invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[Dyslexic Viking]

5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

its been in Kuwait since early 2019 last I heard! 

Do you know why it is in Kuwait? It seems strange.

[LightBulbFun]

10 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

Do you know why it is in Kuwait? It seems strange.

it sold via Car and classic, for £5000 to a Private collection over there, thats all the details I have regarding where it went to sadly! 

 

the chap selling it, actually offered it to me first, but no way I could have afforded it at the time sadly, I had only a few hundred quid saved up at that point in time!

it all happened right around the start of this thread, if you dare to venture that far back  

 

Model 70's do have form for showing up in all sorts of unlikely places, as far flung as Thailand

and India!

On 26/06/2021 at 20:19, LightBulbFun said:

 

 

and the second lot of pictures I came across is of a (I think Invacar) Model 70 in India, I knew about this one, but had very little in the way of details and no pictures, well now I have a few pictures but still not many details

I do wonder if this one is JHJ548N which is the only other potentially surviving Private Invacar Model 70 I know of, but which sadly fell off the radar so to speak in 2008-2009 (its another machine I have no pictures of sadly, but the features of this Model 70 match with what JHJ548N would have had, ie a Mark B on 12 inch wheels etc )

its interesting how various people  make do and mend with what they have on hand with regards to replacing the rear lights 

its also interesting to see its got another gauge on the dash board of some kind I wonder which it is

sadly I dont know the current status of the machine, I think it was last for sale in 2010 in Karnataka India, but what happen to it after then I dont know sadly

but im still happy to finally have found pictures of it  

 

and someone even field found a Model 70 in the US! 

On 23/09/2022 at 20:31, LightBulbFun said:

the next Car and this is where it gets really exciting! 

is this one!

you might think it looks familiar indeed it is the Mystery Model 70 from a good few years ago!

On 01/07/2019 at 15:03, LightBulbFun said:

heres one in the US somewhere, sadly not sure which one this is, or where/who owns it exactly https://www.instagram.com/p/BXtzKt4l3ye/

 

I have been wondering about this one for a long time since I first found it, no one had a clue as to which it was, not even one Stuart recognised or anything!

and I finally tracked down who it ended up with! and indeed it something quite special!

turns out that REV is not alone! there is indeed another private Invacar Model 70 out there! this is Private Car number 7 it turns out!  

its really exciting to see! as until now, It was generally thought REV was the only private Invacar Model 70 known to still survive (JHJ548N was taxed until 2008 and had a keeper change in 09 so I really hope that one is still out there somewhere, but I have never been able to verify it sadly)

so its really awesome to see there is another out there!, the story behind it is interesting! im still getting the info and putting the puzzle together but apparently it was bought by a lady in England who took it with her when she moved to the States in the late 1970's! im told theres US documents for it going back to at least 1979!

I did initially wonder if it had been sold to someone new in the US as before the current owner, it was bought by a dad for his disabled son to use, but turns out they where just the next owners after the British lady traded into a Chevy dealership who then donated to an Injured Motorcross youth, who then sold to a friend of the owners where its just been purchased from  this does mean it would have a english registration mark if it was indeed owned by someone in the UK for a couple years before going to the US with them

but curiously enough none of the Invacar Model 70 blocks from the time this vehicle is from show any holes indicating a private car! so thats very interesting (there is a chance it could of been registered outside of Essex, but that in itself is very rare of the handful Private Invacar Model 70's I can find on the DVLA only 1 is non Essex registered, LRL389P the rest where just registered inside of Ministry blocks) being from 1975, I do know that if it was registered in the UK it would of been directly onto the DVLA computer thus a record of it will still exist somewhere in the DVLA today

but sadly due to the DVLA's historic archiving of anything inactive pre 1983, means theres no way for me to pull any data on it at home (not helped by the fact private cars tend to be a bit random in how their chassis numbers where recorded) 

so sadly I dont know its UK registration mark or if it had one! (I say if it had one because I do also wonder if it was ordered/bought by the UK owner as she moved to the US and thus was never registered over here, but again as above still putting the puzzle together!)

