1963 Mercedes Benz 190DC Fintail. On the road.

[Dyslexic Viking]

This was transported to the local garage today with a towtruck. They will start brake work on it tomorrow and have promised to lock it into the building tonight.

But since I'm involved, something has of course gone wrong. I have broken my rule again and assumed something, so I assumed that this one had 1 wheel cylinder per side at the front like normal cars. Well after it had been delivered, a bad feeling began to sink in and after some research it turns out that these have 2 wheel cylinders per side at the front.

2 more wheel cylinders are at least a week to get and will cost 300 pounds which I don't have. So have spoken to the local garage and they will see what they do.

I'm so madly annoyed with myself and this is going to last for quite a while. Now I had the opportunity to completely go over the brakes and gain confidence that they are good, but I of course messed this up.

I'm in a really bad mood right now.

[DirtyDaily]

This was transported to the local garage today with a towtruck. They will start brake work on it tomorrow and have promised to lock it into the building tonight.
But since I'm involved, something has of course gone wrong. I have broken my rule again and assumed something, so I assumed that this one had 1 wheel cylinder per side at the front like normal cars. Well after it had been delivered, a bad feeling began to sink in and after some research it turns out that these have 2 wheel cylinders per side at the front.
2 more wheel cylinders are at least a week to get and will cost 300 pounds which I don't have. So have spoken to the local garage and they will see what they do.
I'm so madly annoyed with myself and this is going to last for quite a while. Now I had the opportunity to completely go over the brakes and gain confidence that they are good, but I of course messed this up.
I'm in a really bad mood right now.

Sounds like you're being harsh on yourself. I know that feeling though and empathise. Just remember it'll get done but might just not be as soon as you'd of liked.
Hope it all gets sorted soon and you're out and about in it again.

[Dyslexic Viking]

I'm having a bad time period can't remember ever being in such a bad mood as I am most of the time now and over such a long period of time.

So this was the last thing I needed.

Can only hope everything else goes well tomorrow because I need that.

[loserone]

From here, you're doing a marvelous job and I'm very envious.

 

Such a cool car

[hairnet]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403331647790

id chip in

[Dyslexic Viking]

11 minutes ago, loserone said:

From here, you're doing a marvelous job and I'm very envious.

 

Such a cool car

Thanks, and is not fair that I am complaing I see this and should stop as I am lucky to own this. It's just a bit much at the moment.

Getting the car back on the road will probably help my head a lot.

[Dyslexic Viking]

5 minutes ago, hairnet said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403331647790

id chip in

No need for that, it will work out. But thanks.

[DirtyDaily]

Thanks, and is not fair that I am complaing I see this and should stop as I am lucky to own this. It's just a bit much at the moment.
Getting the car back on the road will probably help my head a lot.

100% but don't think you aren't allowed to feel like shit when stuff isn't going your way. Cars are testing and they beat you up at times but the moment you get back in and it's all sorted makes it all worth while.

[Dick Longbridge]

2 hours ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

This was transported to the local garage today with a towtruck. They will start brake work on it tomorrow and have promised to lock it into the building tonight.

But since I'm involved, something has of course gone wrong. I have broken my rule again and assumed something, so I assumed that this one had 1 wheel cylinder per side at the front like normal cars. Well after it had been delivered, a bad feeling began to sink in and after some research it turns out that these have 2 wheel cylinders per side at the front.

2 more wheel cylinders are at least a week to get and will cost 300 pounds which I don't have. So have spoken to the local garage and they will see what they do.

I'm so madly annoyed with myself and this is going to last for quite a while. Now I had the opportunity to completely go over the brakes and gain confidence that they are good, but I of course messed this up.

I'm in a really bad mood right now.

I'm assuming you're relatively young - in your 20s? Just remember, no matter what your car throws at you, you're infinitely cooler than your peers. Respect! 

[Dyslexic Viking]

4 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

I'm assuming you're relatively young - in your 20s? Just remember, no matter what your car throws at you, you're infinitely cooler than your peers. Respect! 

Thanks. And I am older than that, is above 30.

[320touring]

@Dyslexic Viking

 

My '59 Oxford has a similar setup with two cylinders each side at the front.

 

There is a good chance that at least 2 of the original cylinders may still be functional, so they will be able to make a full set from new and original.

[Shandylegs]

2 hours ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

No need for that, it will work out. But thanks.

You’ve already been doing a fantastic job bringing the car back into full use. While there may be no need, I (and I’m sure others too) would also be happy to throw a few pounds into the pot knowing it would be wisely spent to get the car back to fine health for next few years.

