Who has/what is the most undesirable car on here?

[nisfan]

What you havent been keeping up to date with my thread? tut tut haha

Yeah its now 'aldi white' not rollered this time i used a compressor

[KruJoe]

There's someone on here who has admitted to paying actual money for a Nissan JPuke...

Each to their own etc, but I'd find IBS more desirable.

[Junkman]

Let's play this game properly for a moment.

 

1971 280 SE, 8,600 mile original, needs total restoration, but not a hopeless basket case. Lots of really vital spares included. £2,500

1971 Rover P6 V8, 26,000 mile survivor. Needs a bit of cosmetics, but is fundamentally sound. £4,500

1979 Mobylette. AV89 Caudron, no less. Currently run on German insurance tag, but V5C and UK reg included. Needs lights sorting for MoT. £500

1996 Range Rover. 4.6 HSE, long MoT, deffo not the usual rubbish. £ 2,500

1997 Piggo 405 2.0 auto estate. Was Exec, but has been converted to bearable upholstery. £1,000

 

Anyone? Anyone?? Anyone???

 

See.

[Yoss]

Yoss I love zts especially 190s and yellow is wow. Definitely not high (or low?) On the scale here!

 

 

Yes I like too but I think it very much falls into this category. Big petrol in poorly painted (it looks good from a couple of feet back but don't look too closely) primary colour needing a couple of big jobs makes it very undesirable as far as the normal public are concerned.

 

I bought it BECAUSE it was yellow but I am in the minority. If it was a grey diesel it would be worth more but why would you buy a grey diesel MG? Seems wrong to me.

[sierraman]

I don't know about derv Mondeos, round here a good one with a bit of life left in it will go for an easy £7-800 on a 53-54 plate. It's the petrol that's tricky to sell... dearer on tax, worse on fuel, usually smoking like fuck.

[New POD]

I know I bought an unfashionable High Mileage 3.2 V6 petrol beast off a member here, but I'm guessing, that particular member, thought a triple rollover lottery win more likely. 

I can't see that if I ever come to sell it, that anyone would want it.

Maybe I can keep it, until it becomes a Classic ?

Only given that I've done 6000 miles in 3 months, the miles will be mega.

 

 

[twosmoke300]

Mk3 golfs are for winners

 

Apart from the lack of a fuel warning light which leads to extremely embarrassing breakdown*s

If only they had some sort of gauge arrangement to allow you to know the level of fuel in the tank !

[Tamworthbay]

Let's play this game properly for a moment.

 

1971 280 SE, 8,600 mile original, needs total restoration, but not a hopeless basket case. Lots of really vital spares included. £2,500

1971 Rover P6 V8, 26,000 mile survivor. Needs a bit of cosmetics, but is fundamentally sound. £4,500

1979 Mobylette. AV89 Caudron, no less. Currently run on German insurance tag, but V5C and UK reg included. Needs lights sorting for MoT. £500

1996 Range Rover. 4.6 HSE, long MoT, deffo not the usual rubbish. £ 2,500

1997 Piggo 405 2.0 auto estate. Was Exec, but has been converted to bearable upholstery. £1,000

 

Anyone? Anyone?? Anyone???

 

See.

Assuming you have missed the decimal point on all of them I will have two from the top and one from the middle please.

[alf892]

There are very few cars that won't sell at the right price though........trouble is that price is often a bit below the seller's expectation.

 

Having said that my dailies usually hang about a bit.......because I'm selling a well maintained old motor and other similar ones are cheaper because they are fucked.......

[cort16]

I've got a juke . They look awful but are suprisingly good to drive and live with. Saying that I can't wait to get rid of mine but that's just because I'm sick of looking at its ugly mug.

[sierraman]

Difficult to sell on...

 

Oddball orphan stuff like Chrysler Neons, Daewoo Leganzas, Fiat Marea - no good reason to own one for most people.

 

Tax - stuff that's both unappealing and expensive to tax i.e. petrol autos in stuff like 406s, Mondeos etc

 

Old hat - Rovers etc probably unjustified but just generally not what people want, out of fashion if you like.

 

High mileage - high miles but wrong car, something like a Merc or a BMW with 200k will likely sell at the right price. An Astra on the other hand...

[DodgyBastard]

I doubt anyone would struggle to give a car away on here. 

[EssDeeWon]

I have an MG ZT-T 190 in almost trophy yellow. I say almost because it's had a respray in a slightly darker shade which is evident when you open the doors. The more you look the more overspray you find.

 

The cambelts are due a change (and there's three of them) and I'm just starting to get a bit of clutch slip so there's £800 of work in those two jobs (or far more in most garages) which is about double what it would be worth with the jobs done so I'm into minus figures here.

