Renault 20 endangered species reintroduction program - a proposal

[Guest Renault20tx]

Hi all, 

 

Now the Vel Satis is gone, I have arrangements to make around bringing this to the UK

 

What I should like to do ultimately is to bring it back, then sell it after a little while to one of your shiters, go back for another......................JUST BECAUSE!!

 

In the UK, some variants of the R20 are down to the very last 1 - for instance the LS automatic. And only the TX auto is in double figures. 

 

So Autoshiters, the cost of buying one of these in MOTable working order is quite high in France (Frogs value their cars more thank us, depreciation is very low). Once the flight over and the cost of the ferry, MOT, drive back North is taken into account, I anticipate these being available to you for around the £1500 mark, dependent on condition, mileage and etc etc etc as always. 

 

Anybody potentially interested? We could maybe go for one of your beloved Raffles, although I suggest maybe the price per number might be a little high if we only use 1 - 59.

[Taff]

if you are here to make money, you may* be on the wrong forum

[MarvinsMom]

cos we are all tight arse skinflints.....

[Six-cylinder]

Sounds a great idea for anybody who wants a Renault 20, they get your time and knowledge to get a good car.

[Guest Renault20tx]

if you are here to make money, you may* be on the wrong forum

I think cover my costs would be a more accurate description - If anybody wanted to bring a 20 over here under their own steam, I would do my damndest to help them for free in any way possible. 

And anybody who would even dream in a million years of running any automatic 1970s Renault, never mind a 20 is destined to die in penury and squalor - but with a smug smile of acheivement on their face. FACT THAT

[panhard65]

I doubt it will be a money maker. Renaults are worth the square root of bugger all. You will find lots of people will want one but none will have any real money. I have imported quite a few over the years including a 14ts I bought it because I wanted one and lots of people said how much they also wanted one so I thought it would sell easily it didn't I lost hundreds on it. It is surprising how much it costs to get them over here and registered. The French idea of good condition and passing a CT doesn't mean it is any good and won't need a fortune in welding to get it through an mot. Then £55 registration fee you would be lucky to break even on one. 2CV's and vans are all that is worth bringing over as they sell leave Renaults well alone. My little peugeot was under £500 to buy but by the time I have got it mot'ed and put some tyres on and generally got it in a good sound state it now owes 2 grand which I would never get for it.

[Guest Renault20tx]

I doubt it will be a money maker. Renaults are worth the square root of bugger all. You will find lots of people will want one but none will have any real money. I have imported quite a few over the years including a 14ts I bought it because I wanted one and lots of people said how much they also wanted one so I thought it would sell easily it didn't I lost hundreds on it. It is surprising how much it costs to get them over here and registered. The French idea of good condition and passing a CT doesn't mean it is any good and won't need a fortune in welding to get it through an mot. Then £55 registration fee you would be lucky to break even on one. 2CV's and vans are all that is worth bringing over as they sell leave Renaults well alone. My little peugeot was under £500 to buy but by the time I have got it mot'ed and put some tyres on and generally got it in a good sound state it now owes 2 grand which I would never get for it.

many thanks for the advice, sounds like one to leave well alone. I will still get the one for my enjoyment, as they are selling for silly money when they do come up in the UK nowadays.

This one comes with 3 spare doors, a spare tailgate and a pair of wings, plus it does not have the dreaded TRX tyres, so I think I would be well equipped in case of MOT fail due to grot - apart from the sills of course. 

In terms of making money from my plan, more chance of hell freezing over, I always knew that. And on reflection, £1500 is serious money to spend on a car for most people.

[MarvinsMom]

as a money spinner it is i guess a none starter, but, if you are doing it out of love and as a hobby then, hell, why not?

 

none, or at least very few can actually make money out of this other than its just abit of fun and if we can cover most of the costs on a car, then i certainly think that i am doing really well.

 

but on the other hand, i never though that there would have been the reaction to the velsatis on here that there has been, so what do i know?

