Has that Septic at Icon Derelicts gone too far now?

[Exiled_Tat_Gatherer]

I hate to say it - but I modify my classics sometimes (shoot me now I know)...... yes, I want faster, or lower, or stopping better - but NO I don't want a fucking modern. I want the proper wood interior, the styling from the 60's or 70's and the general look n feel of the car I like. The fact I want to utilise improvements in anything/everything since the original was developed is the core of life in general....... when did you upgrade your car/phone/laptop/PC etc.... Jesus.

 

1.  The person/people who can commission the build of any car to THEIR spec (wouldn't you if you had the cash and an 'itch' you needed scratching) will have the funds to pay for anything/everything fixed afterwards should it fail.

 

2.  The garages commisioning specialised parts - will usually get a few of them made or at least have the specs and jigs kept for future use/reference.....

 

3.  Any and EVERY retro car show I've watched has done exactly the same things, upgrade, farm out fabrication (not of everything sometimes) and assembled in kit form..... - how many times have we seen the teams scratching their heads over changing the parts they have as they don't fit together properly.....

 

You cannot watch any retro-modification type show and expect anything else - what did you seriously think was going to be the result?

[Cheggers]

I like it

 

 

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[Junkman]

Needs a supercharger.

[AMC Rebel]

I like this thread, but 90% of it has passed me by.  I am not complaining, just making a pointless observation.

[mk2_craig]

What's a Septic?

[Heidel_Kakao]

What's a Septic?

Septic Tank - Yank AKA an American. Cockney rhyming slang but it confused me for ages.

[Inspector Morose]

Is it this one?

 

or this one?

 

No, hang on. I think I've got it now. This one?

 

No. Not right either. How about this one?

 

No? Oh, hang on. It's the wrong model, you say? Try this one then. Surely it's this one.

 

Woe betide the one who dares sully the Rolls Royce name by modifying it. Eh?

[alcyonecorporation]

I hate to say it - but I modify my classics sometimes (shoot me now I know)...... yes, I want faster, or lower, or stopping better - but NO I don't want a fucking modern. I want the proper wood interior, the styling from the 60's or 70's and the general look n feel of the car I like. The fact I want to utilise improvements in anything/everything since the original was developed is the core of life in general....... when did you upgrade your car/phone/laptop/PC etc.... Jesus.

 

1.  The person/people who can commission the build of any car to THEIR spec (wouldn't you if you had the cash and an 'itch' you needed scratching) will have the funds to pay for anything/everything fixed afterwards should it fail.

 

2.  The garages commisioning specialised parts - will usually get a few of them made or at least have the specs and jigs kept for future use/reference.....

 

3.  Any and EVERY retro car show I've watched has done exactly the same things, upgrade, farm out fabrication (not of everything sometimes) and assembled in kit form..... - how many times have we seen the teams scratching their heads over changing the parts they have as they don't fit together properly.....

 

You cannot watch any retro-modification type show and expect anything else - what did you seriously think was going to be the result?

 

BURN HIM 

[alcyonecorporation]

I would like to take Jay Leno a 'turn-bn' version of a pull-along Airedale Terrier. 
Perhaps then the Crufts boards will set alight in the same manner as this one. 

TL, DR: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[alcyonecorporation]

I LOVE CONTEXT 

 

 

 

I'd have thought Leno would have known that no Cloud came with a 'stick'; they all used GM Hydramatics. 

 

Which are American. And Americans like talking about other people using their parts. Makes them homesick. 

 

For impeachment. 

[flat4alfa]

I'm struggling to understand what's going on, and the first post reads like a foreign language to me  

 

Is this what all the fuss is about?

 

 

If so all I can say is (to me) it looks a great effort, especially being left looking stock.  However if it had a John Lennon paint job I might be smarting.  If it had a Fast & Furious day-glow green paint job inside and out and a Nurburgring decal, I might scream for a bit.

 

If you (we) don't understand this sort of thing then perhaps live in the US and/or Aus for a bit to come around to the mindset.  When I lived in Aus, the fitting a 350 Chev motor to a Jaguar in place of a dead six or twelve was par for the course, having aftermarket mounts and adaptors off-the-shelf meant the cars lived on rather than just left to rot as they tend to in the UK.  Etc.

 

[rml2345]

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That looks superb!

Aside from the fact that the thing was not that rare, a bit knackered and generally unloved the Series 1 Clouds have the least desireable mechanical spec so although the six is rather more refined even Royce binned it for a 6.2 V8 in 1959. If they can do that why can't someone else?

Get a grip Felly man, it's not like it's the booted Metro or something worth foaming about.

[cms206]

Sometimes... just sometimes... I wish Felly would make a post without using some preschoolers attempt at rhyming slang.

 

Septic? Jay Chino?

