Wibble’s Wittering - Cortina, Senator & occasional Skoda & family ramblings, soz!

[mintwth]

23 hours ago, Wibble said:

feedback on value.

How about running it in to a dealer or 2 and asking what they'd give you for it as a part ex? 

The Autotrader sale valuations always say they're well above a quick sale or part ex price. Liquidators would likely value the car below part ex price (after all their aim is to convert assets to cash as quickly as possible). 

[Wibble]

11 minutes ago, mintwth said:

How about running it in to a dealer or 2 and asking what they'd give you for it as a part ex? 

The Autotrader sale valuations always say they're well above a quick sale or part ex price. Liquidators would likely value the car below part ex price (after all their aim is to convert assets to cash as quickly as possible). 

Dealer part ex values always depend on what you’re looking to buy. I need something in writing but your point is valid, thanks.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Get a WBAC valuation, then actually take it in for an appointment, they’ll be sure to kick you in the balls and offer 30-50% less than the initial offer.  These days they don’t ask for any condition info just base the price on ‘ Condition1’ then downgrade it for every stonechip or tiny scratch etc.

[High Jetter]

10 hours ago, Wibble said:

Have looked, it was 5 years older than mine and pre-facelift so not a helpful comparison unfortunately.

This is the one I was looking at, 15 reg like the one in your pic: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305509134557?itmmeta=01J2NSPHDS97EF8NN4BT8J9HNP&hash=item4721c370dd:g:OmMAAOSwf39mGigl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8AQqsztkYEG7koCFYx6pGtCKlkfm9iTcprz6h0kUfcP3QLeHKyzuPrXZj2L6AFX8YmwYJE1a0sG0h4CwTfsSQSaqz2teIp07IOykSqLXa2RS8bCe9kWmFRwqlAt3jwKREX7ewiZ%2Fa9%2FWnUp%2Bzwev0DqRuu8xewkmDQgkjMsG2O8ctlS1TBwTZyjNxwbPU1tdYVRQu8hAjubEnJDF51TOLsz1Mu5BAsr%2FwlMLvrzL7yOE%2BOoEuOvwqnXjKjkLEOhT7ZYgy%2F03tKDYCcBhPEP4mM%2BfzwfaWt%2BDuKyCeJkHjBEBTN4CEq6ZuifFF7b8eRM2WA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_aW2rmVZA

[Wibble]

2 hours ago, High Jetter said:

This is the one I was looking at, 15 reg like the one in your pic: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305509134557?itmmeta=01J2NSPHDS97EF8NN4BT8J9HNP&hash=item4721c370dd:g:OmMAAOSwf39mGigl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8AQqsztkYEG7koCFYx6pGtCKlkfm9iTcprz6h0kUfcP3QLeHKyzuPrXZj2L6AFX8YmwYJE1a0sG0h4CwTfsSQSaqz2teIp07IOykSqLXa2RS8bCe9kWmFRwqlAt3jwKREX7ewiZ%2Fa9%2FWnUp%2Bzwev0DqRuu8xewkmDQgkjMsG2O8ctlS1TBwTZyjNxwbPU1tdYVRQu8hAjubEnJDF51TOLsz1Mu5BAsr%2FwlMLvrzL7yOE%2BOoEuOvwqnXjKjkLEOhT7ZYgy%2F03tKDYCcBhPEP4mM%2BfzwfaWt%2BDuKyCeJkHjBEBTN4CEq6ZuifFF7b8eRM2WA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_aW2rmVZA

Er, that’s an Octavia, mine’s a Superb but thanks anyway.

[High Jetter]

42 minutes ago, Wibble said:

Er, that’s an Octavia, mine’s a Superb but thanks anyway.

Sorry, didn't notice - I'd searched for Superb estates and didn't check the listings that ebay returned for such an obvious exchange.

[r.welfare]

Slightly different circumstances but when my previous employers wanted to get rid of the last company car on their books (which spent 95% of its life in a city centre car park costing ££££s annually), I went the NorfolkNWeigh route and did a WBAC after noting all the body damage.  

I didn’t go down the route of getting a physical appraisal as in those pre-covid days there seemed to be fewer locations (and I and my employer were mutually happy with the on-screen price), whereas I can think of at least two supermarkets in town that have them in the corner of the car park now; if you do your weekly shop there why not kill two birds with one stone?

[Wibble]

2 hours ago, r.welfare said:

Slightly different circumstances but when my previous employers wanted to get rid of the last company car on their books (which spent 95% of its life in a city centre car park costing ££££s annually), I went the NorfolkNWeigh route and did a WBAC after noting all the body damage.  

I didn’t go down the route of getting a physical appraisal as in those pre-covid days there seemed to be fewer locations (and I and my employer were mutually happy with the on-screen price), whereas I can think of at least two supermarkets in town that have them in the corner of the car park now; if you do your weekly shop there why not kill two birds with one stone?

