invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[JJ0063]

@LightBulbFunone thing I’ve never heard you talk about is a Sinclair C5. Surely the ideal city runabout for you? 
 

I happen to know the guy who runs the owners club and C5 depot if you want to get one as a practical daily driver….

[Sheefag]

28 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

if theres one thing about Invacars, is with regards to the general public they are just Like DeLorean's and Scimitars, you will get utterly inundated with questions and stupid statements..

Didn't Princess Anne have one of these?

[Dobloseven]

30 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

in that case what Red5 is going to need is this printed off, or displayed in large on one of those digital whiteboards

https://zelandeth.org/cars/ac-model-70/index.htm

https://zelandeth.org/cars/ac-model-70/FAQ/faq.htm

 

if theres one thing about Invacars, is with regards to the general public they are just Like DeLorean's and Scimitars, you will get utterly inundated with questions and stupid statements

so I hope is he ready for when the guided tour spots REV

I reckon he's painted it yellow and written Trotters Independent Training Services on it!See what I did there?

[High Jetter]

12 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

@LightBulbFunone thing I’ve never heard you talk about is a Sinclair C5. Surely the ideal city runabout for you? 
 

I happen to know the guy who runs the owners club and C5 depot if you want to get one as a practical daily driver….

Have you ever been on the road in one? Was scary, in the 80s. In Bexhill on Sea

[LightBulbFun]

22 minutes ago, Christine said:

Ooof   ,  that Dino is nice... eh ? 

is that what it is? I genuinely had to reverse google image search it to figure out what it was

I mean this Autoshite,  not really the forum for Ferrari's is it?

 

thats one thing I have noticed that I think some people even on here probably think a bit weird of me for, ill genuinely walk right past one of those green things to Oggle an ADO16 or something such, seeing a Morris Minor genuinely excites me far more then any super car does

case in point, this 205 I spotted some time back

when I saw it again and got really excited over seeing it a 2nd time, I completely failed to notice the Ford Mustang it was parked next to, it was only after the fact when I sent this picture to someone, and they pointed it out and i was like "Oh hah it is!"

 

21 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

@LightBulbFunone thing I’ve never heard you talk about is a Sinclair C5. Surely the ideal city runabout for you? 
 

I happen to know the guy who runs the owners club and C5 depot if you want to get one as a practical daily driver….

funnily enough I really love those from a purely nerd perspective I keep meaning to blag a go in @Zelandeth's one (he has very kindly offered), its just Zel does a good job of keeping it hidden somewhere so I always forget to ask about it, every time I do find myself at his place

but I dont think one would be physically compatible with me and my disabilities sadly in any long term use case, I still want one mind, but more as a case of to have a shelf and look longingly at  

however I think they are quite pricey these days?

18 minutes ago, Sheefag said:

Didn't Princess Anne have one of these?

No, but her mother did* 

7 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

Have you ever been on the road in one? Was scary, in the 80s. In Bexhill on Sea

[High Jetter]

Not quite!

[LightBulbFun]

@Datsuncog this is perhaps a bit of long shot, but you would not happen to know anything about this, or what became of it?  

its from "Ulster news letter Sunday July 14 1990" Page 11 under a section called the Roamer

(so I find it rather curious that it was Swansea that was contacted and not coleraine, although saying that of course theres a fair chance it would of originally been registered in Essex) 

 

it would of already been about 40 years old in that article, so I'd like to think it survives somewhere still  

 

I think its an Invacar Superdeluxe, although I do note its missing its usual engine cover-tin work that a Superdeluxe would of come with as seen on this example below

but perhaps it simply went missing over the years, or I do wonder if it was an up-fitted Invacar Model 12 or Model 19

[wesacosa]

On 24/01/2024 at 23:21, LightBulbFun said:

is that what it is? I genuinely had to reverse google image search it to figure out what it was

I mean this Autoshite,  not really the forum for Ferrari's is it?

 

thats one thing I have noticed that I think some people even on here probably think a bit weird of me for, ill genuinely walk right past one of those green things to Oggle an ADO16 or something such, seeing a Morris Minor genuinely excites me far more then any super car does

case in point, this 205 I spotted some time back

when I saw it again and got really excited over seeing it a 2nd time, I completely failed to notice the Ford Mustang it was parked next to, it was only after the fact when I sent this picture to someone, and they pointed it out and i was like "Oh hah it is!"

