Any actual serving police persons on here?

[Station]

Just say you're not impersonating a police officer if you get pulled over again. If he is adamant you are, threaten to arrest him and take him to the cells.

[John F]

Can't you tell them that you're impersonating someone that's impersonating a police officer? I don't think that's illegal.

 

Alternatively, replace "POLICE" with "POUCE" and explain that you're a French emergency doctor that specialises in thumb surgery.

[UltraWomble]

I'm considering going to get one of those Polite reflective bibs for when I'm riding on the roads.

 

I'm also definitely not* going to get a blue lende for my high powered flashing front light then turn it in when some tit deliberately drives to close when overtaking me.

Fuck it - why stop there...

[UltraWomble]

And even...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Smiffys-Police-Helmet-Flashing-Siren/dp/B000KE9AUM

[Eddie Honda]

lorries lit up in all kinds of fairy lights

 

Fannies in Scannies.

[Stixy]

I dont watch a lot of telly these days so all I remembr are red ones, like the one Kodak used to have on his car.

 

Who loves ya baby?

 

     

 

Sorry nothing sensible to say 

[dieselnutjob]

Fannies in Scannies.

 

Exactly why are trucks allowed lights on the front which are blue and I'm not?

[Louise2cv]

That's my point. *as far as we can work out* You are.

 

I think Red light are a no-no though, but then again... Lorries?????

 

As long as they don't flash/can't be made to flash, there is no law to say you can't display coloured lights to the front.

 

*apart from the laws of good taste.

[garbaldy]

That's my point. *as far as we can work out* You are.

 

I think Red light are a no-no though, but then again... Lorries?????

 

As long as they don't flash/can't be made to flash, there is no law to say you can't display coloured lights to the front.

 

*apart from the laws of good taste.

can I have that in writing please

[Louise2cv]

can I have that in writing please

No.

 

 

Like I say this is what my serving policeman found out/was told by traffic officers.

 

He's having a look again now though.

 

 

I have found this: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regulation/11/made

 

which I *think* contradicts what I have been told/have said, but not sure.

 

EDIT: I'm arguing with myself now, but having (skim) read that ↑ I can't see anything except "no red light from the front". The rest of the sections involving prohibited coloured light are specifically dealing with "warning beacons" which are defined on the front page as something like able to rotate through 360°.

 

Happy to accept otherwise if someone can spot something else in there though.

 

 

Either way I haven't seen any coloured lights that look good and would be glad to see lorries naked of fairy lights and illuminated football club emblems etc etc.

[OwdChina]

I seem to remember a wagon driver being fined a couple of years back for having a mini Christmas tree on top of the dash that had a red bulb on it.

[Louise2cv]

BTW, if you flick though the sections in the link I put up in my last post bobthebeard, it has all the stuff relating to blue warning beacons not in use/not on emergency vehicles.

[JohnDeere]

So how is every private ambulance service "allowed" to use blue lights, when basically they're just glorified taxis?

[Louise2cv]

The definitions and exemptions are in that document, I believe.

[Des]

The legislation should be simple, red at rear, with optional white for reversing, orange on the corners, white at the front. White being interpreted as the yellowy glow of tungsten, roadside beatings for the slightest deviance. We need this as at present it appears that the intensity of a vehicles headlamps is directly proportional to the drivers lack of observation.

[Junkman]

A lot of people couldn't tell a new Volvo from an old Mercury. Also creeping Americanisation, British police cars look closer to American police cars than they used to.

 

Yeah, it was a lot better when police cars were black Wolseleys with a chromium plated bell on the front bumper

and no funky monkey bubble gum vending machine lights anywhere.

[Faker]

The blue lights can remain permanently fitted, but when the vehicle is being driven on a public road they MUST be covered over or taped up, with the means to power them being disconnected (to prevent accidental activation when driving). A siren can only be fitted for display purposes only. Meaning bolted and wires connected at location where vehicle is being displayed. To drive to a show with a siren wired and fitted would be commiting an offence. Official police livery as in crests or names relating to a specific constabulary are not allowed. You can drive an ex-police car or motorcycle (at say a classic car rally) in full police dress, and not commit the offence of impersonating a police officer. The offence would be complete if you actually engaged with members of the puplic and failed to disclose immediately to anyone who asked, that you were simply in authentic dress, and not an actual police officer. There is no specific legislation with regard to the actual police signage or wording. Nothing stopping me fitting an old style police roof box sign to the roof of a white allegro, and by simply covering the light it can be used on the road.

