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Posted
2 hours ago, jim89 said:

Good old Stoke... 🙈

Said no-one ever

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Posted
12 minutes ago, UltraWomble said:

Well that was a proper rabbit hole I went down there

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Details, Details I need to know more 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, goosey said:

Details, Details I need to know more 

Most are after market, but one or two were made in house so it appears that there are variations of running gear.
The most common set up seems to be axles are Leyland/Austin (standard FR fit marked up as MoWoG, Morris Wolseley Garages.)


The low box ratio is 2.6:1 
As the transfer box is remote it means that engine & gearbox swaps are more straightforward with the Perkins prima being a popular choice, but most came with petrol donkeys.

The kingpin arrangement is similar to the land rover series 3. Ralco bush top joint and roller tapper lower, the ring and pinion ratios come from the Austin Gypsy.The 4WD Sherpa front Axle uses the same swivel pins, and housing as the Series 3 Land Rover, the ring and pinion ratios come from the Austin Gypsy
.Leyland Sherpa vans Ran on 14" wheels as standard. 15" were an option.

16" wheels from the Austin Westminster, FX4 taxi are a direct fit. 
A company called NAM did most conversions  which seem to fit most of the above narritive regarding parts, there are supposed to be some "in house" conversions that use all LR Series 3 running gear, from what I can see later models were all built to order by NAM but purchased through your local AR van dealership.

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1995 Celica Cabriolet - £cheap - needs fixing - no photos - Surrey : https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/233827-1995-celica-cabriolet/#goog_rewarded

2.0L black car in good to fair condition. Some minor rear wheel arch rust,

Leather trim ETS Power gearbox and undersealed

Runs on 3 cylinders requiring a new injector. I have four sourced with seals kit and new plugs. These are free with the car. (200 alone)

This is too good to scrap ( New hood 5 years ago)

I am disabled and need a high rider. So my dream car needs a new owner, not a scrapper.

Posted
5 hours ago, UltraWomble said:

Most are after market, but one or two were made in house so it appears that there are variations of running gear.
The most common set up seems to be axles are Leyland/Austin (standard FR fit marked up as MoWoG, Morris Wolseley Garages.)


The low box ratio is 2.6:1 
As the transfer box is remote it means that engine & gearbox swaps are more straightforward with the Perkins prima being a popular choice, but most came with petrol donkeys.

The kingpin arrangement is similar to the land rover series 3. Ralco bush top joint and roller tapper lower, the ring and pinion ratios come from the Austin Gypsy.The 4WD Sherpa front Axle uses the same swivel pins, and housing as the Series 3 Land Rover, the ring and pinion ratios come from the Austin Gypsy
.Leyland Sherpa vans Ran on 14" wheels as standard. 15" were an option.

16" wheels from the Austin Westminster, FX4 taxi are a direct fit. 
A company called NAM did most conversions  which seem to fit most of the above narritive regarding parts, there are supposed to be some "in house" conversions that use all LR Series 3 running gear, from what I can see later models were all built to order by NAM but purchased through your local AR van dealership.

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Thanks UW. 

What were the competition offering in terms of 4wd vans? 

ISTR a 4wd Transit, but probably not as capable as this Sherpa. 

Looked like BLARG had carved out a great niche with this, and the Freight Rover branding was perfect. 

What went wrong? 

Posted
15 minutes ago, grogee said:

Thanks UW. 

What were the competition offering in terms of 4wd vans? 

ISTR a 4wd Transit, but probably not as capable as this Sherpa. 

Looked like BLARG had carved out a great niche with this, and the Freight Rover branding was perfect. 

What went wrong? 

I know of the Transit County 4x4 made by County Tractors of Knighton in Powys on behalf of Ford Special Vehicle Operations,

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but there was also the Renault / Dodge 50 series 4x4 (much favoured by Norweb in the day)

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Mercedes did a Sprinter 4x4 though Im not sure how recent an addition that is to the line up...

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I suppose a lot of places just went with LR offerings though for most utility work where off road or inclement weather use was needed

 

 

Posted
12 hours ago, UltraWomble said:

Most are after market, but one or two were made in house so it appears that there are variations of running gear.
The most common set up seems to be axles are Leyland/Austin (standard FR fit marked up as MoWoG, Morris Wolseley Garages.)


The low box ratio is 2.6:1 
As the transfer box is remote it means that engine & gearbox swaps are more straightforward with the Perkins prima being a popular choice, but most came with petrol donkeys.

The kingpin arrangement is similar to the land rover series 3. Ralco bush top joint and roller tapper lower, the ring and pinion ratios come from the Austin Gypsy.The 4WD Sherpa front Axle uses the same swivel pins, and housing as the Series 3 Land Rover, the ring and pinion ratios come from the Austin Gypsy
.Leyland Sherpa vans Ran on 14" wheels as standard. 15" were an option.

16" wheels from the Austin Westminster, FX4 taxi are a direct fit. 
A company called NAM did most conversions  which seem to fit most of the above narritive regarding parts, there are supposed to be some "in house" conversions that use all LR Series 3 running gear, from what I can see later models were all built to order by NAM but purchased through your local AR van dealership.

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A guy used to do auto jumbles in a late poptop camper one in the 00s in midlands

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Posted
6 hours ago, grogee said:

Thanks UW. 

What were the competition offering in terms of 4wd vans? 

ISTR a 4wd Transit, but probably not as capable as this Sherpa. 

Looked like BLARG had carved out a great niche with this, and the Freight Rover branding was perfect. 

What went wrong? 

BL is the answer to what went wrong.

County transit started with MK2  in any configuration you wanted & continued will into this century, seen various over the years only ever seen the one Sherpa & a couple of Bedford CFs dunno who did those.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, sheffcortinacentre said:

BL is the answer to what went wrong.

County transit started with MK2  in any configuration you wanted & continued will into this century, seen various over the years only ever seen the one Sherpa & a couple of Bedford CFs dunno who did those.

Never seen a 4WD Sherpa but did see a lot of 4WD Transits back in the day - Old Bill and Forestry Commission liked 'em

Having said that - this brings back some Ser 2a/3 Landie vibes - even got the leaf springs in there?  Is there also a LR ladder chassis in there to hold it all together?

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