 

funnily enough I really love those from a purely nerd perspective I keep meaning to blag a go in @Zelandeth's one (he has very kindly offered), its just Zel does a good job of keeping it hidden somewhere so I always forget to ask about it, every time I do find myself at his place

but I dont think one would be physically compatible with me and my disabilities sadly in any long term use case, I still want one mind, but more as a case of to have a shelf and look longingly at  

however I think they are quite pricey these days?

 

 

 

Since Clive Sinclair died and then they were used in the Queen's Jubilee parade they have gone silly money, although they were already on the up due to the whole retro boom thing.  I bought a complete but in need of full rest one in 2020 for 220 I think, although that was a good deal at the time but would be lucky to get one now 

Although quite a few pop up in Belgium, Holland and Germany where you can get a minter for €300

 

[Zelandeth]

So that's where all the linked traffic from here on my site appeared from this morning then.

Having a quick scan through and catch up as this thread always moves too quickly for me to keep fully up to date with.

Regarding logistics of retrieving the Kangoo.  I know you pretty well, and know the issues you face with both mobility and sensory overload when going to places you don't know.  Stop trying to figure out how to get there to retrieve it.  I can absolutely vouch that @worldofceri will get it to your door for an extremely reasonable price.  Think I've had three cars delivered by them now.  Heck, if we weren't so busy next week I'd offer to just pick the thing up and drive it to you myself, not impossible that someone else might step up with a similar offer knowing this forum.

That immediately knocks down what's probably the biggest thing likely to cause you stress as it doesn't require you venturing any further from home than the bottom of the stairs to meet whoever delivers it.  Looks like you've got insurance sorted with the quote from Admiral which will be a boon as you'll be able to start owning some proper NCB then.

The idea of riding a C5 somewhere as busy as London would terrify me!  Only reason I bought mine really was that we have a fully off-street cycle network here, so it's genuinely fun.  Not exactly the easiest thing to climb into or out of, so I suspect if we got Dez into it we'd never get him out again.  I really do need to get mine out more this year though, it barely moved last year.

[JJ0063]

£150 for my time plus travel costs and I’ll collect the thing and deliver it 

[SmokinWaffle]

3 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

£150 for my time plus travel costs and I’ll collect the thing and deliver it 

I'll gladly chuck £20 into the fund to do this to see @LightBulbFun being able to progress the hobby / life and get things moving again. Same goes if Ceri gets it. 

Regardless of intention, kindness, costs / doing it for free or agreements - in this situation it feels like @red5 is literally putting a large section of someone else's life on pause indefinitely and just being ignorant to the situation by not replying. Ignoring you when he has *your car* and is actively posting and viewing the forum is frightfully poor form to say the least. He's basically holding any progress @LightBulbFun wants to make hostage. 

 

I'm happy to be proven wrong.

 

Remember we are all here for the same reason - love of old shit cars. No matter who it is - it genuinely upsets me to see someone with such passion being fucked about and strung along. Its literally effecting your life and mental health. Please - I urge you to get it back in whatever state its in. 

You aren't being unreasonable. We are all adults. I'm sure red understands. Even if he doesn't - he'd be the minority. Anyone in your situation would be totally justified going and getting it back. 

[LightBulbFun]

I really appreciate all the assistance people have offered  

 

for those wondering I did ask the seller about it over the last couple days, but as I woke up today I was informed it sold

but I very much appreciate all the assistance offered, it does make it much more approachable for me 

(even on the Limo, I was not doing that alone, I had my brother poised to tag along and look after me)

 

the plan was if it was still available to ask @JJ0063 if he could go and see it/poke it for me with a stick so to speak. and then from there if it all checked out, just have it transported down.

and I was thinking about Ceri, I have used him few times now  notably to get REV from my dead end to Red5's workshop, and then on very notice he was able to swing into action and grab the Harper Mk6A for us, which is something I really appreciate  

and also the Windmill towing, they recovered REV from the sellers place I bought her from to the FoD and plenty of other cars for various shitters so I know they can be trusted and do a good job  

 

[Dobloseven]

18 minutes ago, SmokinWaffle said:

I'll gladly chuck £20 into the fund to do this to see @LightBulbFun being able to progress the hobby / life and get things moving again. Same goes if Ceri gets it. 

Regardless of intention, kindness, costs / doing it for free or agreements - in this situation it feels like @red5 is literally putting a large section of someone else's life on pause indefinitely and just being ignorant to the situation by not replying. Ignoring you when he has *your car* and is actively posting and viewing the forum is frightfully poor form to say the least. He's basically holding any progress @LightBulbFun wants to make hostage. 

