Estate(s) of the nation

[Heidel_Kakao]

Looks familiar!image.png

Yeah I was going to put it in backstory post but I owe you a finders fee I was not looking for one of these because I thought none existed still so your post was literally how I became aware of it so you are directly responsible for this!  

I would not be parking that where the Proton is!!!!!!

Hopefully my desire for unit storage now becomes apparent

[Alexg]

Beyond Mega. Nice

[mat_the_cat]

This is not exactly as it left the factory nearly 50 years ago though, originally it would have had a 2 Litre L20A straight six, manual steering, manual column shift transmission and drum brakes all round. It now has a 2.6 L26 and three speed auto from a 1976 Cedric 330, power steering, MSA exhaust manifold, twin 240Z carbs overhauled by Ztherapy in the USA, front ventilated discs from a diesel 430 Cedric and disc brake rear axle from the same with uprated brake booster to suit. Oh and a 2 way electric sunroof from a Mercedes 190, that's most of it I think.

 

So sensitive upgrades using all Nissan parts that make it much more usable and all mods I would probably have thought about doing but never actually bothered, apart from the sunroof maybe as I never use the things but hey I will let that slide

 

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any better!

[barrett]

That is interesting, thanks. Unusual to read such a well-written article on Japanese cars and design. I was interested to see Shozo Sato's name mentioned - I know Shoto's son quite well and know a little about his background, but I've never seen anything 'in print' actually ascribing his name to a specific design. It seems like, finally, Japanese car companies are being a bit more forthcoming about who was responsible for certain designs. This past opacity is touched on in the above article but not really - it's a deeply ingrained cultural phenomenon: a company's product is a group effort and not the result of an individual, so no individual would be credited with its design.

 

I just Google the name and this article popped up, with some great period images. Sato later worked for Kawasaki, developing a kei car project that was never built, amd later still as a professor of automotive design. He also owned (probably) the only Panhard 24CT in Tokyo in the '60s.

http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/nissan-legend-shozo-sato-design-illustrates-culture

 

(sorry for totally hijacking this thread H_K)

[Heidel_Kakao]

On 03/12/2017 at 23:09, barrett said:

That is interesting, thanks. Unusual to read such a well-written article on Japanese cars and design. I was interested to see Shozo Sato's name mentioned - I know Shoto's son quite well and know a little about his background, but I've never seen anything 'in print' actually ascribing his name to a specific design. It seems like, finally, Japanese car companies are being a bit more forthcoming about who was responsible for certain designs. This past opacity is touched on in the above article but not really - it's a deeply ingrained cultural phenomenon: a company's product is a group effort and not the result of an individual, so no individual would be credited with its design.

I just Google the name and this article popped up, with some great period images. Sato later worked for Kawasaki, developing a kei car project that was never built, amd later still as a professor of automotive design. He also owned (probably) the only Panhard 24CT in Tokyo in the '60s.

http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/nissan-legend-shozo-sato-design-illustrates-culture

(sorry for totally hijacking this thread H_K)

No worries about hijacking dude, this is my first Nissan/Datsun so any information gratefully received.

http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/1960.html

Something I find interesting, when you visit the Nissan Heritage site there are no estates listed, now maybe they just hate wagons or maybe just maybe Nissan don't even have one of these themselves? Perhaps I will ask them once I get round to doing a pilgrimage journey to Japan at some point.

[Junkman]

Hitachi clones built under license to be pedantic, metric though so imperial SU parts are not compatible.

 

Hihihihi...

[Junkman]

That's a seriously nice looking car. I guess they weren't sold over here at all?

 

One of them certainly was. I watched it being raced at the Swaffham Earth Shaker.

[hairnet]

It cost approx 1200 times what I paid for my Proton..... That is without the cost of collection which I am treating as a holiday lol. No idea what it would be worth in the UK assuming there was actually one for sale. At this point I have no intention of ever selling this car so cost is almost irrelevant, my thought process was, I want this, I can afford this, I am having this!

thats exactly what its about

 

if you want and you can

 

do it

 

had that with visa

 

want.

 

fetch.

 

got.

 

what are they odds of finding the uk car with that reg and buying it for ultimate banzai

[beko1987]

Should we just shut down collection threads until at least the end of the year? Nobodies topping this for a while.

What if Hendry finds his Ford escort though? I do agree though, renault 16s driven back from France won't do it now, the shitefest international 2018 contingent have just had their bar raised...

[hairnet]

someone was asking about the plates

 

i wondered too

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Finland

 

the first pic on the history

 

maybe its like that for stuff as old as that

[somewhatfoolish]

You are a WINNAR. That pez shot is TEH SECKS.

[vulgalour]

Finland, Finland, Finland...

 

 

Excellent adventure and what an immense vehicle.

[captain_70s]

Buying an elderly and rare Datsun estate and driving it back from Finland?

 

Congrats on winning Autoshite 2017, and so late in the year!

[Junkman]

And there is me, moaning a few days ago that collection threads of epicness are going out of fashion, this forum, etc. etc.

 

Once you are past Hamburg, you'll follow approximately the trail we did with the R16, only that we only started at that point,

whereas you'll wish it were already over.

 

Transcontinental cruising with half century old chod just bloody rules!

I can't understand for the life of me why not more people are doing it.

 

On a different note, the GGG's tame mechanic owns this:

 

 

He installed a 2.6 litre Z car engine and a three speed auto box of a 280 Laurel.

