invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[SiC]

1 hour ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

So it's ok for everyone e to have a pop at me but not me to rertaliate... I don't think so! 😆.  As for @Mrs6Ccouldn't organise an orgasm in a brothel! 

 

1 hour ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

Fucking ban me be glad to get away from the know if all, up their own arse, stab you in the back, don't back you up, two faced cunts on here!   As for @LightBulbFunhe doesn't control the bullying, or support you, well this might be (so what??). Hes probably too busy having a wank over a 15w Osram!! 😆

Christ on a bike. You're a right charming fellow aren't you. 🤦

[Sham]

Just now, petermcpete said:

Why are you still pretending to be different people? 🤣

I did wonder this - but don't care enough.

It's pretty clear that whether you use a he or they pronoun, twat is an adjective that fits.

[petermcpete]

This thread is fucking hilarious, I'm envisioning Old Bloke sat at home in his shed, shaking with anger and mouth frothing like that Hitler scene in Downfall

[Jim Bergerac]

5 minutes ago, petermcpete said:

This thread is fucking hilarious, I'm envisioning Old Bloke sat at home in his shed, shaking with anger and mouth frothing like that Hitler scene in Downfall

 

[petermcpete]

Why don't we settle this like Zuckerberg and Musk, with a cage fight? OldBloke in one corner, Mrs6C in another, Bornite too, just have a free for all. Could have it on pay per view, got to be worth a tenner of anyone's cash

[wuvvum]

46 minutes ago, plasticvandan said:

And some pics for Mr Lightbulb,wonder what happened to it:

I took these in c.2002 only around 2 miles from where REV is/was currently residing.

 

Stop posting photos of Model 70s you elitist bastard!

[cms206]

4 hours ago, alcyonecorporation said:

DVLA has recently decided, without warning, that genuine VIN plates are the gold standard for plate retention and not even the FBHVC know why, as of yet. 

Some of you may remember the trio of Jolly Green Giants the company I was a manager for purchased a few years back.

Of those, the two that had been repowered had no chassis numbers at all, and the third one which still ran it's Gardner engine was a ringer.

In itself this wasn't a big issue but the one it actually was also survived BrightBus and it too was a ringer...

[JJ0063]

23 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Stop posting photos of Model 70s you elitist bastard!

I’m sick of this thread being derailed, massive argument in progress and someone decides to start posting pics of bloody Invacares. Just start your own thread FFS

[warren t claim]

I wonder if the Invacare people constantly check for uses of their brand name in all media and go all Portacabin legal when the brand gets mentioned? 

[Dobloseven]

2 hours ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

So it's ok for everyone e to have a pop at me but not me to rertaliate... I don't think so! 😆.  As for @Mrs6Ccouldn't organise an orgasm in a brothel! 

 

2 hours ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

Fucking ban me be glad to get away from the know if all, up their own arse, stab you in the back, don't back you up, two faced cunts on here!   As for @LightBulbFunhe doesn't control the bullying, or support you, well this might be (so what??). Hes probably too busy having a wank over a 15w Osram!! 😆

Please stop giving me these mental images! 

[chancer]

I wonder if anyone googling reviews for Invacare mobility scooters get pointed in this direction....can imagine the sales guys face when some old dear demands the nice blue 3 wheeler she seen on the internet

[alcyonecorporation]

22 minutes ago, chancer said:

I wonder if anyone googling reviews for Invacare mobility scooters get pointed in this direction....can imagine the sales guys face when some old dear demands the nice blue 3 wheeler she seen on the internet

I think you are grossly, grossly over estimating the SEO look up potential of AS there, my man.

[beko1987]

44 minutes ago, alcyonecorporation said:

I think you are grossly, grossly over estimating the SEO look up potential of AS there, my man.

Idk, I've googled random stuff before and AS has been the only/one of only a few results! 

That's how I ended up joining originally I think, was go ogling for the zx I bought when my Puma did a Ford and rusted away and As was all that really came up, was certainly more fun to read than the french car forum! 

Googles analytics will be having a shitfit trying to work out the explosion of interest in Invacare recently

[RoverFolkUs]

3 hours ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

Fucking ban me be glad to get away from the know if all, up their own arse, stab you in the back, don't back you up, two faced cunts on here!   As for @LightBulbFunhe doesn't control the bullying, or support you, well this might be (so what??). Hes probably too busy having a wank over a 15w Osram!! 😆

Are you for real? First of all you're accusing everyone of bullying and then you make that comment about LBF who is QUITE RIGHTLY not backing up or condoning your illegal activity, or brummiejon's illegal activity for the 1% who don't believe you are the same person. 

Glass caravans and stones etc etc .... 

[RoverFolkUs]

The last few pages of this thread are like walking into the village centre on a Saturday morning fete. A couple of tables containing a few noisy folk having a banal chinwag about world matter and the radio that's been tuned over two stations. 