 

I'm happy to be proven wrong.

 

Remember we are all here for the same reason - love of old shit cars. No matter who it is - it genuinely upsets me to see someone with such passion being fucked about and strung along. Its literally effecting your life and mental health. Please - I urge you to get it back in whatever state its in. 

You aren't being unreasonable. We are all adults. I'm sure red understands. Even if he doesn't - he'd be the minority. Anyone in your situation would be totally justified going and getting it back. 

Like many others,no doubt,I feel LBFs predicament.I'd honestly be a bit wary of buying the Kangoo blind.its a 20 year old modified car at the end of the day.True,at least there's places with knowledge, experience , and parts,unlike Invacars.But can't help imagining a scenario where it develops a seemingly minor issue,gets taken to a friendly local garage,leading to much sucking of teeth,followed by cries of "how much?"Regarding retrieving,REV, it's a bit of a Catch 22.Won't be possible to get it back smoothly without red5s cooperation.Assuming it's still tucked away at the College and he still works there.No doubt the security guards wouldn't be very sympathetic to someone just turning up with a transporter!

[Rust Collector]

On 24/01/2024 at 20:25, Jim Bergerac said:

Buy Kangoo, A Frame Invacar home with Kangoo. Problem solved!

 

On 24/01/2024 at 20:34, Dobloseven said:

Sorry to be pedantic,but drop down ramp isn't compatible with a towbar!

 

On 24/01/2024 at 21:25, wuvvum said:

Run the front wheel of the Invacar up the ramp, ratchet strap it down, job jobbed.

You're all wrong: the obvious solution is to tow the Kangoo on an A frame behind the Invacar

[Dobloseven]

1 minute ago, Rust Collector said:

 

 

You're all wrong: the obvious solution is to tow the Kangoo on an A frame behind the Invacar

Hmmm,at the moment we've got neither!

[egg]

You're a very polite chap Dez, even your Marketplace messages lack the required passive aggressive shithousery that FB is famous for.

BTW, the thread title is 'still harping on' shurely 'Harpering on' geddit?

FREE REV!

[LightBulbFun]

3 hours ago, Rust Collector said:

You're all wrong: the obvious solution is to tow the Kangoo on an A frame behind the Invacar

im frankly disappointed no one suggested that sooner LOL 

especially as it has been done before, sort of...

GTW614N dropped a valve right in the middle of the centre of York, so there was nothing for it LOL

3 hours ago, egg said:

You're a very polite chap Dez, even your Marketplace messages lack the required passive aggressive shithousery that FB is famous for.

haha thanks  I guess thats what social anxiety does to a person, and the fact I am acutely aware through these beige pages, that people dont really like getting 

"is this available m8" messages, but at the same given it had been up for a week I did want to double check it was still available, so I tried to go about it as well mannered as I could

3 hours ago, egg said:

BTW, the thread title is 'still harping on' shurely 'Harpering on' geddit?

I was wondering when someone might pickup on that  (or maybe everyone did and just never said anything LOL)

3 hours ago, egg said:

FREE REV!

this seems to have galvanised Red5 into responding a little  

he confirmed the address for sending another carb to is the same as it was last time, so I have forward that onto Adam, who kindly said he will have a look at the box of carbs he got from the Hammond collection and see if theres something workable in there

but he also said/sent

3 hours ago, red5 said:

It is - I think* it may be slightly less leaking now after a little more fettling. 

Am running it it shortly - fingers crossed.

 

2 hours ago, red5 said:

 

2 hours ago, red5 said:

No leaks.

Nice and smoooooth.

Will try cold start with choke Monday.

 

so that sounds like to me maybe hopefully the pick-n-mix carburettor might actually finally be behaving itself?  

 

hopefully it is! im sure the last thing Red5 wants is to have to try and build up yet another carburettor, so im hopefully we wont actually need the 3rd carb (obviously ill keep pressing on with regards to getting one sourced one, but you know what I mean!)

 

im still not sure what the overall status/ETA of things is sadly, Red5 said the plan is to get REV drivable, but im not sure if he means literally just going backwards and forwards, or drivable as in, roadworthy, and will get me to the chippy and back 

(like for example the holed exhaust down-pipe that I bandaged over or slight play in the front wheel, I am not sure what the status of those are)

 

 

[wuvvum]

Still, you know a lot more than you did this time yesterday, which is a good thing!