However, his car has a carby with a glass window to check whether there is pez in it,

a feature that makes every P6 V8 owner full with envy for obvious reasons.

 

I bet he would be happy to avail you his knowledge/parts/spannerism should you ever need anything.

[Sir Snipes]

That picture makes me wonder if that Johnny geezer on RR ever “finished” his Cedric (laurel?).

[Tamworthbay]

Autoshite can close now, it’s work is done. Cedric just has to be the coolest name ever and I can’t believe anyone will ever top this.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

That picture makes me wonder if that Johnny geezer on RR ever “finished” his Cedric (laurel?).

I always wondered what happened to that car. It ended up with another J fan on there iirc, who specialised in decent rebuilds and resprays. I'm 99% sure he got it finished under his ownership and it looked fantastic. Not sure where the cat went after that, though...

[5speedracer]

Anyone got plans to buy a Gloria after reading this? I'm amazed this has survived, no salted roads in Finland?

 

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[Heidel_Kakao]

An exciting start to the day, I began by having my second ever sauna (my first was yesterday at the sellers house but that one involved beer and rolling in snow!) and managed to lock myself out the sauna with my key card and clothes etc still inside so had to run to reception on the ship and get a spare key card to get back in. I had a towel while locked out so embarrassment was averted.

Then I got the Cedric fired up, it burst into life with judicious use of the choke, I had to scrape the ice off the windows, I could swear I packed a scraper but couldn't find it so had to rely on the fallback position of using a credit card.

I couldn't resist being a bit naughty and carefully reversing up to my hotel along the tight dockside to get a picture.

I have boarded the ferry to Stockholm and will be relaxing for a few hours, luckily I have reading material in the form of an English owners manual that came with the car:)

Taken when walking back from the bar

Saying goodbye to Finland, I hope to return one day!

I want to live here

I heart reading period owners manuals, expect some nuggets of the day over the coming week.

[tooSavvy]

Ha! BORE..... No such word* in this thread!

 

*OK.. EuroTunnel

 

 

TS

[wuvvum]

Your purchase of a DATSUN places you in a distinguished family of automobile owners and drivers.

 

Yes.  Yes it does.

[dollywobbler]

That brown Laurel nearly tipped me over the edge! Good to know there's still one that looks nice and stock. I know someone with an identical car down in the south who prefers a few more cosmetic mods. He's already trying to talk Heidel into suspension lowering...

 

This thread is beyond exciting!

[Heidel_Kakao]

Anyone got plans to buy a Gloria after reading this? I'm amazed this has survived, no salted roads in Finland?

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They generally don't salt roads in Finland especially in the sticks, even so the photo above is how it looked about 10 years ago before it was restored by a previous owner, the USB thumb drive has a shit ton more photos of the restoration process.

[Junkman]

That brown Laurel nearly tipped me over the edge!

 

It's a Cedric.

[danthecapriman]

If I am to understand this correctly.

 

Finland. This is a cold country. It snows and gets very icy a lot. Yet no salt on the roads and no story's of dead nun or kittens.

 

United Kingdom. Not really very cold by comparison. It rains every day all year round, only difference being the temperature of said rain depending on season. Yet we seem to be terribly fond of spreading salt in ridiculous quantities all over the sodding place! Go figure...

[Heidel_Kakao]

Winter tyres are a legal requirement in Finland from 1st December to end of February each year and I believe the rest of Scandinavia. I had never driven on winter tyres before and it's amazing how good they are, you almost need to provoke it to break traction.

[danthecapriman]

Winter tyres are a legal requirement in Finland from 1st December to end of February each year and I believe the rest of Scandinavia. I had never driven on winter tyres before and it's amazing how good they are, you almost need to provoke it to break traction.

I'd much much rather do the same over here than have the councils shovelling tons of salt all over the place. Tossers!

[andy18s]

If I am to understand this correctly.

 

Finland.

Many hours spent being taught how to drive in all weather conditions,day and night

 

United Kingdom.

Shown how to fudge a way though a test,then left to get on with it.

Efa

[Junkman]

If I am to understand this correctly.

 

Finland. This is a cold country. It snows and gets very icy a lot. Yet no salt on the roads and no story's of dead nun or kittens.

 

United Kingdom. Not really very cold by comparison. It rains every day all year round, only difference being the temperature of said rain depending on season. Yet we seem to be terribly fond of spreading salt in ridiculous quantities all over the sodding place! Go figure...

 

Salt doesn't do anything below -4 degrees C. Hence there is no point of using it in countries where it's colder.

Salt also doesn't do anything when there is snow.

Also see the Alpine region. Salt is not used in Switzerland, Austria, the French Alps and the Italian Alps.

Not because they are so keen on preserving the half arsed shite there, it's because salt is useless there.

 

Salt is required in the UK, because what you'd have without it is freezing rain. Not even the best Winter tyre would stick to that.

Seen the hilarious videos with cars sliding down the slightest incline, then slamming into a house?

That's what you'd have in the UK without salt. Trust me, would they not spread salt in the UK, a lot more cars would rot away.

In the scrapyards.

[SiC]

It doesn't help our weather is so variable. Repeated freeze, thaw cycles plays havoc to stuff outside. One day it can be bright, sunny and frozen with the next being dull, wet and warmer. Basically our weather is too unpredictable.

 

It does make a great arena for product longevity testing though.