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If I had the money I would. A couple more and outdo the Invacars. 😁

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somewhatfoolish Rank: Talbot Tagora

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  On 20/05/2021 at 20:13, djoptix said:

This image

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makes it look like there is a centre diff going out to the centre wheels, and longitudinal driveshafts to the front and rear wheels...

Seems to me that the simplest solution for road driving would be to just remove the longitudinal driveshafts and make it 2wd with only the centre wheels driven. That would enable you to commute in it/drive into the ULEZ.

Put them back in for off road excursions.

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Looking at this detailed* engineering drawing fitting viscous couplings might be possible fore and aft of the middle axle, or even some kind of air or hydraulic locker.  Not a trivial task though.

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It does give me some hope that there are still places in this joke of a country where I can afford to buy a house and which aren't at latitudes such that I risk having my daffodils nommed by polar bears.

Heidel_Kakao Rank: Renault 16

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Bought myself a genny 😀 Should hopefully run my welder. It's 3.4KVA.

Starting to take YouTube more seriously again.

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LightBulbFun Rank: Talbot Tagora

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  On 21/05/2021 at 15:49, Heidel_Kakao said:

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Bought myself a genny 😀 Should hopefully run my welder. It's 3.4KVA.

Starting to take YouTube more seriously again.

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Generators always fun to have :) 

but Im not sure if you are aware, but it might not work for welding sadly

I wont get into the details but as @Six-cylinder and @Talbot (IIRC!) found out recently, when you try and weld on one, the generator cant react fast enough to the sudden and large on off load a welder has, so the welder is never able to strike an arc properly

from discussions in the Virtual FoD Zoom calls we think a large bank of Batteries and a Large big fuck off DC to mains voltage inverter would be a better bet for welding away from the grid :) 

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  On 21/05/2021 at 15:49, Heidel_Kakao said:

should hopefully run my welder.

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If Tig, possibly.  If Mig, I very much doubt it.  The extremely choppy on-off nature of the load is incompatible with a smaller generator.  It's nearly impossible to strike the arc, and when it does strike, it's like welding at 20% power.

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  On 20/05/2021 at 21:25, djoptix said:

Yes, that sounds very plausible. It would be a shame if you couldn't easily swap them back in for off-road fun. But I guess for a show machine it would make sense to convert to 2wd.

Surprising that they didn't manufacture it in (switchable 2wd or some other way of avoiding driveline self destruction when driven on a road) , but as someone said, that's military procurement... 

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Never intended to go on road.

Used to supply BAOR/Allies when the USSR took all the bridges out. Bear in mind 'wind-up' is really torsion followed by shear. Stuff will break. Quickly.

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  On 21/05/2021 at 20:13, Mally said:

@Barry Cade Will it fit on your 

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My Iveco can carry Anything! It's foot down Friday after all 😄

djoptix Rank: Renault 16

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  On 21/05/2021 at 18:43, red5 said:

Never intended to go on road.

Used to supply BAOR/Allies when the USSR took all the bridges out. Bear in mind 'wind-up' is really torsion followed by shear. Stuff will break. Quickly.

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Yes, "wind-up" does sound quite gentle. When I looked up what it actually means, the thought of those gears and shafts stressing against each other actually makes me feel quite anxious.

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Heidel_Kakao Rank: Renault 16

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  On 21/05/2021 at 20:14, red5 said:

I assume you have the correct licence category chap?

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Is that for me? Not currently but I will be getting my C license soon.

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You could fit seats in the bed and re-register it as an open top bus, then you could drive it on a car licence.

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LightBulbFun Rank: Talbot Tagora

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  On 21/05/2021 at 22:28, wuvvum said:

You could fit seats in the bed and re-register it as an open top bus, then you could drive it on a car licence.

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amusingly while somewhat understandably GSJ413 is registered as "Special purpose" 

GVO282J is actually registered as a crane :)

wonder where that puts it on the the ole licensing/Road Traffic act spectrum!

Heidel_Kakao Rank: Renault 16

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  On 21/05/2021 at 22:49, LightBulbFun said:

GVO282J is actually registered as a crane :)

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Where does it say that?

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  On 21/05/2021 at 23:13, Heidel_Kakao said:

Where does it say that?

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https://www.vehiclecheck.co.uk/?vrm=GVO282J

https://carsgt.co/vehicle-check/GVO282J

and on the V5 under Body type 

I doubt its a problem, and may even be advantageous  if cranes do have exemptions from certain licensing requirements, but I have not looked into the what the rules are for cranes, so I cant say whats what exactly

but if it does turn out to be a problem I doubt you would have much problem changing the Body type to "Special purpose"

(Id like to see someone try and argue that a stalwart is NOT a special purpose vehicle LOL)

 

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  On 20/05/2021 at 20:49, Heidel_Kakao said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seadoo-jet-ski-/124732777227?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

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It's for riding the Jet Ski I am currently high bidder on. I can lift it in and out with the HIAB* 😀

*To be pedantic to myself it is actually an Atlas crane not a HIAB.