[CaptainBoom]

5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

 

That's an incredibly polite dialogue you had with Linda and it's a testament to you.  Online messaging can be such a terse form of communication.  The most I have ever got out of people on Marketplace is the usual '400' 2nite m8 or '50 quid and a motorbike ashtray, meet outside the Co-op on Mare Street'.  Or the inevitable ghosting after you confirm something is available.

Lots of words have been typed in the last 24 hours and I make it a policy not to stick my head above the parapet (here and in real life tbh) but if you do get something in the future and need it transported, I'm happy to go and get it for you and bring it to the dead end.  I held back on offering as others threw their hat into the ring, but I'm always up for an adventure!  Likewise if said vehicle needs light fettling, (track rod ends, an oil change, brake pads, new plugs etc) I'm happy to come up and help.  However, when it's a little warmer than last time, eh? 😝 my fingers are still numb from two years ago!

[BorniteIdentity]

Is RedFünf ok?

That is my only concern. Proper decent guy in my experience and was very straightforward to deal with. 

If anyone knows him - drop him a text and say I and a few others were asking after him. 

[JJ0063]

5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

 I have forward that onto Adam, who kindly said he will have a look at the box of carbs he got from the Hammond collection and see if theres something workable in there

I could’ve sworn you posted a while ago that you had all the spare parts you could need ready to go? Now after all this time and knowing the carb was having major issues, you’re relying on someone else to look through a box of spares to see if they have something they could send? 
 

It’s things like this slipping out the woodwork that make me wonder if there’s more to this story than meets the eye?!

 

5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

im still not sure what the overall status/ETA of things is sadly, Red5 said the plan is to get REV drivable, but im not sure if he means literally just going backwards and forwards, or drivable as in, roadworthy, and will get me to the chippy and back 

I don’t think you can set your expectations that @red5 is doing a wheeler dealers resto for you here, I know we all have a perception of how things are said but knowing the state of this thing and how knackered it is, driveable would be (IMO) so that it starts and stops, this type of vehicle will simply never be ‘finished’ and even if you got to a point of it being in your eyes safe to use on the road, you can bet your bottom dollar if it miraculously made it to FOD, that single journey would result in you having another list of jobs to fix upon getting back again. 

5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

slight play in the front wheel

SLIGHT play? Dez, that wheel was on the verge of falling off man 😂 

[Jazoli]

I still can't believe this is still going on

Pay a man to pick up your invacare

Drop it at one of the suggested garages

Pay the bill and pick it up when it's "roadworthy"

Take it for a drive, scare yourself shitless, probably end up running into the back of someone and then realise that the dozens of people who have offered you advice and help were right all along, 

It's never going to be fit to drive to fod or whatever

It's not fit to drive in modern traffic

Your not fit enough to drive it

You and it will be a total liability 

Grow up, stop dreamin, make some adult choices and get on with your funking life, you seem inable to ask direct questions and pick up the phone, any reasonable person would have sorted this at least a year ago

Then just buy a car, several brilliant ones (not taxis) have been suggested on here but you don't even bother replying to the most sensible posts which will give you the mobility you obviously want and then this constant spinning merry-go-round will finally end.

[LightBulbFun]

49 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

I could’ve sworn you posted a while ago that you had all the spare parts you could need ready to go? Now after all this time and knowing the carb was having major issues, you’re relying on someone else to look through a box of spares to see if they have something they could send? 

oh they have something to send alright

 

its just until now I didn't even know what address to send them, when someone asks for a carburettor but you dont know where to send it to, what are you supposed to do?

 

my guy with the car also needs to find time to go to where they are stored and fish out the correct one for me,

as I want to make sure I get a 32ICS10 or 32ICS10T, early Model 70's had 32ICS3's where later Model 70's had 32ICS10T, I dont know the difference between them exactly so to avoid having an engine/carb miss-match*

i'd like to try and secure a 32ICS10 or 32ICS10T if I can.

 

I also know he has one that he had completely refurbished by someone who had the contract in the 1980's to refurbish them for the Ministry (thus has all the spare parts on the shelf), so while I have been waiting to get an address to send to

I thought It might be worth exploring that option to see if I can just get Red5 a completely perfect carb that he can fit and forget with no fuckery 

now I have an address confirmed I have forwarded it onto my carb guy and hopefully after a couple days one should be winging its away to Red5.