 

Thats undesirable on PH but not on here mate, keep it going, it sounds quality fodder.

 

Some overspray over years on end of finance repayments any day.

[EssDeeWon]

I think we have two threads running in to one here.

 

We have new white goods that come with balloon payments the size of Canada versus some quite nice old cars.

 

If were talking about undesirable to the great unwashed then how about a faded yellow 75 with one door mirror held together with black gaffer tape, rear exhaust held up with some rope and numerous electrical extra's that don't work, add to that a scrape down the front N/S.

[rantingYoof]

I know I bought an unfashionable High Mileage 3.2 V6 petrol beast off a member here, but I'm guessing, that particular member, thought a triple rollover lottery win more likely. 

I can't see that if I ever come to sell it, that anyone would want it.

Maybe I can keep it, until it becomes a Classic ?

Only given that I've done 6000 miles in 3 months, the miles will be mega.

 

When I bought the black OMGa for Supernaut, I did so foolishly thinking that the cambelt change in the service history done four years ago made it good for another four years.

 

Skip forwards and I'm feeling quite shit about buying a cambelt-lottery vehicle (THANKS OBAMA VAUXHALL) for someone 400+ miles away who made a judgement call in good faith.

 

While I think V6s OMGas, and particularly the 3.0 and 3.2s, are very desirable to those who know what they are, finding a friendly garage who is willing to invest time into doing a big job on one was bloody difficult. I rang around six or seven garages getting quotes for the cambelt job; my local friendly £40 p/h guy with a two poster lift and a workshop like James May's flatly refused, saying he hadn't the tools to work on 'an old dinosaur like that'.

 

Two other places gave me "go away we don't want your custom" quotes of £600+.

 

Finally it got done (twice, actually) at a rather obscure garage based in a nearby industrial estate, for what I believed was a reasonable sum given the size of the job. Still feel stupid about costing Supernaut an additional wad of cash (and duly stumped up a proportion of it myself) but you can bet I'll not make that mistake again.

 

And it genuinely did get done twice - I think the job was given to a beginner/apprentice at a lower hourly rate to ensure the competitive quote. When I picked it up, the tickover was lumpy and while it drove fine, it didn't feel right when idling. I basically lost my shit all by myself as I felt that Supernaut would endure a twelve hour day of travelling to be handed a broken car and punch me, rightly, in the face. The car was handed back to the garage, and promptly the apprentice I imagine, the next morning when Supernaut was due to be flying down to collect. As a matter of fact, his stupendous detour two hours up north to Inverness to fly down to Birmingham helped me as the garage had it for four hours and handed it back finally with the timing done properly, and the car running as sweet as a nut. I reckon it was stripped right back down again and re-timed; that apprentice probably had no pay that day.

 

Sorry for the thread de-rail.

 

 

 

TL:DR - 'undesirable' cars can also be pigs when it comes to finding a garage willing to carry out the larger jobs

[barefoot]

I have a 1303 fat chick, the most undesirable of all beetles, a '79 bay - not only a late bay, but an actual tin top that I cut a hole in the roof of. Then I have a 944S, the most fragile 944 ever made, a wazzy Scirocco GT with just 75 gasping horses and a bottom of the range, cooking 3.2 Jaguar - aicmfp.

[SiC]

When I bought the black OMGa for Supernaut, I did so foolishly thinking that the cambelt change in the service history done four years ago made it good for another four years.

 

Skip forwards and I'm feeling quite shit about buying a cambelt-lottery vehicle (THANKS OBAMA VAUXHALL) for someone 400+ miles away who made a judgement call in good faith.

 

While I think V6s OMGas, and particularly the 3.0 and 3.2s, are very desirable to those who know what they are, finding a friendly garage who is willing to invest time into doing a big job on one was bloody difficult. I rang around six or seven garages getting quotes for the cambelt job; my local friendly £40 p/h guy with a two poster lift and a workshop like James May's flatly refused, saying he hadn't the tools to work on 'an old dinosaur like that'.

 

Two other places gave me "go away we don't want your custom" quotes of £600+.

 

Finally it got done (twice, actually) at a rather obscure garage based in a nearby industrial estate, for what I believed was a reasonable sum given the size of the job. Still feel stupid about costing Supernaut an additional wad of cash (and duly stumped up a proportion of it myself) but you can bet I'll not make that mistake again.