 

heres a few more pictures! its interesting to see the mods and make and do mend things its picked up after spending 40 years in the US! like the awful rear lights LOL

and most bizarrely for some reason at some point the hydraulics for the front brake had been disconnected and replaced with a cable operated by its own lever on the handle bars! 

it also seems like someone in the past traveled to the future and pinched @Zelandeth's idea and fitted a blower motor  

 

all in all its a very fascinating and awesome find! so to speak! really awesome to not only find out about a long standing Mystery car but to also find that another private Invacar Model 70 survives out there! and thankfully the owner seems to be very in tune with Invacars and despite normally being someone who is very deep into the car customisation scene (see the woody beetle estate next to it!)

he plans to just treat it to a nice restoration this winter while trying to keep everything as original as possible which I am very pleased to hear, he clearly understands the significance and rarity of what he has  

he also confirmed for me that it was indeed the car being talked about here which I had been wondering about itself for many years!

https://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3791.0

did some really field find a Model 70 as far away as the USA? indeed they did! Invacars they really do show up everywhere! 

 

[Weird Car]

Has anyone got a set of rear lights going really cheap please? ‘Around the £20 mark’ I just need them as a stop gap until I can get my originals rebuilt, I’d be happy with a set of originals or later britax. Many thanks.

[StefanH]

 

[StefanH]

I have found an Other survival Invacar...maybe it is new in the List.

I have found it in a Youtube Video. There is a special exibithion in Basel(Swizerland) in a museum in the moment.

It is NNO 246C.

Here som sceenshots before...

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, StefanH said:

 

 

58 minutes ago, StefanH said:

I have found an Other survival Invacar...maybe it is new in the List.

I have found it in a Youtube Video. There is a special exibithion in Basel(Swizerland) in a museum in the moment.

It is NNO 246C.

Here som sceenshots before...

oooh awesome! I have known of NNO246C for a fair old while!

On 12/05/2020 at 22:09, LightBulbFun said:

NNO246C, Invacar Mk12A Date of first registration 12 October 1965, Current status unknown, untaxed since 1st may 1986

but I have never known where it ended up! (it was sold a good few years back and reportedly in Germany somewhere but I never been to verify that)

 

so its awesome to get some more up to date info on its whereabouts

so thanks for letting us know about it   

 

[Weird Car]

46 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

 

oooh awesome! I have known of NNO246C for a fair old while!

but I have never known where it ended up! (it was sold a good few years back and reportedly in Germany somewhere but I never been to verify that)

 

so its awesome to get some more up to date info on its whereabouts

so thanks for letting us know about it   

 

Out of curiosity how are you getting on with the updated survivor list? I know you said you were trying to find a good way to re format the page but I was just wondering if you’d made any progress what with all the mk12s and model 70s that have sold/ been discovered recently.

[Mally]

On 12/12/2022 at 11:57 PM, High Jetter said:

It seems that Invacar is a universal language! Please do not let that stop you posting. 

There are at least a couple of English on here that we find difficult to understand at times.

[LightBulbFun]

8 minutes ago, Harriytait said:

Out of curiosity how are you getting on with the updated survivor list? I know you said you were trying to find a good way to re format the page but I was just wondering if you’d made any progress what with all the mk12s and model 70s that have sold/ been discovered recently.

yeah still need to figure out what how I want go about things exactly

id quite like to implement an Ians bus stop type history log for each for vehicle, something like so

 

but I still need to figure out which data points I want to/can include etc and it will be quite the big undertaking as well

at some point ill knuckle down and sort it all out! but not sure when, could be tomorrow could be in a few months time LOL

[AnnoyingPentium]

1 minute ago, LightBulbFun said:

yeah still need to figure out what how I want go about things exactly

id quite like to implement an Ians bus stop type history log for each for vehicle, something like so

 

but I still need to figure out which data points I want to/can include etc and it will be quite the big undertaking as well

at some point ill knuckle down and sort it all out! but not sure when, could be tomorrow could be in a few months time LOL

From an organisational standpoint for a survivor's list...

Hyperlink all the reg plates, which would then take you to a separate page with photographs and information about the car. 

Then again, that's going to be one hell of a job to sort out, I'm sure.

[High Jetter]

2 hours ago, Mally said:

There are at least a couple of English on here that we find difficult to understand at times.

A couple is only 2 tho...

[warren t claim]

[LightBulbFun]

4 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

Snap!  

On 29/05/2021 at 11:36, sdkrc said:

Saw NPM934R in the Ipswich stadium in a 1982 documentary on football league bankruptcy. Doesn't look like it's survived after a cursory mot-check

 

On 29/05/2021 at 11:48, LightBulbFun said:

Oh cool thats not a shot I have seen before, nice find!

thanks for shearing  

indeed sadly its not a known survivor but NPM938R just a few cars later is  

 

[warren t claim]

Sorry for the repost. I was watching the same documentary and just screengrabbed a picture.