Numerous conversations going on at once, none of which make any sense!

[LightBulbFun]

3 hours ago, plasticvandan said:

From memory they are around 250-300kg,haven't found the weight yet but might be in my archive.

Page from the Ministry's master book

And some pics for Mr Lightbulb,wonder what happened to it:

I took these in c.2002 only around 2 miles from where REV is/was currently residing.

 

the Stanley Argson exerpt from the Ministry Catalog is very cool to see Especially the example being shown happens to be TPA20

goes well with TPA107 and TPA261F that I found on the DVLA

On 01/02/2020 at 23:02, LightBulbFun said:

but one for @Zelandeth I did come across this, "First generation" TPA  (which the DVLA has recorded as diesel fueled!)

 

(theortically there may be a xxxTPA Stanley Mk7 or AC Acedes Model 57 or Model 64 here)

 

 

and then the AC Acedes Mk14 Model 67 I found a while back

and obviously TPA the Model 70  

I espically find it fitting that of the TPA-F Model 67 block, that TPA261F is the one to still show up on the DVLA since 261 is an anagram of 621! (TPA621M)

are you sure that an Argson would be *that* heavy tho? I know they where built like brick shit-houses very robust machines, but even so that seems a bit heavy, however I dont have any exact data for an Argson on my end, but for a bodied harding Model lV I have 127Kg and for full bodied AC Acedes Model 57, I have 274kg (and for an Invacar Mk12E and Model 67 I have 305Kg)

so I'd be a bit surprised if an Argson really weighed *that* much, but as said they where built like brick shit houses, so who knows  

 

 

very cool to see some more pictures of OPH806R I know you have posted about it before (on page 67 funnily enough ) but its always nice to see/appreciated always  

 

 as per last time it goes well with this picture I have! just 1 car removed  

[garbaldy]

15 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

Are you sure that an Argson would be *that* heavy tho? I know they where built like brick shit-houses very robust machines, but even so that seems a bit heavy, I dont have any exact data for an Argson on my end, but I have for a bodied harding Model lV I have 127Kg and for an AC Acedes Model 57, I have 274kg 

so I'd be a bit surprised if an Argson really weighed *that* much, but as said they where built like brick shit houses, so who knows  

 

 

 

 

I have a motorbike that weighs 230kg and has alloy wheels and plastic tank and panels so I bet they can beat that, they sure look heavy.

[plasticvandan]

Could quite easily,I have a few 1950s motorcycles of the 350cc type and they weigh around 225-250 kg a piece. Of course they have an engine but then they don't have a bank of traction batteries either.

[captain_70s]

56 minutes ago, beko1987 said:

Idk, I've googled random stuff before and AS has been the only/one of only a few results! 

The girlfriend Googled "numberplate fonts" and got a thread from here as one of the first results. That's a pretty boring bastard topic though and frankly if that sort of thing wasn't to be found here I'd just fuck off.

[wuvvum]

31 minutes ago, plasticvandan said:

Could quite easily,I have a few 1950s motorcycles of the 350cc type and they weigh around 225-250 kg a piece. Of course they have an engine but then they don't have a bank of traction batteries either.

Yep, it's the batteries that will do it.  Lead acid batteries are heavy bastards.

[ETCHY]

1 hour ago, captain_70s said:

The girlfriend Googled "numberplate fonts" and got a thread from here as one of the first results. That's a pretty boring bastard topic though and frankly if that sort of thing wasn't to be found here I'd just fuck off.

You got a link to that thread, sounds interesting 😁

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, plasticvandan said:

Could quite easily,I have a few 1950s motorcycles of the 350cc type and they weigh around 225-250 kg a piece. Of course they have an engine but then they don't have a bank of traction batteries either.

1 hour ago, wuvvum said:

Yep, it's the batteries that will do it.  Lead acid batteries are heavy bastards.

I am just curious from purely a research/invalid carriage nerd POV how much a an Argson weighs now, 

because back when the Argson was fresh on the scene so to speak, the weight limit for all things invalid Carriage was 254Kg, but I realise that I dont actually know if in the case of electric machines the weight of the traction batteries counted towards the total mass of the vehicle or not

the Harding Model IV is a 36V electric machine using 3x12V batteries like the Argson, hence why I mentioned it since its the closest thing I have to an Argson who's official weight I do know, but its chassis construction is much lighter duty then an Argson (but it is bodied where an Argson is not)

so an argson is unlikely (although not impossible) to be any higher then 5 hundredweight (254Kg in new fangled money) but it IS a machine that is built very robustly, so yeah I am quite curious now just how much one weighs!