 

 

FWIW I reckon it sounds the absolute tits. Rolls Royce stuff does the square root of fuck all for me and that actually works for me.

 

112%/10.

 

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[djimbob]

Thanks to Louise I watched the show, and I have to say I quite liked what they'd done!

 

Personally I would have liked a quieter exhaust note for true sleeper fun, and of course long journeys are no fun with that much row, and a set of classic looking wheel trims and as they mentioned, big rubber old school tyres, again for comfort and handling, and you'd have a very useable motor for everyday jaunts

[vulgalour]

It's like watching a badly-dubbed 70s cop show, the engine noise is so utterly out of place.  That's my favourite part about it.

[bunglebus]

I watched that last night, normally I find Leno a bit dull but that Rolls had me grinning from ear to ear. If it was mine (not likely) I'd have a set of polished beauty rings made for the wheels, and waft around in it looking for modern cars with JDM stickers to annihilate. 

The car was rotting away on a drive, it would still be there now without Icon. I can't say one way or another what his build quality is like (other than it's better than mine), but I like his style...

[Split_Pin]

Its the Silver Spirit, rollered black, with a Cummins 6BT and vertical exhaust stack protruding through the bonnet that does it for me.

[alcyonecorporation]

PEACE

[chaseracer]

Its the Silver Spirit, rollered black, with a Cummins 6BT and vertical exhaust stack protruding through the bonnet that does it for me.

 

So WOOD.

[Junkman]

Leave it to the Belgians.

 

[dollywobbler]

What a ridiculous country, to ban cruise control but not that.

[bunglebus]

That one really is in poor taste. At least some of the Silver Shadows are tongue in cheek, that one seems to be someone's idea of a hot rod.

[bunglebus]

 

Shame it got left to fester after this

 

 

[UltraWomble]

Have I entered some kind of parallel universe: toosavvy's post I understand. The rest? Not so much.

Not just you Louise - Im wondering what da fook .

 

Mind you Im not paying a lot of attention as Im trying to argue the toss with someone on faceboolocks who insists that having half an onion in a dish will stop her catching the flu.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Silver Clouds are fucking horrible things anyway. When a 1949 Cadillac had a proper OHV V8 and power hydro brakes etc, who'd want some pompous Crewe lash up with a handbuilt neolithic straight six engine fit only for an upmarket tractor and rod operated drums FFS.

 

The Silver Shadow brought Rolls into the modern era, only the fifties Bentley Continental is reprieved because it's so pretty unlike the godawful Rolls heap.

 

Show me a concours BMW Baroque Angel and I'll have a crate small block Chevy, THM400 and a Jag IRS in there in no time.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Like it. Good video.

 

Leno also thinks the 1949 Cadillac is a far better car................

 

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I saw a Beacham E-Type the other day. It was bloody awful. Modern door handles, mirrors and interior crammed into an old E-Type. It was like catching your grandma in fishnet stockings and a basque. Or even worse. Your grandad.

 

Might still have been better than the Mk2 though, where the entire lovely interior has been replaced by modernity. Which doesn't fit.

 

 

Could be worse. Much, much worse. Some grovelling Jaguar specialist is now turning this shit out:

[dollywobbler]

To be fair, there is only one of those. And it looks rather better in the metal, I have to say. I'll stick to chrome bumpers though thanks.

[MrDuke]

As a completely random aside, in The Bridge, Iain Banks spends rather a lot of time explaining in detail fantasising about how the main character he'd customise a Mk2 (I think) Jag, which then gets destroyed on the titular structure. Actually, that's kind of a spoiler. Sorry, as you were.....

[Felly Magic]

Jay is officially the head of the more money than brains club, and he won't touch anything Ward builds, because he can tell from 500 yards they aren't up to scratch, and his own workshop can build better for much cheaper, Ward is a slick salesman that is a certainty, but what he produces is frankly poor in execution, his addiction to the LS engine is so severe it is unreal, it's not the best engine by a long shot, it's cheap, which is why he uses it so often. A far better subject for a crass hot rod would have been a Bentley, as they were much more caddish cars with a sporting flavour. His client base will vanish unless he actually moves with the times, but he seems to be stuck in a loop, there is a finite number of people who will buy stuff like this, so eventually he will end up going bang,he has a huge stockpile of cars in his yard, which to all intents and purposes is dead money, because a customer has to want that specific car, which he will no doubt lean on potential clients to buy, and as the cars just sit outside in the open, they are just going to deteriorate further, meaning much more work. For wealthy folk on the west coast of America, where the internal combustion engine is rapidly becoming the enemy, he really could do with looking at electric propulsion, buying up crashed Teslas could be a viable option, even the idiot Brewer and the tall not mechanic electrified a Maserati for not a lot of dollars really, and electric powered VWs are big business in California now too. I don't think Ward is thinking towards the future, just the 'here & now', and how to exploit the rich and stupid.