Actually, that’s a really good idea, thanks! Local Tesco have a WBAC pod. Will make sure to drop by and see if they’ll do an on the spot valuation, cheers!

[Wibble]

17 hours ago, NorfolkNWeigh said:

Get a WBAC valuation, then actually take it in for an appointment, they’ll be sure to kick you in the balls and offer 30-50% less than the initial offer.  These days they don’t ask for any condition info just base the price on ‘ Condition1’ then downgrade it for every stonechip or tiny scratch etc.

Sorry, I wasn’t thinking straight but you’re right, I think this is the best way of getting the lowest price. Sold my late mother’s car this way and your description is accurate 👍

[High Jetter]

Maybe Motorway too, to show due diligence?

[Wibble]

47 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

Maybe Motorway too, to show due diligence?

I tried Motorway with my Mum’s car and they are over optimistic with their initial price and then bombard you with emails suggesting you lower the asking price, that they came up with in the first place.

[Wibble]

I’ve committed to meeting up with @Peter C and @egg to get a Cortina, Sierra and Mondeo together for some photos, so I really need to pull my finger out and get my cars back on the road.

Unfortunately my injured arms are proving to be a massive annoyance but I did give the Cortina a once over and fired it up, for the first time since last October. Used a booster to help the mechanical pump draw the fuel up and she started pretty easily.

My colleague (for now) has kindly offered to help with some of the car's issues, clutch cable for one, so hopefully I’ll have it back in rude health soon.

Said colleague is a current lurker and I’m really hoping he joins up and gets approved quickly. Come on Jon, you know you want to!😁

[Wibble]

I still haven’t spent any time on my cars but have been looking at a colleague’s daughter’s 2010 1.0l Corsa that won’t start off the key. Detailed in the ask a shiter thread.

Myself and a colleague have spent a lot of time checking earths, resistance , continuity etc and the family don’t want us wasting anymore time on it and don’t want to spend anymore money on it. 
 

They’ve decided to scrap it, aided by their daughter scraping the entire near side down a wall, quite heavily.

Anyway, our MD asked me to go with my colleague to look at a car today to replace it. She rang about a Hyundai i30 but it was sold. She was ent details of a Fiesta 1.0 eco boom and I said no. She then asked me to take her to look at a Suzuki Alto 2012, I took her.

Big site, lots of cars, what a miserable thing it was. Looked around, lots of history checks done and she drove away in this:

1.25 Zetec, 109k with replacement engine at 47k. Dealer hadn’t spotted that in the history and was surprised. It’s in amazing condition, drives great and I hope I haven’t sanctioned a duffer. A 40 minute drive back to the office and she said it drives lovely🤞

Feel free to tell me I’ve fucked up but it really is in amazing condition with matching new Toyo tyres all round.

[danthecapriman]

Good buy imho. 
The Eco-Boom is a pile of crap and definitely best avoided. 1.25 is a brilliant little engine. My mum has one (66 plate) and it’s been absolutely faultless so far, my sister also has one! (13 plate) which has been a good car too.

When my mum was looking for a car I told her to avoid the Eco-Boom and, although it’s quite old now, the 1.25 Zetec is a pretty solid little engine. 
To be honest, if your after a small car that’s easy to drive and cheap to run these Fiesta’s are probably about one of the best bets.

[Wibble]

5 minutes ago, danthecapriman said:

Good buy imho. 
The Eco-Boom is a pile of crap and definitely best avoided. 1.25 is a brilliant little engine. My mum has one (66 plate) and it’s been absolutely faultless so far, my sister also has one! (13 plate) which has been a good car too.

When my mum was looking for a car I told her to avoid the Eco-Boom and, although it’s quite old now, the 1.25 Zetec is a pretty solid little engine. 
To be honest, if your after a small car that’s easy to drive and cheap to run these Fiesta’s are probably about one of the best bets.

Thanks Dan, that was my thinking. She has assured me she is well aware that an old car can be fine one minute and dead the next and won’t be blaming me. It really is in astonishingly good condition though. 
I know the rear beams can rot out on these but there’s no mention of corrosion problems on the MOT history.

[danthecapriman]

10 hours ago, Wibble said:

Thanks Dan, that was my thinking. She has assured me she is well aware that an old car can be fine one minute and dead the next and won’t be blaming me. It really is in astonishingly good condition though. 
I know the rear beams can rot out on these but there’s no mention of corrosion problems on the MOT history.

I don’t think there’s really many issues with the Fiesta of that generation other than the usual ‘older car stuff’ that affects anything. 
The older generation ones had a few issues but I don’t think any were caused by the Zetec engines.

Only thing really on that particular car would be the cam belt. 100K miles or 10 years I think is the interval, but it’s probably been done by now. My sisters one was changed last year and had the water pump done at the same time, luckily as it turned out it was leaking once everything was stripped down.