 

 

*I know a 32ICS3 will work on a later Model 70 engine, but my only source for that is TWC, and we know that TWC has always been somewhat down on power, so I do have to wonder if thats down to the early carb being on a later engine

 

49 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

It’s things like this slipping out the woodwork that make me wonder if there’s more to this story than meets the eye?!

see this is exactly what I meant by a rock and hard place, how do you expect me to respond to that? 

49 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

SLIGHT play? Dez, that wheel was on the verge of falling off man 😂 

@Mr Pastry forgive me for tagging you, but I know you have many years of the mechanical experience and are somewhat familiar with with the layout of the Model 70 front suspension/hub setup

would you say thats about to fall off? to me I perceived it as simply a bit of play/a slight clonk, and only when unloaded (IIRC when loaded up/aka on the ground there was no detectable play through the handle bars when I jiggled them back and forth, it was only when the front wheel was up in the air was there play/a clonk)

so I took it as "something that ideally wants sorting, but is not the end of the world" but if I am wrong I would like to know so I can adjust myself accordingly if that makes sense  

[JJ0063]

3 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

oh they have something to send alright

 

its just until now I didn't even know what address to send them, when someone asks for a carburettor but you dont know where to send it to, what are you supposed to do?

 

my guy with the car also needs to find time to go to where they are stored and fish out the correct one for me,

as I want to make sure I get a 32ICS10 or 32ICS10T, early Model 70's had 32ICS3's where later Model 70's had 32ICS10T, I dont know the difference between them exactly so to avoid having an engine/carb miss-match*

i'd like to try and secure a 32ICS10 or 32ICS10T if I can.

 

I also know he has one that he had completely refurbished by someone who had the contract in the 1980's to refurbish them for the Ministry (thus has all the spare parts on the shelf), so while I have been waiting to get an address to send to

I thought It might be worth exploring that option to see if I can just get Red5 a completely perfect carb that he can fit and forget with no fuckery 

now I have an address confirmed I have forwarded it onto my carb guy and hopefully after a couple days one should be winging its away to Red5.

 

 

*I know a 32ICS3 will work on a later Model 70 engine, but my only source for that is TWC, and we know that TWC has always been somewhat down on power, so I do have to wonder if thats down to the early carb being on a later engine

This sums up everything pretty well though and you just seem to miss the point Dez. 
 

Someone’s trying to help get the thing simply running - starting - stopping for you. It then turns into all those words above with people having to go and cross reference multiple part numbers and to the extremes of you asking them if they will sell parts off of their own vehicles thus losing originality of their own car just so you get the exact part numbered item you want (note want rather than need) for yours?

Surely the logical thing would be to say right ok the person who is kindly doing the work out of the goodness of trying to help you needs X part, let’s not fuck about with all of that above, let’s just get A carb over to him quick snap. 
 

What I’m getting at is that all these people who are trying to help you have their own lives, jobs, families as well as trying to help you out. Why not just do things the quickest and easiest way to get the basics done so you get the car home like you’re so desperate to have? Then finding exact part numbered replacements can be an ongoing thing over more time.

[RoverFolkUs]

Trying to keep a historic vehicle original is nice, but it's a bit of a tall order. 

Couldn't agree more regarding just get everything you need to get it running and most importantly - make some progress, then source original parts in the long term

The quicker it's up and running, the sooner your beloved pet can return from the vets (!)

[Mr Pastry]

5 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

would you say thats about to fall off?

Not actually about to fall off, but it does need sorting, and would be an MOT failure. 

I can't see exactly what is going on from the video, but there's three possible things -the  ball joints on the steering rod, the wheel bearings, and the kingpin.  My impression is that the ball joints are OK.   There doesn't appear to be any noise when you spin the wheel which suggests that the bearings are probably OK, but I am very suspicious about the kingpin.   On that basis I would want to replace the kingpin and bushes, and would probably replace the bearings while I was at it.  And I would certainly check the ball joints - I believe Zel had to change his, so they do wear out.  I can see the kingpin being a right faff, because they usually are.  Which is probably why it hasn't been done.

That's perhaps not what you want to hear but I am just being realistic.

