The grumpy thread

[autofive]

OK. I'm now posting from the worst laptop in the world as my computer is now getting royally skull fucked by a trojan called Ramnit-B \ VBSEXEdropper.

 

About 45 minutes ago avast started going ape shit and quarantining 50 attacks a minute. I cannot install anything else because the little cunt keeps blocking me. Can't install spybot, superspyware remover or anything like that.

If this little bastard destroys my computer I will hunt down the arsehole responsible, fire a crossbow bolt through his bollocks and stamp on his head repeatedly until nothing is left.

 

I do not need this.

 

if you want to save your personal stuff (pictures / docs / video etc) then put the HDD into another PC is a slave, then transfer all the stuff before formatting the disc

 

In my previous experience trojans hide in your windows start button, and are almost impossible to remove, and keep the drive intact, but run the drive as a slave and windows doesnt function

[scaryoldcortina]

If this little bastard destroys my computer I will hunt down the arsehole responsible, fire a crossbow bolt through his bollocks and stamp on his head repeatedly until nothing is left.

 

you are looking for this man

[autofive]

lol

[Richard]

You can install the cleaning software on another computer and fit the infected drive as a slave, I've had to do that before.

[Station]

Can't you run in safe mode? I think the virus even disables that. And these things are mostly done for a laugh.

 

Have this! It doesn't install as an exe but a script so the virus doesn't suspect anything.

 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic351188.html

 

If it's any solace, one person write a virus that was pandemic got about 7 years in prison. I can imagine you're close to ripping your hair out over this!

[Guest]

Can't you run in safe mode? I think the virus even disables that. And these things are mostly done for a laugh.

 

Have this! It doesn't install as an exe but a script so the virus doesn't suspect anything.

 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic351188.html

 

If it's any solace, one person write a virus that was pandemic got about 7 years in prison. I can imagine you're close to ripping your hair out over this!

 

After a lot of dicking around, I've managed to get SuperAntiSpyWare running in safe mode. So far I have one trojan, 6 hijacked DNS trojans and 510 malware cookies.

 

And it's been running for 8 minutes.

 

Shit the bed!

[Lord Sterling]

That happend to me before a few weeks ago. Some bastard Trojan Spyware posing as an Anti-Spyware program, I couldnt do or open anything up, my Internet was rendered useless aswell.

 

I thought it was the end and looking at spending £££'s getting it fixed, but somehow I managed to get it into safe mode, got some info about the bastard file and where it could be running from, searched for the the most obvious and important file where the Spyware would be running from and deleted it. Thankfully I did the trick and stopped the attack, I was also able to carry on and run the computer in normal as normal.

 

Once I was able to get back onto the Internet I downloaded and ran a few proper Spyware Doctor (Unfortunately this was a premium version where I couldnt delete the Bots/Trojans, but it did give me the path of every Bot/Trojan it found and I was able to delete them manually) plus a few other spyware progammes and deleted/changed any remaining files in the registry editor (NOT recommended unless you really know exactly what you are looking for or you could render your computer useless. ALWAYS seek advice and know exactly what you are looking for and where it is located before making ANY changes to the Registry Editor)

 

As has been said before, a more simple option would be to remove your Hard Drive, refit to another computer as a Slave Drive and either take all your important pics/vids/files etc... refit to infected computer and reinstall Windows.

 

I just want to add, I am no computer expert.

[Station]

On a similar subject - I went in the freezer to get some food out and found a hard drive I'd put in about two months ago and forgot about (freezing for 10 minutes is meant to free up stuck mechanism). Arses!

[Negative Creep]

Banks that are open 9-4:30 Monday to Friday. When you work 8:30-5:30 Monday to Friday and have a large amount of cash you need to deposit it really comes in handy

[Mr_Bo11ox]

^^ That drives me mental. Peterbrough HSBC has a big lobby area full of machines so you can supposedly pay money in out of hours, but they shut it at 4.30pm with the rest of the bank. I rang them up to ask where round the east anglia area I could pay money in out of hours, and after much pissing about they said 'seems like the answer is 'nowhere' i'm afraid sir, is there anything else I can help you with?' FUCKERS

[Richard]

Until the late 1980s banks used to be open from 9:30-3:00, and more people were paid by cash/cheque then so they did need to get to the bank.

[M'coli]

TSB used to be open until 6 or half 6 one night a week in Dumbarton, Huntingdon and St. Neots to name a few up until 1999. They then stopped this convenient-for-me practice, so I asked why and received "We are now open on a Saturday morning which is more convenient for you". That's my fucking leisure time you knobs, I don't want to be trolling around a shit-hole town centre on a Saturday morning doing my banking, I want to be off enjoying myself!! I believe it was the influence of Lloyds, they took a nice wee bank, stripped out its good parts and left us with their shit.