 

(ok less than bugger all.....)

[chaseracer]

£1500 is serious money to spend on a car for most people.

 

It is around here!

 

Unless you are called Dave, live in Torquay and have a thing for a certain Crewe-based prestige marque... 

[Guest Renault20tx]

as a money spinner it is i guess a none starter, but, if you are doing it out of love and as a hobby then, hell, why not?

 

none, or at least very few can actually make money out of this other than its just abit of fun and if we can cover most of the costs on a car, then i certainly think that i am doing really well.

 

but on the other hand, i never though that there would have been the reaction to the velsatis on here that there has been, so what do i know?

 

(ok less than bugger all.....)

Well, I have been lurking on this forum, never posting, since 2006..........and I remember the love for the R20 back in those days, several were bought, none arrived, a Mr Bowker involved at some level each time. 

Come to think of it, I remember now that there was a Renault 30 round the back of a repair garage in Sheffield in those days, and had been since 1995. With no driving license and no idea of cars/MOTs whatsoever, I told myself that where there's a will there's a way........... I went down to see if I coud buy it off them for £150 or so, only to meet a guffaw of laughter, being told that it had sat there all those years, I could have had it for nowt as no one had ever shown the slightest interest in it. BUT.......a Mr D Bowker had turned up the previous day by coincidence and driven off with it. 

If I get that 20TX from Paris, I'll probably find him stowed away in the boot ready to swoop.

[eddyramrod]

You will find lots of people will want one but none will have any real money.  lots of people said how much they also wanted one so I thought it would sell easily it didn't I lost hundreds on it.

Precisely my experience with a 1972 Ford Granada.   Therefore, starting out on the same road with anything less desirable is simply suicidal.

[nigel bickle]

I bought a 69 Renner 12 in Frome last week.

 

Tis accident damaged, but it doesn't sound serious, and I probably have the bits...

 

French registered, cost to me? £51.

 

What can possibly go wrong?

[Guest Renault20tx]

I bought a 69 Renner 12 in Frome last week.

 

Tis accident damaged, but it doesn't sound serious, and I probably have the bits...

 

French registered, cost to me? £51.

 

What can possibly go wrong?

Some Romanians will hoik it back to their homeland, as an upmarket version of the Dacia-copy R12. Get one over on the Joneses next door type of thing. I kid you not.That yellow R12 I took a snap of? The owner told me he has them down every other day asking to buy it. Only a matter of time before one of them just takes it anyway IMO. And if the wheel is on the correct side for them......Just don't for god's sake paint a Gordini stripe down the side, or you can kiss goodbye to it the first time its left overnight!!!!

[warren t claim]

I fancy a begsy Renner 20 with the engine out of a 16. Do any exist in the UK?

[Guest Renault20tx]

I fancy a begsy Renner 20 with the engine out of a 16. Do any exist in the UK?

 

You mean the Renault 20 L 1.6? I think that did have the same engine as the 16TX............but it wasn't powerful enough for the size/weight of car really. Shows how far engine design has come along over the years. A well engineered 1.2 would probably move a R20 along nicely these days. 

 

Any left? 1 I believe, there are a few people out there who kept hold of their R20s, but they are very much the exception to the rule.

[D Spares & Tyres]

I bought a 69 Renner 12 in Frome last week.

Tis accident damaged, but it doesn't sound serious, and I probably have the bits...

French registered, cost to me? £51.

What can possibly go wrong?

I was second highest bidder on that, I bid £50!

[Vin]

 

Come to think of it, I remember now that there was a Renault 30 round the back of a repair garage in Sheffield in those days, and had been since 1995. With no driving license and no idea of cars/MOTs whatsoever, I told myself that where there's a will there's a way........... I went down to see if I coud buy it off them for £150 or so, only to meet a guffaw of laughter, being told that it had sat there all those years, I could have had it for nowt as no one had ever shown the slightest interest in it. BUT.......a Mr D Bowker had turned up the previous day by coincidence and driven off with it. 