[egg]

On 14/12/2022 at 20:47, LightBulbFun said:

so its awesome to get some more up to date info on its whereabouts

and looking very accepted among the other Microcars, New Map Solyto, Frisky, Peel (£££££) etc.

[Asimo]

Where is this filmed please?

 

[Weird Car]

10 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Where is this filmed please?

 

It’s originally from here 

https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-probe-alf-morris-announces-the-recalling-of-the-invacar-1976-online

 

i uploaded it to my YouTube channel the other day incase the original site was closed or the video became unwatchable I wanted it to be available in more than one place, it looks like someone has put a rather terrible edit of it on TikTok lol

[LightBulbFun]

14 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Where is this filmed please?

 

its an excerpt from here

https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-probe-alf-morris-announces-the-recalling-of-the-invacar-1976-online

which has Northampton put down as its location, no idea if thats accurate or not!

 

tis one of the few shots/pictures of a Model 64 in action  and a Mk5 one at that

[Eyersey1234]

@LightBulbFun I came across this on YouTube, dont know if you have seen it

 

 

[Weird Car]

5 hours ago, Eyersey1234 said:

@LightBulbFun I came across this on YouTube, dont know if you have seen it

 

 

It’s a video that got bought up a few days ago in this thread, I uploaded it to my YouTube channel and it’s almost gone viral in the last day or so

[Weird Car]

On the subject of me and Invacars, after fitting new rear light clusters to TPE I’m still not getting any activity from them which leads me to believe it’s possibly a bad earth on the car somewhere, did someone happen to have a picture of the wiring diagram? Also what fuses it takes and where to look for them as I can only find a single 5amp fuse under the dash and I’d expect it’d use more than 1 fuse.

[LightBulbFun]

9 hours ago, Harriytait said:

On the subject of me and Invacars, after fitting new rear light clusters to TPE I’m still not getting any activity from them which leads me to believe it’s possibly a bad earth on the car somewhere, did someone happen to have a picture of the wiring diagram? Also what fuses it takes and where to look for them as I can only find a single 5amp fuse under the dash and I’d expect it’d use more than 1 fuse.

Rule of 1 of Fibreglass car electrics, always check your earths! I recommend getting a multimeter and/or test lamp to check the voltages are getting where they are meant to go, they are a handy to thing to have

saves you unnecessarily replacing bits that might be good! (out of curiosity what new lights did you fit?)

 

if you can only find a 5A fuse then someones fucked with things! there should be 3 fuses on a Model 70 of that age, 2 under the dash in a standard lucas fuse holder, a 35A and 25A (and thats their blow rating, so in Modern fuse parlance 17.5A and 12.5A)

and then on the Dynastart charging line should be a Euro type 25A fuse in an inline holder

note that on a Model 70, EVERYTHING goes through these fuses, so thus a dodgy connection on one can cause all sorts of fun issues, from completely dead to cranking with no spark and everything in-between

and here is a wiring diagram  

note that your car being a Post March 1976 one, also has a voltage stabiliser to do with the revised gauges

[warren t claim]

And rule number 2 of fibreglass cars is never expect a decent radio reception.

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, warren t claim said:

And rule number 2 of fibreglass cars is never expect a decent radio reception.

doesn't seem to be a problem for these chaps!  

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-CB-Radio/CB-World/CBWorld_August1981.pdf

[warren t claim]

Nope. the Metrocab was dismal when it came to taxi radio reception.

[red5]

On 12/12/2022 at 7:55 PM, red5 said:

Master cylinder off. Some progress.  Albeit small. 

Stripped, cleaned. 

Cleaned again. 

Refitted. 

Working. Rears again next.  Yay.

[LightBulbFun]

3 hours ago, red5 said:

Stripped, cleaned. 

Cleaned again. 

Refitted. 

Working. Rears again next.  Yay.

Oh! awesome! to hear of progress on REV that is! 

sorry to hear that things are still putting up a fight! but glad to hear the MC is alright at least!

 

I really do wonder if both of the rear flexies have collapsed and are now acting as one way valves? I have heard that happening with others and I have had a couple people suggest it to me to check, so perhaps it might be something worth checking while your in that area so to speak  

 

 

[red5]

[brandersnatch]

[Eyersey1234]

@LightBulbFun  When Invacars were issued by the DHSS what was the criteria for getting one?