[myglaren]

TSB used to be open until 6 or half 6 one night a week in Dumbarton, Huntingdon and St. Neots to name a few up until 1999. They then stopped this convenient-for-me practice, so I asked why and received "We are now open on a Saturday morning which is more convenient for you". That's my fucking leisure time you knobs, I don't want to be trolling around a shit-hole town centre on a Saturday morning doing my banking, I want to be off enjoying myself!! I believe it was the influence of Lloyds, they took a nice wee bank, stripped out its good parts and left us with their shit.

 

Well, judging from recent experience you certainly wouldn't want to be in Huntingdon on a Saturday morning - or any other time come to that

[Guest]

And the virus circus rumbles on.

 

Managed (I think) to get rid of VBSEXEDropper which seems to function by attacking the system as many times as it can. Managed to get SuperSpyWareRemover on it which appears to have deleted it.

 

Except Ramnit B is still there, and has decided to attack SuperSpyWareRemover and render it useless. Still can't install SpyBot, so I'm trying DrWeb Cure It in the hope that it will find Ramnit B before it infects anything else. Avast is on its third scan in 12 hours and still keeps finding viruses. Its done an admirable job of keeping the little bastards back, and I'd have been knackered without it.

 

Computer still functions, but it ain't going anywhere near the internet unless I know I've got this thing under control.

[dieselnutjob]

Just found out I'm going to loose about £2500 a year because I have three kids and I'm a high rate tax payer

My wife doesn't earn anything because she is looking after three kids and so we aren't exactly rich.

That really is a lot of money to loose in one hit.

[DCLane]

I'm the same - yes, I'm just over the 40% limit, so we'll be £1600 a year down.

 

I do think sometimes - "why do I bother?"

[ashmicro]

And the virus circus rumbles on.

 

Managed (I think) to get rid of VBSEXEDropper which seems to function by attacking the system as many times as it can. Managed to get SuperSpyWareRemover on it which appears to have deleted it.

 

Except Ramnit B is still there, and has decided to attack SuperSpyWareRemover and render it useless. Still can't install SpyBot, so I'm trying DrWeb Cure It in the hope that it will find Ramnit B before it infects anything else. Avast is on its third scan in 12 hours and still keeps finding viruses. Its done an admirable job of keeping the little bastards back, and I'd have been knackered without it.

 

Computer still functions, but it ain't going anywhere near the internet unless I know I've got this thing under control.

 

 

You may have tried this, and I think it was suggested by someone - restart the computer in safe mode, and choose safe mode with newtorking. Get on to Internet Explorer, and google malwarbytes anti-malware. Install it, update it, and run a full scan (takes ages). If, at any point in the install process you are asked to reboot, do so, but boot again into safe mode with networking.

 

EDIT TO ADD: When you start Internet Explorer, go to Tools>Internet Options>Advanced and press the Reset radio button. When the next screen pops up, place a tick in the box to delete personal settings, and then click the reset button.

[Cavcraft]

Just found out I'm going to loose about £2500 a year because I have three kids and I'm a high rate tax payer

My wife doesn't earn anything because she is looking after three kids and so we aren't exactly rich.

That really is a lot of money to loose in one hit.

 

Things will be even worse if Blue Boris has his way and tries to smash the unions I can assure you.

[whitevanman]

Not sure I'd entirely agree there, but I'd best not to say too much............

[Pete-M]

It'll be far, far worse if the cunts who caused all this shit from '97-10 ever get voted back in.

 

Unions are shite anyway. I understand the idea behind them "Lets stand up for poor Bob as he's been fired for a shite reason" but it never works like that so we're better off without 'em.

 

Good mate of mine is a train driver and a union rep for the train drivers. Now, he's earning well over £30k a year and he's always on holiday or having a few days off, yet he thinks he's hard done by and should have a wage rise every year without exception and more holidays. He also spends all his time complaining about "The rich" and how "People who earn lots of money should be taxed heavily" and how it's out of order that he's not getting a wage rise.

 

I have tried to point out to him that he's a single bloke with no kids who lives in a small flat and spends bugger all of the money he gets, and that I have to work rather a lot more hours for less money, and that the stuff I drive doesn't steer itself. I don't get 9 months off on full pay if someone chucks themselves in front of my car either.

 

Unions should be cut down to size, and then we need to round up all the Labour party MPs who voted for this 'war' in Afghanistan and pass them to the Taliban.

[dieselnutjob]

I work for a mobile phone company and have not had a pay rise for three years now, in fact no one in the company has.

People who work in the public sector seem to not realise what it's like for the rest of us.

[ashmicro]

I work for a mobile phone company and have not had a pay rise for three years now, in fact no one in the company has.

People who work in the public sector seem to not realise what it's like for the rest of us.

 

 

HARSH. When I was in the public sector, PRP was binned and we got 0.5% rise over 2 years. Of a wage that was shit to begin with.