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I got outbid on the Jet Ski, not prepared to pay over £500. The Stolly isn't going to be swimming for a while so I will just get one later. They are probably cheaper in Winter too.

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  On 21/05/2021 at 23:26, LightBulbFun said:

https://www.vehiclecheck.co.uk/?vrm=GVO282J

https://carsgt.co/vehicle-check/GVO282J

and on the V5 under Body type 

I doubt its a problem, and may even be advantageous  if cranes do have exemptions from certain licensing requirements, but I have not looked into the what the rules are for cranes, so I cant say whats what exactly

but if it does turn out to be a problem I doubt you would have much problem changing the Body type to "Special purpose"

(Id like to see someone try and argue that a stalwart is NOT a special purpose vehicle LOL)

 

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Cool 😎I have never owned a crane before lol.

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Looks like the C license I am getting will be fine either way.

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Dead_E23 Rank: Renault 16

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  On 21/05/2021 at 16:23, Talbot said:

If Tig, possibly.  If Mig, I very much doubt it.  The extremely choppy on-off nature of the load is incompatible with a smaller generator.  It's nearly impossible to strike the arc, and when it does strike, it's like welding at 20% power.

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There are such things as welder-generators, which would be a pretty cool thing to have.   Most of the ones on eBay for sensible money seem to need a repair, which suggests they either lead a pretty hard life or they're unreliable things.  I suspect it's the former.

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  On 22/05/2021 at 15:07, Dead_E23 said:

There are such things as welder-generators, which would be a pretty cool thing to have.   Most of the ones on eBay for sensible money seem to need a repair, which suggests they either lead a pretty hard life or they're unreliable things.  I suspect it's the former.

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You were all right the generator I bought is no good for welding 😞 Still going to keep it though as I like it. Yes there are welder generators.....

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sw200dc-welder-petrol-generator

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sw200ac-welder-petrol-generator

Do I need AC or DC?

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somewhatfoolish Rank: Talbot Tagora

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  On 22/05/2021 at 17:26, Heidel_Kakao said:

You were all right the generator I bought is no good for welding 😞 Still going to keep it though as I like it. Yes there are welder generators.....

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sw200dc-welder-petrol-generator

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sw200ac-welder-petrol-generator

Do I need AC or DC?

I will get one once my house has sold.

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They're specialist and complicated bits of kit and priced accordingly; probably better to just get a big enough ordinary generator to cope with your sparkly stick.

  

  On 22/05/2021 at 17:28, Heidel_Kakao said:

Not interested lol, I prefer the MK2 😀

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What's the difference?

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  On 22/05/2021 at 17:26, Heidel_Kakao said:

You were all right the generator I bought is no good for welding 😞 Still going to keep it though as I like it. Yes there are welder generators.....

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sw200dc-welder-petrol-generator

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/sw200ac-welder-petrol-generator

Do I need AC or DC?

I will get one once my house has sold.

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I think I would go with the Large bank of DC batteries and a really big 5-8kw Mains inverter

as that is a lot more versatile then a dedicated welder generator

for example once your done welding you could plug in a kettle and make yourself a nice cup of tea :) 

(and if it all blows up you could probably use the string of batteries themselves as a crude arc welder LOL)

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  On 22/05/2021 at 19:32, somewhatfoolish said:

 What's the difference?

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The windows open on a MK1, MK2's have bigger windows and wipers for all three. MK1's have a gated shifter etc....

Heidel_Kakao Rank: Renault 16

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  On 22/05/2021 at 19:38, LightBulbFun said:

I think I would go with the Large bank of DC batteries and a really big 5-8kw Mains inverter

as that is a lot more versatile then a dedicated welder generator

for example once your done welding you could plug in a kettle and make yourself a nice cup of tea :) 

(and if it all blows up you could probably use the string of batteries themselves as a crude arc welder LOL)

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I would like a big bank of batteries in Stolly anyway so I can operate the crane without running the engine (currently not possible, will be modified) for a good period.

So on board welder?

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There are kits available for PTO welders(really just a big alternator with a box of tricks) or the DIY-inclined can monkey about with lorry or bus alternators.

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Talbot Rank: Isuzu Florian

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  On 22/05/2021 at 15:07, Dead_E23 said:

There are such things as welder-generators, which would be a pretty cool thing to have.   Most of the ones on eBay for sensible money seem to need a repair, which suggests they either lead a pretty hard life or they're unreliable things.  I suspect it's the former.

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They are quite complex things, and I believe have some fairly clever control system in them to ensure the choppy nature of welding is dealt with.  I'm sure I heard once that they use a bank of very large capacitors on the DC side of system to cope.  I'd bet that newer ones have a fairly decent inverter in there too somewhere.

Pricey.  Cheap ones are cheap for a reason... they usually need a very expensive repair.

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