership would ever ride in. On-going debates in the "Letters" section, and no letters saying how wonderful the mag is "and keep up the good work guys!" No dealer would be allowed to advertise cars without prices and the date the car was on sale, much more attention would be paid to internet forums and the issues they were raising. No stereotypes of owners, no contrived pieces where journalists dress up and go on a jolly, and no articles that are travelogues and not about cars.I'd pay a fiver for a mag like that, because I wouldn't need any of the others.

[Rocket88]

I'd buy it........

[Father Ted]

I would rather like it to be like:-

with some articles on twatting broken engines, lobbing mud into rusty holes and "cold" welding techniques thrown in for good measure.

[dieselnutjob]

and they need to complain like hell about the "historic" status getting frozen at 1972.My 604 is 35 years old and there are hardly any left for goodness sake!and there's an election coming uphow many classic car fans are there in the UK? if the outcome is tight are there enough of us to make a difference?The current mags are just not doing enough about this

[ashmicro]

I'd buy it........

+1. There's loads of petrolheads round here, it'd sell well.

[Milford Cubicle]

I'd like to see less immaculately/expensively restored cars featured, and more lightly haggard daily drivers.It'd be fun to have a broad 'cheap car' mag like Jalopy, their cut off was about 10 years old - not giving a fugg about potential cla""ic status.There are swathes of cars, especially from the 1980s and 1990s that don't have any magazine recognition at all.

[warren t claim]

If you put a restored Stag on the cover I'll buy it! Only joking!

[Parky]

Yeah, no MGB's, or Minors, or Stags. Respect due and all that, its just very easy to access that sort of info. I would love something reviewing the once popular and now much much less so. Renault 14's, Datsun 180B's, hell I wouldnt even mind seeing a bog standard Mk2 Escort reviewed.

[dollywobbler]

I'd love to edit a mag full of wacky ol' shite in the style of some of the famous fore-runners but it just isn't practical I fear. You need advertisers and sadly that means that you do need to feature 'common' much loved cars to survive. Not every issue mind!The alternative would be to ramp up the cover price, but then no-one would buy it.

[r.welfare]

Board member Peter had a really good go at doing a modern Jalopy with Original Tin, but it lost a fair bit of money for him - for the reasons Dollywobbler describes!

[dollywobbler]

Board member Peter had a really good go at doing a modern Jalopy with Original Tin, but it lost a fair bit of money for him - for the reasons Dollywobbler describes!

Indeed! Was the greatest, most short-lived title ever. Probably.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

it'd sell well.

It would not.

[Father Ted]

it'd sell well.

It would not.

Perhaps an Interweb version (with clicky adverts to pay for bandwidth) is the way to go with this idea then?

[dollywobbler]

I think so FT. I imagine just equipping this site with some blogs would generate some essential reading. I mean, Mr Bollox's shed thread on Retro-Rides has a massive following. Plus, you can still take your laptop to the kazi, and it keeps your legs warm while you read.

[Pete-M]

I'd be happy to write some shite for that.

[Father Ted]

I think I still have the bilge I penned for OT and Joypal somewhere on one of the HDD's. I think some of its PDF though so will have to convert it back...

[warren t claim]

So that's settled then! Internet it is! Pistonheads do ok out of a web based format so there is no reason it can't work for Jalopy 2010.

[eggy]

I think it should be a great thing if its any thing like OT. Id like to offer my services but im not the most articulate so it may take a while for articales,could always get a ghost writer i suppose

[Justin Case]

I'd like to see less immaculately/expensively restored cars featured, and more lightly haggard daily drivers.It'd be fun to have a broad 'cheap car' mag like Jalopy, their cut off was about 10 years old - not giving a fugg about potential cla""ic status.There are swathes of cars, especially from the 1980s and 1990s that don't have any magazine recognition at all.

I'll add my support to that, but to also include the 'futureshite' about 10 years old. The one-make mags for BMW, Mercedes etc cover their own models quite well, but there is a lack of anything more general. Surely there are enough potential buyers with interesting cars, and not just tuned ones, around to keep even the advertisers happy

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

I think I still have the bilge I penned for OT and Joypal somewhere on one of the HDD's. I think some of its PDF though so will have to convert it back...