 

That said, I'm glad I'm the fuck out of it. The public sector is too large. Trim it back to what it needs to be no quangos, simplify the quite horrendous complexity of Social Security Benefits, and then HMG can afford to pay people a living wage. A neighbour's son here packed in his job as an Admin Assistant in the DHSS to clear tables in a local restaurant for MORE money.

[whitevanman]

Well I'm now in the Public sector...and I don't get a wage rise, I ain't complaining, as at least I have a job of sorts for 6 months of the year....mind you having run my own businesses for years it's rather nice to get out of it to be honest, all that PAYE, Ni contibutions, Tax in advance on what they decide you will earn and what ever that last lot dream't up next to make small businesses pay more...so I guess some folk in the Public sector do know what it's like

[Guest]

Trying to get a part time job.

 

Everywhere I've called is utterly useless at getting back in touch, full of crap or talk up the most demeaning position as the hardest thing in the world and want the moon on a stick for fuck all money.

 

Halfords were the best. 'I've looked at your CV and I don't think you're suitable for the role' chief bullshit nobhead says. 'I've worked there before and I'm good friends with the previous two managers'. I reply. 'Well, everything's changed since you were last here' he gives it. Oh fucking pull the other one sunshine. If some semi literate grunting mong can get employed there, it's not the most difficult thing in the world to do is it?

 

So after grizzling on incessantly for about KPIs and upselling and dribble bollocks bling blah for 10 minutes, he then tells me the most hours I'd be able to get would be.......... 11 hours a week.

 

Wow. Just, wow. That's not worth getting out of bed for. And no, I am not going back to those arseholes at Vertex and getting treated like shit again.

 

Next!

[Cavcraft]

It'll be far, far worse if the cunts who caused all this shit from '97-10 ever get voted back in.

 

Unions are shite anyway. I understand the idea behind them "Lets stand up for poor Bob as he's been fired for a shite reason" but it never works like that so we're better off without 'em.

 

Good mate of mine is a train driver and a union rep for the train drivers. Now, he's earning well over £30k a year and he's always on holiday or having a few days off, yet he thinks he's hard done by and should have a wage rise every year without exception and more holidays. He also spends all his time complaining about "The rich" and how "People who earn lots of money should be taxed heavily" and how it's out of order that he's not getting a wage rise.

 

I have tried to point out to him that he's a single bloke with no kids who lives in a small flat and spends bugger all of the money he gets, and that I have to work rather a lot more hours for less money, and that the stuff I drive doesn't steer itself. I don't get 9 months off on full pay if someone chucks themselves in front of my car either.

 

Unions should be cut down to size, and then we need to round up all the Labour party MPs who voted for this 'war' in Afghanistan and pass them to the Taliban.

 

-1.

 

Not everyone in the union wants to strike over having eight seconds less toilet break time or not having expensive biscuits with their tea etc.

There is never, ever a hope in hell of being better off without unions, unless you're a boss/company owner/Conservative of course.

We'll see how this shower get on when they march on with cutting police and hospital workers before rounding on anyone else and the unions.

[dollywobbler]

If unions want to show that there's a point to them, they should sack Bob Crowe. A shining example of what's wrong with unions. Too much power grabbing, too little caring about the company actually surviving. The unions pretty much destroyed the British Motor industry (though to be fair, incompetent manager didn't help - but two wrongs didn't make a right) and now everyone bemoans the lack of a manufacturing industry here. Well, it's hardly surprising is it really? It's a lot less hassle to build cars elsewhere!

[trigger]

We have a union at work, I don't know much about them but they never seem to do much, Most the guys i know who have gone over from the plant side of things to the union have only done so for a easy life.

 

They do fight your corner when pay and working hours negotiations start abut always back down in the end.

 

As for pay rises, Mrs Triggers been working for the same big insurance company for over 5 years now and has had only one pay rise of about a 50p an hour since, Angrily shes only on £15500 when other people doing the same job who haven't as much experience as her are over £20k.

[Cavcraft]

No doubt the dark days of the union (BL etc) were just absolute madness. However any union or it's rep worth their salt these days wouldn't only ballot for a strike as a last resort.

The days of striking because the toilet roll isn't plush enough or because the company switched to a cheaper brand of tea are thankfully long gone.

 

I'd be willing to bet the union actually prevent more strikes than they cause these days and I firmly believe they (unions) are absolutely vital.

 

Especially with this lot in charge.

[Richard]

Unions are a bit like Political Correctness and Health & Safety- necessary and worthwhile but vulnerable to hijacking by people who either have their own agenda or are too stupid to understand the basic principles involved.

[dollywobbler]

Unions are a bit like Political Correctness and Health & Safety- necessary and worthwhile but vulnerable to hijacking by people who either have their own agenda or are too stupid to understand the basic principles involved.

 

I s'pose that sums it up. I'd never say 'do away with the unions entirely' but the problem is that they often get too extreme, using the slightest excuse as a reason to walk out because they HAVE to be seen to be on the workers' side or people wouldn't join up to them.