If I get that 20TX from Paris, I'll probably find him stowed away in the boot ready to swoop.

 

I remember that Renault being posted on here by a regular Sheffield reporter, back in the halcyon days of Autoshite... <Reminiscing>

[Guest Renault20tx]

I remember that Renault being posted on here by a regular Sheffield reporter, back in the halcyon days of Autoshite... <Reminiscing>

Yes it was brown, painted over in black. A TX as I recall, owned by a little old lady until 1995 (I kid you not.)

Those were ace days on this forum - before the scrappage took it's toll. We didn't even consider Montegos rare enough to be shite back then. Still a Montego/Maestro on many a secondhand car lot.

We even used to get the odd Renault 20 / Tagora spotting, there were some still out and about in every day use. I'd love to see those photos again, but all have been lost due to expired photobucket accounts etc.

[sierraman]

I think I recognise it, did it used to be parked outside a garage on Derbyshire lane?

 

Could be wrong but I might have a Renault 20 Haynes manual in the loft.

[Eric]

I have imported about 7 R20/30s from France into The Netherlands from 2007 till 2010, they were worth nothing in France then and now...

They are very comfortable, parts are a bit diffecult to get hold on, but if you want one, go for it..

[Adrian_pt]

The Frome Renault looked pleasingly ratty - good buy! Spoke to the owner about it but decided to leave it to a bigger hero than me.

 

Might be in the market for a decent ex-France 12 next year - pay rise dependent. 

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I have imported about 7 R20/30s from France into The Netherlands from 2007 till 2010, they were worth nothing in France then and now...

They are very comfortable, parts are a bit diffecult to get hold on, but if you want one, go for it..

Splendid work!!!!! Tell us more!!

[Eric]

Here are a few pictures of cars I imported from France into The Netherlands..3820633466_871686a77b_z.jpgOmmen2010_009.jpg

 

 

Here are a few pictures of cars I imported from France into The Netherlands..

 

Renault 20 TS 1978

Renault 20 TS 1980 (the new owner weighed it in after three years, I'm still mad at him)

Renault 20 TS 1981

Renault 20 GTD 1982

Renault 20 TX 1981 sold as a project

Renault 20 TS 1984 (crasched in 2010)

Renault 30 TX 1981

 

Renault 20 TS 1979 scrapped...to much work

[Bren]

My uncles neighbour had a black one around 1989.

 

I remember the badge - it did'nt say 2.0 - it said "2 litre"

[2MB]

Looks like I was born too late to see a Renault 20 in the wild. Shame. Did they come out before the first Passat?

[Guest Renault20tx]

Looks like I was born too late to see a Renault 20 in the wild. Shame. Did they come out before the first Passat?

Well actually the Passat beat it to production by 2 years. I was born in 1988, and not including my father's,  I have seen 4 20s in the wild - One on the A1 in 1996ish. Another was abandoned in the local multi storey about 1998 (I remember seeing the last tax disc in the windscreen). After that, I saw one at a road junction the following year, and the last time was in 2001, when a green/brown, Bristol registered 20 drove past our house. I remember my father saying he could tell it was manual from it's engine noise - I wonder if that one might have survived till the present day? Certainly very late on for an R20!

[flat4alfa]

This page has won the..  etc

 

 

Years ago, a dodgy *mate had one and outran the Police with it.  

 

I saw part of the chase, which lasted from North Bushey up to Abbots Langley...

 

He did go to prison in the end, for further chases and handling drugs.  That need not apply here though.  

[Uncle Jimmy]

Lurking on here without posting since 2006?

[Guest Renault20tx]

Lurking on here without posting since 2006?

Yeah, I'm an utter creep lol!!

[flat4alfa]

It's still for sale though, so did you put a deposit on it or not?

 

http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/862175231.htm

 

 

 

 

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