Project Domes shonky autos - Grand Cherokee departs, Kangoo titivation and 911 dug out.

[Tickman]

That sounds like a sensible and not costly thing to try.

[SiC]

This is gonna bore the shit out of most of you but here goes.

 

 

Not at all! Fascinating read that I wouldn't had even realised was a thing.

[yes oui si]

Yeah I would go straight to option c first. Then if it doesn't work there's only one other option.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drop a pd130/150 in it!!!!

I can imagine the wee aluminium beastie would fly with a worked over four pot in it...

[Supernaut]

This is gonna bore the shit out of most of you but here goes.

 

Also what am describing is relevant to the four pot tdi's but can't see a reason it won't work.

 

The problem with the of engines is that the headboard aren't quite man enough for the job, so they relax/stretch a little over time and high mileage causing head lift and symptoms of hgf. So there are three options

 

A. Try re torqueing the head bolts, because if they have stretched, they won't be longer torqued down to the factory spec.

 

B. Have heard of one guy just tightening the headbolts by 90 degrees. Don't like this idea, because you tightening a bolt that may be at the correct tightness and it would worry me that you going to snap the bolt or strip threads.

 

C. This is the method that cured a previous car with hgf symptoms, sold to a family member and still going strong, and also done to my own car to prevent head lift.

 

The standard head bolts are 10.5 tensile strength, and are a little under spec for the job. So replacing the headbolts with pd150 head bolts that are rated at 12.5 tensile strength.

 

It is possible to replace each head bolt one at a time, there is a specific order to do this. And torque to factory values.

I know it sounds a bodge but lots of folk have done this to prevent head lift on high power cars, and it was recommended to me to try on my car before resorting to changing the head gasket, as the bolts are sub £30 and will be even cheaper for you as you won't have as many.

Bit late, though! I think Tayne may have appreciated this advice before he roffled it!

[dome]

If the pd150 bolts are reusable on my engine it's even more of a no brainer as I'd be replacing them anyway when doing the gasket.

[bigfella2]

Yeah, I would have given that a shot.

Tayne/supernaut come on guys, it's not like I did it on purpose. I was replying in the thread trying to get to the bottom of the problem. I think in all that thread I got one, direct reply to my question, and that was a one word answer, which doesn't really help.

 

Then you say you will give it a run and see what happens, then your next reply us hgf is definitely gone it getting scrapped by end of week. Followed by the fastest ever roffle in history!! I was willing to help you with it but didn't really have the opportunity.

Am a bit gutted that you might feel I have done this on purpose.

[Isaac Hunt]

I had a Mastro 1.6 with the s Series engine once. It pissed oil out of the HG by the cambelt. One day I cracked the torque wrench on it and a few pounds more then specified. Ran across all Head Bolts and the leak stopped.

 

I also re-used some stretch bolts on a K Series, but must admit to being fully clenched as I tightened each.

 

Sometimes these things just have to be tried.

[Fraz]

[bigfella2]

On the 11th Nov you anounced it had been officially diagnosed as hgf by your mechanic until then no one was absolutely sure, by close of play on the 11th nearly all the tickets for the roffle had gone. So within a couple of hours from that initial post the roffle had started and nearly sold out by end of play on the 11th.

Not going to go on about fixes till it's confirmed, and no reason to hold anything back from you, never met you, sure your a lovely bloke.

[djoptix]

Well if you do decide to keep it and work your way through its foibles, there is a cheap/free way of sorting the headgasket without resorting to k-seal or steel seal. It's not guaranteed to work but worth a try.

 

Never seen it done on a three cylinder pd, but a 1.4 is essentially a 1.9 with a cylinder lopped off, so can't see why it wouldn't work. Deffo worth trying before resorting to taking the head off.

 

I am disappointed that this solution didn't start with "find a 4 cylinder pd130 engine and cut through the block between cylinders 3 and 4".

[djoptix]

Tell you what though... this does explain why Tayne's local shit garage were keen to buy it.

