Free road tax to be abolished

[rovamota]

In the Budget today, George Osbourne said the current system is unsustainable. We all said that at the very beginning. 

 

"By 2017, three quarters of new cars will pay no vehicle excise duty (VED) because they are fuel efficient. This penalises those who cannot afford new cars. Only Labour could design something so regressive."

[garbaldy]

He said he was changing it from ved to road tax again, also that there would be three bands set up with the middle band being £140 odd which 95% of cars would fall into.

He also said this would apply to new cars only and will not affect people who have already bought a car.

Also fuel duty frozen for the rest of the year.

[rovamota]

Won't need an MoT until it's 4 years old, either.

[face]

I thought petrol was going to "drop below £1/litre"??

 

I cunting-well paid £1.20.something this morning.

[forddeliveryboy]

I like his take on not penalising those who don't spend ££££.

 

So will this also mean that even though I haven't spent £30,000 on a central heating boiler I will also receive a similar level of benefit for using fallen, locally gathered wood and used veg to heat the house? I'd be happy to receive the same benefit even though my system is many times more environmentally friendly than using wood pellets. I could live off it quite comfortably - a neighbour heats their house to 21C year round and gets paid to do so, plus profit - even though it's a holiday house. RHI is simply an initiative for the already-wealthy to syphon off the green taxes we all pay on our bills.

 

And because I don't spend $$$$ on fuel but run on a renewable, waste product, will I also benefit from this enlightened thinking? Special treatment for those who ride around in ancient machines which use waste veg for fuel?

[garbaldy]

He did say that insurance premium tax was going up though.

[inconsistant]

Road tax, 1937, etc etc...

[UltraWomble]

increase in insurance premium tax to 9.5% from November

 

For something we have to have legally

 

New VED bands for new cars to be introduced from 2017, pegged to emissions - 95% of car owners will pay £140 a year.

How do they work that one out then?

BBC news website.

[worldofceri]

I thought from the title it was going to be the nil rate for vehicles over forty.  Phew.  Don't care about new cars.

[Andrew353w]

In the Budget today, George Osbourne said the current system is unsustainable. We all said that at the very beginning. 

 

"By 2017, three quarters of new cars will pay no vehicle excise duty (VED) because they are fuel efficient. This penalises those who cannot afford new cars. Only Labour could design something so regressive."

Hear hear!!

[forddeliveryboy]

Will EVs still be treated as 'zero emission' and so free or v low tax in addition to almost tax-free fuel?

[hairnet]

NEW CARS FFS

 

and relax

[Matt]

He did say that insurance premium tax was going up though.

 

I say that he can get to fuck with that idea. Insurance is already expensive enough.

[Cavcraft]

In the Budget today, George Osbourne said the current system is unsustainable. We all said that at the very beginning. 

 

"By 2017, three quarters of new cars will pay no vehicle excise duty (VED) because they are fuel efficient. This penalises those who cannot afford new cars. Only Labour could design something so regressive."

 

Fucking bollocks, for a start not everybody wants a new car then there's the environmental factor of making the fuckers in the first place, and lastly we did NOT 'all' say the system was unsustainable from the beginning. 

[Lacquer Peel]

Oddly sensible idea from the towel folder in chief.

Were any new cars eligible for free VED when co2-based VED was introduced? It's not a surprise manufacturers have capitalised on it. OMG FREE ROAD TAX ONLY £25K. BUY NOW.

Will the benefits for company car drivers cease as well?

[UltraWomble]

Oddly sensible idea from the towel folder in chief.

Were any new cars eligible for free VED when co2-based VED was introduced? It's not a surprise manufacturers have capitalised on it. OMG FREE ROAD TAX ONLY £25K. BUY NOW.

Will the benefits for company car drivers cease as well?

Perhaps Citroen will bin off that frankly woeful 1600 HDi and let people buy the DW10 2.0HDi instead now. Honestly, the latest generation of bingo come with 2 engine choices a 1.6 HDi or 1.4 Pez, and anything other than the basic model comes only with the diesel.

[Bren]

People buying brand new shite with diesel engines that do a good impression of a hand grenade thanks to 20000 mile service intervals.

 

All in the name of free road tax.

 

No wonder the country's fucked.

[stillOrange]

Will EVs still be treated as 'zero emission' and so free or v low tax in addition to almost tax-free fuel?

Yes, 0 emissions = 0 rate as previously

[dieselnutjob]

Surely the obvious think to do is to just scrap road tax completely.  CO2 emissions are proportional to the amount of fuel burnt so just put up fuel duty to compensate.

[cms206]

Surely the obvious think to do is to just scrap road tax completely. CO2 emissions are proportional to the amount of fuel burnt so just put up fuel duty to compensate.

I think you're trying to bankrupt us Thor-fearing Scots who know that 18mpg with Ikea in the back of your Volvo is the only true way.

[jonny69]

Fucking bollocks, for a start not everybody wants a new car then there's the environmental factor of making the fuckers in the first place, and lastly we did NOT 'all' say the system was unsustainable from the beginning. 

 

And additionally, it's not a system that has been regressive at all, it's been instrumental in driving down fuel consumption in cars which is where the overwhelming environmental impact occurs in the life cycle. Now, of course a sliding scale would have to replace it eventually when the majority of cars reached a certain average fuel efficiency, but surely any fucking idiot can see that?

 

What a load of Tory spin bollocks. I'm sort of offended that so many people have been sucked into this, particularly people on here who I thought might have been intelligent enough to see through it.

 

 

Surely the obvious think to do is to just scrap road tax completely.  CO2 emissions are proportional to the amount of fuel burnt so just put up fuel duty to compensate.

 

I just don't know what the problem is with doing this. Polluter pays. Pollute less, pay less. It's quite simple and it's the best system.

[Negative Creep]

It might have helped drive down CO2 emissions but conveniently ignored the Nitrogen Oxide and other nasty carcinogens that have risen because everyone bought a diesel

[beko1987]

I think a tax on fuel is the best way too, maybe with some over complicated tax break for folk doing mega miles (trucks, buses etc) with lots of loopholes to exploit.

 

I'd get an IBC and step the veg up a notch if that happened, would make new veg from the shops even cheaper per litre too if nothing else!

[garbaldy]

/\ and what exactly do you think would happen to veg oil price if diesel shot up with another tax?

[Lacquer Peel]

Not sure people in their BMW 320D EfficientDynamics will be seen pouring KTC soya down their filler necks.

[oldcars]

I don't care, i drive a Reliant   

[hennabm]

Another consultation into taking the MOT to 4 years instead of 3 announced as well. Ref - BBC website

[beko1987]

Most modern cars would need an eye watering amount of work done by the first mot if its 4 years surely?

[Negative Creep]

Like the nearly brand new Peugeot 208 I saw yesterday with no working brake lights

[alf892]

Like the nearly brand new Peugeot 208 I saw yesterday with no working brake lights

 

Yeah......that wouldn't have happened if it knew it had an mot looming