Anyone with experience in getting something like this up and running for Mr Viking?

[Dyslexic Viking]

7 minutes ago, 320touring said:

@Dyslexic Viking

 

My '59 Oxford has a similar setup with two cylinders each side at the front.

 

There is a good chance that at least 2 of the original cylinders may still be functional, so they will be able to make a full set from new and original.

Yes, this is entirely possible. The only thing I'm a little afraid of is that the seals in the old ones will fail and with the accompanying brake failure.

I don't know how likely this is as I have no experience with 1 circuit brakes and cars of this age. And if I can manage to pump enough brake pressure in such a case to stop.

[DirtyDaily]

I think just giving money probably wouldn't sit well with OP. Perhaps a roffle on something that's hanging around the house?

[somewhatfoolish]

12 minutes ago, 320touring said:

@Dyslexic Viking

 

My '59 Oxford has a similar setup with two cylinders each side at the front.

 

There is a good chance that at least 2 of the original cylinders may still be functional, so they will be able to make a full set from new and original.

Twin leading shoe drum brakes was fairly normal when drums all round was a thing.

[Dyslexic Viking]

6 minutes ago, Shandylegs said:

You’ve already been doing a fantastic job bringing the car back into full use. While there may be no need, I (and I’m sure others too) would also be happy to throw a few pounds into the pot knowing it would be wisely spent to get the car back to fine health for next few years.

Anyone with experience in getting something like this up and running for Mr Viking?

Thanks. And there is no necessity for something like this. I manage, it's just this first year in my ownership that has been tough. 

[Dyslexic Viking]

21 minutes ago, DirtyDaily said:

roffle on something that's hanging around the house?

I doubt that anyone here would be willing to participate in such a thing and there is no need. But it would have been fun to see the winner drive to Norway for the pile of broken Volvo parts and half a milk chocolate that he has won.

[hairnet]

6 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

I doubt that anyone here would be willing to participate in such a thing and there is no need. But it would have been fun to see the winner drive to Norway for a pile of broken Volvo parts and half a milk chocolate that he has won.

zetor

[juular]

8 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

pile of broken Volvo parts

Put the kettle on.

[Dyslexic Viking]

1 minute ago, hairnet said:

zetor

They don't belong to me. But would make an excellent colletion thread from the winner.

[DirtyDaily]

They don't belong to me. But would make an excellent colletion thread from the winner.

If I win I'll drive over in my new XJR

[Dyslexic Viking]

3 minutes ago, DirtyDaily said:

7 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

They don't belong to me. But would make an excellent colletion thread from the winner.

If I win I'll drive over in my new XJR

I'm very curious how you would intend to get a Zetor home with that.

[JMotor]

I understand your frustration. Seems so clear after the fact. Unfortunately it's completely normal to happen. Think we've all been there. I know I have and feel completely fucking stupid after just assuming something.

I can only hope the luck turns around soon. 

I've enjoyed this thread even with the setbacks.

[DirtyDaily]

I'm very curious how you would intend to get a Zetor home with that.

Illegally I think is the answer

[hairnet]

36 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

the pile of broken Volvo parts 

 

27 minutes ago, juular said:

Put the kettle on.

not the first sctsch who i thought might post something like that

 

[hairnet]

omg they sound like ours

the american sounds like a right light headed eejit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66804252

[artdjones]

2 hours ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

Yes, this is entirely possible. The only thing I'm a little afraid of is that the seals in the old ones will fail and with the accompanying brake failure.

I don't know how likely this is as I have no experience with 1 circuit brakes and cars of this age. And if I can manage to pump enough brake pressure in such a case to stop.

Can the garage (or you) get new seals on their own? Then they can hone the best cylinders. That would at least keep you going for a couple of years. 

Again, like the shoes, make sure you get all the old parts back.

Edit:- This company seem to stock the cup seal for less than €10 each, also the dust covers for a similar price.

You might also note that they sell linings for €35 each, 4 to a car =€ 140, so well worth holding on to those old shoes.

[DSdriver]

I was also going to ask the availability of the rubber parts for the cylinders, it used to be a common thing to replace them along with boiling brake shoes in a bowl of water to get rid of brake fluid contamination because the old ones has leaked.

[DodgeRover]

You should be able to get the old brake cylinders rebuilt for much less than the cost of new. If time allows of course. You might want to ask if the garage can save you the ones they take off so you could get them done for future use.

[dome]

Would it save you money if one of us bought the cylinders in the UK, took them out of the packet and posted them to you?