 

1. "ooh yeah, it's totally fucking fucked mate, HGF all the way. We'll give you £100 for it to save you the hassle of dealing with pikey scrap merchants"

2. Torque up head bolts

3. Sell immediately for giant profit

[Fraz]

We'll give you £100 for it to save you the hassle of dealing with pikey scrap merchants" /quote]

 

Ah... they’ve met Dome too?

[They_all_do_that_sir]

It may still be actual HGF though chaps, let's see how Dome gets on.

 

If it's the same 3 cylinder PD lump in my two Roomsters I find it quite a nice engine to pedal along. The 3 cylinder does make a nice noise (in my head anyway) and it's quite a willing wee thing.

 

Maybe not so much in the tightly packaged Aldi but in the Skoda there's nearly enough space to climb in beside the engine so most jobs are fairly easy access wise.

 

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[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I doubt whoever paid 40-50 quid for a working Audi A2 gives a shit.

[dome]

After a bit of googling it looks like the head bolts on my engine are the same as the PD150-the 75bhp engine I have runs a massive compression ratio which may explain this.

 

It may still be worth a punt though, especially if i can get to the headbolts without removing too much. I think I'll get the coolant gauge working and fix the front suspension first though-it feels pretty horrible.

 

I drove it to work this morning where it will be living temporarily-mainly through lack of space but I may get the chance to work on it during lunchbreaks too.

 

Brimmed the tank and it worked out at 64mpg for the (admittedly slow) run back from Aberdeen. Not bad! 

[Exiled_Tat_Gatherer]

I am disappointed that this solution didn't start with "find a 4 cylinder pd130 engine and cut through the block between cylinders 3 and 4".

 

Me too - as soon as I saw the fix option spoken of I was thinking chopping through with a sawzall styleee………  now awaiting gripping bolt action instead thouhg - next ROFFLE this is mine!

[dome]

I think that during the excitement on here the most important thing has been overlooked.

 

I've ran out of butteries. 

[SiC]

I always read that as batteries. Like a car repairing Energizer Bunny ... same thing I guess but just powered by butties.

[Supernaut]

Oh no. Oh no no no. They aren't butties at all.

 

Butteries are made of, well, lard and salt. Pretty much. Apparently two of them is your full RDA of fat and salt. They truly are a Scottish kind of food.

[dome]

Fucked bush is fucked. This is with the bolt tight

 

 

Annoyingly I'll have to remove the whole arm to replace it.

[Supernaut]

Woah, that is indeed fucked!

[gm]

That bush is shocking, is it worth a quick email to the place I bought the wishbones from ? The invoice should be with the rest of the paperwork.

 

At least you shouldn't need to fight with rusted bolts to swap it over.

[Exiled_Tat_Gatherer]

From above Tayne post - surely not fit for purpose - auto replace…… no pennies involved?

and now GM just above too

[bigfella2]

It's usually the rear console bush that goes first, that's frightening.

[gm]

purchased 5/09/18, fitted by mot garage on 11/09/18 at 181682 miles

 

 

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F262315997634

 

Two year warranty !

[gm]

Let's see if we can get any joy out of this warranty then ?

 

 

Hi,

 

I purchased these wishbones on 5th September and had them fitted by my local garage for the mot on 11th September, mileage 181682. The bush on the drivers side appears to have failed and the wishbone has significant play in it. The car has covered only 2400 miles since fitting, would it be possible to have the wishbone replaced under warranty ?

 

A friend has taken a video of the failed bush

 

https://youtu.be/b5PTeK9dQ30

 

Many thanks,

 

Mark.

 

 

[Tickman]

That bush is awful, so that is why it felt funny on the drive home.

[Split_Pin]

Hopefully the company making/supplying the part will just replace it - seems the most hassle free way for all concerned imo.

[Isaac Hunt]

Hopefully the company making/supplying the part will just replace it - seems the most hassle free way for all concerned imo.

And if they cut up rough, it will be the bush fooker trial

[Bren]

Loads of shite parts now. The cheaper the better.