 

if someone stopped me in the street and asked,  how much one weighed probably around the 200-250kg mark is what I'd of said

 

I do know that the weight for an invalid carriage is done explicitly done *unladen* but again I am not sure if in the case of electric machines that means excluding the weight of traction batteries or not

 

however on the subject of hardings, while writing this I have just checked a Harding Consort's buff logbook (which the Model IV is an electric version of) and the Consort also is down as weighing 127kg which is really interesting!

so given that for 2 machines otherwise identical specifications,  apart from one being Electric and one Being Petrol, both are down as weighing 127Kg, means I want to say that the Electric machine's weight was done without batteries?

 

 

[JJ0063]

Sorry to take this thread off topic but I assume you’ve seen this episode of Witness @LightBulbFun? 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-45907925

 

Lots of footage of Invacares, don’t worry about linking me to the post if you’ve already seen, it just wasn’t anything I’d discovered in the wank bank/InvaHub in the past! 

[LightBulbFun]

Yerp indeed I have seen that one before  the Invacar Model 70 featured is in Kuwait now from what I heard! 

would love to know exactly what its doing over there, I assume its in some rich oil guys car collection, I bet it must look nicely incongruous against all the Bugatti's  and what have you  

I sadly dont have any details tho beyond that it went to Kuwait (and it does have an Export marker on the DVLA)

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, captain_70s said:

The girlfriend Googled "numberplate fonts" and got a thread from here as one of the first results. That's a pretty boring bastard topic though and frankly if that sort of thing wasn't to be found here I'd just fuck off.

Would 'the gf googles' be more or less boring a thread?

[Dave_Q]

Another titbit from the class 3 invalid carriage page:

Could this be a reason not to want to register ones carriage as a class 3? Becuase technically then it can only be driven by someone who is disabled?

While it sounds like brummiejon and the angryblokeinacaravan qualify on the "have trouble walking" front, not everyone who owns or would like to own such a vehicle as an interest/hobby is disabled, so you're restricting who can use it by registering as class 3 rather than a generic tricycle.

[barefoot]

Presumably I could use it for 30 or 40 minutes if you were to give me a sizeable kick in the bollocks?

It seems like a lot of trouble for an invacare.

[alcyonecorporation]

51 minutes ago, barefoot said:

It seems like a lot of trouble for an invacare.

Especially when their spokesperson appears to be an angry wank sock. Bad PR, lots of bullying, 0/10. 

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Dave_Q said:

Another titbit from the class 3 invalid carriage page:

Could this be a reason not to want to register ones carriage as a class 3? Becuase technically then it can only be driven by someone who is disabled?

While it sounds like brummiejon and the angryblokeinacaravan qualify on the "have trouble walking" front, not everyone who owns or would like to own such a vehicle as an interest/hobby is disabled, so you're restricting who can use it by registering as class 3 rather than a generic tricycle.

alright, I would just like to clarify that the rules and regulations that govern Invalid Carriages and Mobility Scooters are 2 completely separate set of rules and regulations that have nothing to do with each other 

its just some someone back in the day decided to also call the Mobility Scooter type vehicle an "invalid Carriage" so everyone gets confused by that, but rules and regulations set down for Mobility scooters comes from Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 as well as The Use of Invalid Carriages on Highways Regulations 1970 (further updated in 1988)

 

but unlike what @red5 says

On 14/08/2023 at 12:44, red5 said:

because they won't magically move a vehicle from an defunct classification

an Invalid Carriage in the "invacar" sense is not a defunct class of vehicle, there is still a clear set of rules and regulations laid down for that vehicle class to this very day

 

I really dont get why people think they are defunct? well I suspect I do, and I suspect its do with the fact that a lot of people thought they where banned/ceased to be a thing from the road when the government axed its own invalid vehicle scheme in its entirety in 2003

but just because 1 major owner of a type of vehicle gets rid of them all, does not mean they and their rules and regulations cease to exist, a Routemaster is still a double decker bus, despite the fact London got rid of them all LOL

 

and like wise the same goes for Invalid Carriages, who's rules and regulations where first set by the Road Traffic Act of 1930, long before any Governmental scheme for them existed, and have continued to be a thing updated throughout long after the governmental scheme ceased to be

 

I am not posting this in defence or against anyone here, just simply as a statement to clarify things, since this is my thread, and I dont want it to be miss leading to anyone who comes across it

 

its bad enough that a lot of people incorrectly think Invacars (and when I say Invacars I am referring to Invalid Vehicles of types that are not a Mobility scooter) are banned from the Road, or banned from Motorways, or Illegal to own, or are all government property or have to be re-registered as Tricycles! 

so I dont need people thinking they have anything to do with Mobility scooters! LOL

 

[JJ0063]

15 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

so I dont need people thinking they have anything to do with Mobility scooters! LOL

 

Easy mistake when they both have the same name though isn’t it. I can see why/how it happens.