[Wibble]

On 15/08/2024 at 09:51, danthecapriman said:

I don’t think there’s really many issues with the Fiesta of that generation other than the usual ‘older car stuff’ that affects anything. 
The older generation ones had a few issues but I don’t think any were caused by the Zetec engines.

Only thing really on that particular car would be the cam belt. 100K miles or 10 years I think is the interval, but it’s probably been done by now. My sisters one was changed last year and had the water pump done at the same time, luckily as it turned out it was leaking once everything was stripped down.

Cheers Dan, I did suggest she do this as, with engine replaced in 2014, it is now due and there is no evidence of it having been done. It will also need discs & pads soon and had to order a boot latch, as it’s throwing up false boot open warnings. Oil and coolant are clearly fresh though, so it has been cared for.

[Wibble]

On 08/08/2022 at 00:24, Wibble said:

Well Wiblet junior wanted to make film so here it is:

Thanks to @Mrs6Cfor helping.

Youngest asked me to  repost this

[Wibble]

Replaced the boot latch on the Fiesta today, which has sorted the erroneous boot open warnings.

However, the bloody daughter has crashed it already! I couldn’t fucking believe it when I was told by her tearful mum this morning. Once again, she’s fucked the near side, exactly as she did to the Corsa. Unbelievable. 

 

Obviously not my car and not my problem but it’s really pissed me off.

[somewhatfoolish]

Some people shouldn't have a driving licence.

[danthecapriman]

How the heck do people manage to do this to their cars!? Are they just that inattentive and sloppy!?

Annoying thing is, it’s also often someone else’s car that gets mangled with theirs. 

[Wibble]

6 minutes ago, danthecapriman said:

How the heck do people manage to do this to their cars!? Are they just that inattentive and sloppy!?

Annoying thing is, it’s also often someone else’s car that gets mangled with theirs. 

I know, fortunately no other vehicle involved, another Ninja wall I believe, attacking in stealth mode.

I’ve suggested they make her claim off her insurance. Yes, I expect it will be deemed a total loss but they can retain the salvage and at least it goes some way to paying for the car. Punishment is higher premiums for her but she needs to learn.

[somewhatfoolish]

1 hour ago, danthecapriman said:

How the heck do people manage to do this to their cars!? Are they just that inattentive and sloppy!?

Annoying thing is, it’s also often someone else’s car that gets mangled with theirs. 

It's not even that; it's the fact she's done the same thing twice in close succession, demonstrating she lacks the basic human trait of learning from her own mistakes.

[mintwth]

2 minutes ago, somewhatfoolish said:

It's not even that; it's the fact she's done the same thing twice in close succession, demonstrating she lacks the basic human trait of learning from her own mistakes.

To misquote Douglas Adams:

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." 

[Snake Charmer]

54 minutes ago, Wibble said:

I know, fortunately no other vehicle involved, another Ninja wall I believe, attacking in stealth mode.

I’ve suggested they make her claim off her insurance. Yes, I expect it will be deemed a total loss but they can retain the salvage and at least it goes some way to paying for the car. Punishment is higher premiums for her but she needs to learn.

Read the policy before claiming. My stepson rear ended a nearly new BMW in his first car and his wee Polo would have been written off easily. I checked his Direct Line policy and in the event of a write off claim his policy would be cancelled. He would have been £3.5k out of pocket on a £1200 car by close of play.

[Wibble]

31 minutes ago, Snake Charmer said:

Read the policy before claiming. My stepson rear ended a nearly new BMW in his first car and his wee Polo would have been written off easily. I checked his Direct Line policy and in the event of a write off claim his policy would be cancelled. He would have been £3.5k out of pocket on a £1200 car by close of play.

Fair comment, thanks, I’ll make sure they do because, you’re correct, if they pay out a total loss, they’ll deduct the years premium for the policy from the settlement. Won’t be a problem to insure it again though but will cost her more. Some insurers might request a new MOT but generally are fine with what will be an CAT N or S marker. They wouldn’t pay retail value if it was written off again though. I have also suggested they get a quote to repair, from a body shop we know, just to help decide what’s best.

[wesacosa]

or just leave it. No other car involved and sounds like it could well get banged again so maybe just save the money/insurance claim and live with it?

[Wibble]

2 hours ago, wesacosa said:

or just leave it. No other car involved and sounds like it could well get banged again so maybe just save the money/insurance claim and live with it

This is the most likely outcome.

[Wibble]

Some of you will know that I’m going to buy my company car off work, as the business is being wound up.

Ive just realised that this is the first “modern” car I’ve bought for myself since I bought the Senator and the Senator was three years newer at the time!

 

[Garythesnail]

13 hours ago, Wibble said:

this is the first “modern” car I’ve bought

A big part of why I lurk around Autoshite. Few others would consider a 9 year old, previous generation model, 'modern' 🙂