 

And it genuinely did get done twice - I think the job was given to a beginner/apprentice at a lower hourly rate to ensure the competitive quote. When I picked it up, the tickover was lumpy and while it drove fine, it didn't feel right when idling. I basically lost my shit all by myself as I felt that Supernaut would endure a twelve hour day of travelling to be handed a broken car and punch me, rightly, in the face. The car was handed back to the garage, and promptly the apprentice I imagine, the next morning when Supernaut was due to be flying down to collect. As a matter of fact, his stupendous detour two hours up north to Inverness to fly down to Birmingham helped me as the garage had it for four hours and handed it back finally with the timing done properly, and the car running as sweet as a nut. I reckon it was stripped right back down again and re-timed; that apprentice probably had no pay that day.

 

Sorry for the thread de-rail.

 

 

 

TL:DR - 'undesirable' cars can also be pigs when it comes to finding a garage willing to carry out the larger jobs

Any regular car that has a big-engined and isn't German is awfully difficult to get a cambelt done on. I had the same issue with my Laguna. My friendly local garage phoned up his ex-Renault mate, who said don't touch it. Worse price was £1200 from a specialist. Another specialist quoted £750. Renault dealer said it'd be covered under their £400 any car (except RenaultSport) cambelt deal.

 

However after looking at the belt, its in excellent nick and speaking to someone else who was interested in the car and did some digging, appears to almost certainly have been done.

[sierraman]

It's not usually the belt that gives up, usually the tensioner or water pumps etc seizing.

[sierraman]

I doubt anyone would struggle to give a car away on here.

I don't even think that fact something's completely fucked would put people off either.

[gordonbennet]

Always worth checking the main dealer for quotes for belts.

The 3.4 V6 petrol Collie Landcruiser i've just sold was a bloody complicated belt change (the 3.0 litre Diesel you could DIY half asleep) requiring oddball locking pins etc so i farmed it out, several indy inquiries were around the £500 mark, the local main dealer did it for under £300 all in and chucked a free courtesy car in for the half day they had it.

[EssDeeWon]

^^Good shout regarding asking main dealers for belt changes, just be prepared for the list of other jobs that 'NEED' doing when you go and collect the car. As long as you ignore all that pound sign jibba jabba it can be a good option for belt changes. They will have all the correct tools and offer a decent warranty against the parts I expect.

[chodweaver]

Renault Vel Satis

 

That is all

[gordonbennet]

^^Good shout regarding asking main dealers for belt changes, just be prepared for the list of other jobs that 'NEED' doing when you go and collect the car. As long as you ignore all that pound sign jibba jabba it can be a good option for belt changes. They will have all the correct tools and offer a decent warranty against the parts I expect.

 

Yes that was an issue, since the new lot took over there the last thing you must let the new owners have is your telephone numbers, eff me persistant sods or what.

 

I needed a dash bulb for the Collie, right odd little bugger, sneaked in ninja like to the parts counter and found a decent feller on the parts desk, he agreed to post the bulb when it came in (yes that rare) and just smiled and nodded when i begged him to keep our address secret from sales/service admin, sure enough he was good as his word, bulb arrived a few days later and not a single phone call or text reminding us of mots services new car offers etc etc.

 

Assuming its beyond reasonable DIY, if competitive i'd rather the main dealer did such jobs purely for the back up in case it goes tits up down the line, plus you know it won't be the cheapest shit parts that go in.

[SiC]

Renault Vel Satis

 

That is all

Not on 'ere. Plenty of people would love one - including me!

[Jams]

I was going to put my little yellow waterproof***** smart car up for this prize.

 

But it's now grey and a few have asked me to part with him

[cort16]

The citroen c5 has to be a contender. Weird suspension, the styling of  1 1/2 potato's stuck together and a dull interior make them massively unappealing even if they are pretty compitent.

[Six-cylinder]

It seems to me all good running cars with some MOT have leap in price during the coarse of the year, in spite of falling Scrap values. In March I bought a perfectly good running Volvo 740 estate with 9 moths MOT for £159 because I was bored at work, I am bored at work again today and can't find anything in that price range!

[rantingYoof]

Now you mention it, I think 17-Coffees got the best deal on his LS400 'belt change from the Lexus dealership.

 

I guess the higher hourly rate is counterbalanced by the knowledge and reduced time it takes to complete?

 

[/rose tints]

[ShiteRider]

My old work had a diesel mercedes vaneo.......how that turd got signed off for production god only knows.

[chodweaver]

Renault Vel Satis

 

That is all

 

Not on 'ere. Plenty of people would love one - including me!

 

Well, it's still up for grabs. I never cancelled the raffle, in the hope that there would be a resurgence of interest and the remaining tickets would go, but they haven't, possibly due to the large number of other cheaper raffles that came and went this month (hence my concluding that it is properly undesirable  ). It can be bought outright too, as per the raffle thread.