Please don't republish the stuff you sold to me yet, as crappy a businessman as I am, I do have OT3 pretty much print ready. I just have to pull the trigger. Google have given me an ad voucher, I was thinking of frittering it away shifting some back issues and putting the money towards another issue. Tell you what, if I haven't published another issue by the end of April, you can sell/distribute your OT content.

[Minimad5]

Yeah i am up for writing a little something for the Online article too Would it be possible to have it online, and a printable PDF version (for anyone who wanted an actual magazine to take with them)You could even use most of the pictures from here.And any hints or tips you find in a thread can be put in to it too.Possibly even a restoration section ? I get too excited

[RedSparrow]

Sounds like a nice idea.Why don't people who want to, write articles, upload them to a file sharing thing and link them on here?

[Minimad5]

^ WHS !

[Des]

How about denying the existence of MGBs, completely blank them, never heard of them, in if one parks on your foot you don't even acknowledge it and just wait for it to go kind of a way. MGB? No such thing mate. They're a myth, like dragons, unicorns, man made climate change, honest MPs etc.

[Pete-M]

How about denying the existence of MGBs, completely blank them, never heard of them, in if one parks on your foot you don't even acknowledge it and just wait for it to go kind of a way. MGB? No such thing mate. They're a myth, like dragons, unicorns, man made climate change, honest MPs etc.

Music to my ears, that.

[Guest]

How about denying the existence of MGBs, completely blank them, never heard of them, in if one parks on your foot you don't even acknowledge it and just wait for it to go kind of a way. MGB? No such thing mate. They're a myth, like dragons, unicorns, man made climate change, honest MPs etc.

Music to my ears, that.

The grey steel wheel'd one that Hudsonpie spotted would be allowed, surely?Just no dry bumming of:1. Pinto engines2. VAG products (yeah, you fucking listening Retro Cars?)3. The Lamborghini Miura (hey Classic Cars, lookin' at you here)4. 'Lifestyle' connotations (after all, we have the modern incarnation of CAR for that....)

[Pete-M]

Just no dry bumming of:1. Pinto engines2. VAG products (yeah, you fucking listening Retro Cars?)3. The Lamborghini Miura

Oh man, Pintos are great.Um, does previous ownership of at least five Golf GTis, two Polos and an Audi mean I've failed the test?Miuras? Oh goddamnit, that's the only reason for doing this! Can I warble on about the wonders of an Aston Martin Vantage (Oscar India, naturally) instead? I likes them.

[Guest]

Um, does previous ownership of at least five Golf GTis, two Polos and an Audi mean I've failed the test?

No, it doesn't. But gibbering on about them incessantly [Retro Cars], making most of your features skewed towards VAG stuff [Retro Cars] and featuring lifestyle gear all to do with things VAG [Retro Cars] does tend to boil my piss and make me think I should have just bought a VW mag instead. Except I don't want a VW mag [Retro Cars], I want an all marques magazine. It has been getting way better of late to be fair.Besides, you must have enough anecdotes to do a regular column Pete, your Escort Cosworth epic is one that needs to be on paper.Ironically, I sent an email to Retro Cars explaining my displeasure in a forthright and non expletive filled manner and got called 'narrow minded'.PPC has the basis of a great magazine, but to me it reads like an after school clique that you were never in on in the first place. A bit like the whole VAG scene really [Retro Cars].

[Pete-M]

Um, does previous ownership of at least five Golf GTis, two Polos and an Audi mean I've failed the test?

No, it doesn't. But gibbering on about them incessantly [Retro Cars], making most of your features skewed towards VAG stuff [Retro Cars] and featuring lifestyle gear all to do with things VAG [Retro Cars] does tend to boil my piss and make me think I should have just bought a VW mag instead. Except I don't want a VW mag [Retro Cars], I want an all marques magazine. It has been getting way better of late to be fair.

Easy peasy, I get bored of cars very quickly.

Besides, you must have enough anecdotes to do a regular column Pete, your Escort Cosworth epic is one that needs to be on paper.

Um, I may have signed a disclaimer with regards to that... it was worth it (and twas a Sapphire Cossie, not an Escort). I have got a slightly amusing EscCos tale or two though.

[Des]

Obviously there is always the risk of ongoing debates about whether a certain model is a classic or not.

To settle any arguments before they begin, please refer to the following.