[Faker]

I don't own the Herald. I think it's smashing. I do own the roof box with blue beacon sitting on the tool box though!

[Louise2cv]

But according to the road vehicle lighting regs:
 

Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
16. No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with–
(a)a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or

(b)a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regulation/16/made

In which

 

"warning beacon" is defined as:

 

 

 

“Warning beacon†A lamp that is capable of emitting a flashing or rotating beam of light throughout 360° in the horizontal plane.

 

 

 

 

 

and  "emergency vehicle" is defined as

Emergency vehicleâ€Â
A motor vehicle of any of the following descriptions–
(a)a vehicle used for fire brigade, ambulance or police purposes;
(b)an ambulance, being a vehicle (other than an invalid carriage) which is constructed or adapted for the purposes of conveying sick, injured or disabled persons and which is used for such purposes;
©a vehicle owned by a body formed primarily for the purposes of fire salvage and used for those or similar purposes;
(d)a vehicle owned by the Forestry Commission or by a local authority and used from time to time for the purposes of fighting fires;
(e)a vehicle owned by the Secretary of State for Defence and used–
(i)for the purposes of the disposal of bombs or explosives,
(ii)by the Naval Emergency Monitoring Organisation for the purposes of a nuclear accident or an incident involving radioactivity,
(iii)by the Royal Air Force Mountain Rescue Service for the purposes of rescue operations or any other emergencies, or
(iv)by the Royal Air Force Armament Support Unit;
(f)a vehicle primarily used for the purposes of the Blood Transfusion Service provided under the National Health Service Act 1977(8.) or under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978(9);
(g)a vehicle used by Her Majesty’s Coastguard or Coastguard Auxiliary Service for the purposes of giving aid to persons in danger or vessels indistress on or near the coast;
(h)a vehicle owned by the British Coal Corporation and used for the purposes of rescue operations at mines;
(i)a vehicle owned by the Royal National Lifeboat Institution and used for the purposes of launching lifeboats; and
(j)a vehicle primarily used for the purposes of conveying any human tissue for transplanting or similar purposes.

[Cavcraft]

Expect I'm wrong, but those blue spotlights on lorries actually light up white when switched on so that's probably why they're not illegal.

 

Can you buy different coloured (not just yellow) headlight paint?

[Louise2cv]

Headlights must be white or yellow.

 

I think.

 

I've turned my brain to mush now.

[UltraWomble]

But according to the road vehicle lighting regs:

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regulation/16/made

 

In which "emergency vehicle" is defined as"

 

(j)a vehicle primarily used for the purposes of conveying any human tissue for transplanting or similar purposes.

 

 

 

Gotcha - so if I offer to transplant my organ into a willing lady does that mean I can use a blue light?

 

I'll get my coat....

[Louise2cv]

There's a joke about a exposing loophole somewhere in there.... but I'm not gonna....

[beko1987]

Fuck it - why stop there...

Didn't know 320 touring owned a bike? Does it glf?

[PiperCub]

Change it to polite.

 

No, that annoys the pointy-headed sharks even more! 

 

A mate at uni had an old CX500 (ask your dad if you don't know what that is) with a big-ass white Rickman fairing on it. He put a fluoro orange stripe down each side and the word 'POLITE' underneath. He got so much shit from plod that it stopped being funny, despite his protests that he was merely showing the world he was a polite chap. 

Was funny for a while though! 

[Bobthebeard]

I have now had some 'almost matching' gloss white plain magnetic strips made to cover up the POLICE wordage on the Mercury for normal use. Better methinks..

[martc]

Fannies in Scannies.

 

Vulvas in Volvos*

 

 

*lorries (not cars, oh no definitely not cars)

[Junkman]

Well, it's actually quite simple.

Do not drive cars resembling cop cars, unless it's this:

 

 

because only then it is assured that nobody will ever mistake you for a real policeman.

[UltraWomble]

Or this...

[Matt]

 

Anyone else watched this programme? I'm just watching an episode for the first time and I can't tell if it's satire or not. Speaking of lighting regs is there any way a private security firm could legitimately use amber lights?