[warren t claim]

On 21/01/2024 at 15:37, LightBulbFun said:

about 60 miles or so? about an 1h:45m or 2 hours depending on if if I tick the avoid motorways button or not

 

the FoD is what I plan to work up to, in regard to REV and confidence building, obviously when I get her back its going to probably mostly local running around while I get back into the swing of things and make sure REV is behaving herself, and then hopefully by the next FoD gathering, ill have enough confidance in myself and REV to take her to the FoD and back again, and I think if she can complete that 120 mile round trip without major issue, then I can confide in her and myself to do longer trips from there on out  

 

but thats obviously all just a plan, I dont have REV back yet sadly

I've done Mad Sunday on the IOM TT whilst probably still pissed from the night before and I'd say that was a more sane venture than undertaking a long distance trip in REV.

[Mrcento]

39 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

Not actually about to fall off, but it does need sorting, and would be an MOT failure. 

I can't see exactly what is going on from the video, but there's three possible things -the  ball joints on the steering rod, the wheel bearings, and the kingpin.  My impression is that the ball joints are OK.   There doesn't appear to be any noise when you spin the wheel which suggests that the bearings are probably OK, but I am very suspicious about the kingpin.   On that basis I would want to replace the kingpin and bushes, and would probably replace the bearings while I was at it.  And I would certainly check the ball joints - I believe Zel had to change his, so they do wear out.  I can see the kingpin being a right faff, because they usually are.  Which is probably why it hasn't been done.

That's perhaps not what you want to hear but I am just being realistic.

I'd agree with that, Kingpin very suspect. Would say as well though i'd suspect the ball joint on the steering arm has wear, there's tons of play at the wheel but a smaller amount across the point of the steering arm joint. Agree bearing sounds fine when it's spun, but would have some suspicions that under load it might end up being a little grumbly (And given the age and having sat for so long, even if it isn't, i'd not expect it to last long regardless, between seals probably having long dried up, whatever grease that was in/around it going off/drying up, contaminants, bearing surfaces lifting and starting to corrode etc). To be honest, given so much will be off the shelf from other cars, worth doing it all. Especially given that's the only wheel that allows steering control.

I'd expect that thing would be terrifying above walking speed in that condition.

[Mr Pastry]

2 minutes ago, Mrcento said:

I'd expect that thing would be terrifying above walking speed in that condition.

I was going to say this.  Probably fine for going to the chippy, but at main road speeds it's going to be potentially dangerous.   I think the bearings and ball joints are readily available, the kingpin parts probably not, so that's where it gets difficult, and there could be some machining required there.

@LightBulbFunDon't read too much into the carburettor numbers.  They are minor differences in design which probably don't affect performance at all.   The overall condition of the  carb is more important.

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Mr Pastry said:

Not actually about to fall off, but it does need sorting, and would be an MOT failure. 

I can't see exactly what is going on from the video, but there's three possible things -the  ball joints on the steering rod, the wheel bearings, and the kingpin.  My impression is that the ball joints are OK.   There doesn't appear to be any noise when you spin the wheel which suggests that the bearings are probably OK, but I am very suspicious about the kingpin.   On that basis I would want to replace the kingpin and bushes, and would probably replace the bearings while I was at it.  And I would certainly check the ball joints - I believe Zel had to change his, so they do wear out.  I can see the kingpin being a right faff, because they usually are.  Which is probably why it hasn't been done.

That's perhaps not what you want to hear but I am just being realistic.

thanks!  I genuinely appreciate your input on the matter, its exactly what I wanted to hear

it gives me an analytical breakdown of the what the issue is suspected to be

its worth pointing out, that this is an issue that has been on my radar/concern for some time, and I have mentioned it to Red5 a few times,

exactly because of my concern of "i dont actually know how bad this is" and since I dont know how bad it is or is not, i'd like it looked at please

 

the fact its likely a MOT failure point makes it all the more reason for me to be concerned about the fact I still have yet to hear anything from Red5 on the matter

since I certainly/obviously do not want to bring REV home into the dead end until all such items are sorted, be it by Red5 or some other party

9 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

I was going to say this.  Probably fine for going to the chippy, but at main road speeds it's going to be potentially dangerous.   I think the bearings and ball joints are readily available, the kingpin parts probably not, so that's where it gets difficult, and there could be some machining required there.

STY160 is the front king pin, thrust washers and dust caps, for which I have this picture at least, so we know what it looks like at least  

 

the front wheel bearings are SKF RLS 7 and SKF RLS 6 (and I have in my notes that a substitute for the RLS 6  the FAG LS8)

and ball joints are all just regular mini items IIRC