Full sized pez powered family saloons.

[Pillock]

Explains the godawful gear ratios on mine - 70mph might well be 1300rpm in 6th, but having to accelerate around anything means dropping to 4th or even 3rd to get it shifting.

[Sloth in a bowl]

 

Apparently you can turn stop-start off in some cars but it turns itself back on, that'd drive me nuts, I hate nannying cars.

 

 

The Octavia stop start switches on every time you start the car but it is half a second press of a button by the gearstick to turn off.

If it was buried in a menu on the car control settings computer thingy, I would have gone nuts (more nuts?) by now.

[CHRIS1980]

Stop start technology is a hateful thing. But nothing new,my Dad's Fiat Strada energy saving model had it back in the 80s. A few months back I was sent on a course for work and was given a Fiat 500 as transport,that had stop start on it which was promptly switched off. Also what a chore to drive. Up to 40 was ok but see trying to get up to speed on the motorway slip roads was stressful. And it chewed fuel,and no we weren't thrashing it.

[Noel Tidybeard]

honda accord 2.0

[Ghosty]

Carinas and Avensisisisises?

[Stanky]

Primera. Cam chain for 250k lifespan, 140bhp on the 'hot' one and realistic prospect of 40mpg to boot.

 

Also, see 'indestructible' in the Oxford English Disctionary. There is just a picture of a Primera with the caption 'nuff said' (or something)

 

might need some fettling with a welder every so often

[NorfolkNWeigh]

As mentioned earlier, I went with my brother to pick this up, that mythical beast ; a petrol powered Mondeo.

 

 

It's a 2.5 Turbo, on the cam cover it says Duratec I-5, looks like a Volvo 850 engine to me.

Anyway 217 bhp ,86.000 mile service print out from the Met shows service every 10k. Brand new Michleins all round and discs replace 200 miles ago- your tax money at work.

It drives very nicely,not as fast as I expected but lovely and torquey and seems to gain momentum pretty rapidly almost without you noticing. 3rd pulls from walking pace to over a 100 and there's no sudden drop off in power like there would be with a manual diesel of similar output. I haven't driven a 2.2 dizzler Mondeo but Mrs N's Gaylander uses the same engine and whilst it's pretty powerful and feels ok it's like most 4 cylinder manual diesels in that it's like a cross between a Transit and a Massey Ferguson 135.

Over 50 miles in convoy with my 530d and swapping drivers halfway it left a good impression. We zeroed both trip computers, the Mondeo did 32.3mpg the BMW 39.2.

Brother seems quite impressed ,it owes him £2,500 with all the fees and indemnitys, he reckons £300 on paint then maybe a chip and exhaust,we'll see.

[Junkman]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-/261950418366

[the judge]

Ace for the money,that Mondeo. We had the diesels for emergency work,and they do soak up the sensation of acceleration. Bet it is quick

[Sloth in a bowl]

As mentioned earlier, I went with my brother to pick this up, that mythical beast ; a petrol powered Mondeo.

 

image.jpg

 

It's a 2.5 Turbo, on the cam cover it says Duratec I-5, looks like a Volvo 850 engine to me.

Anyway 217 bhp ,86.000 mile service print out from the Met shows service every 10k. Brand new Michleins all round and discs replace 200 miles ago- your tax money at work.

It drives very nicely,not as fast as I expected but lovely and torquey and seems to gain momentum pretty rapidly almost without you noticing. 3rd pulls from walking pace to over a 100 and there's no sudden drop off in power like there would be with a manual diesel of similar output. I haven't driven a 2.2 dizzler Mondeo but Mrs N's Gaylander uses the same engine and whilst it's pretty powerful and feels ok it's like most 4 cylinder manual diesels in that it's like a cross between a Transit and a Massey Ferguson 135.

Over 50 miles in convoy with my 530d and swapping drivers halfway it left a good impression. We zeroed both trip computers, the Mondeo did 32.3mpg the BMW 39.2.

Brother seems quite impressed ,it owes him £2,500 with all the fees and indemnitys, he reckons £300 on paint then maybe a chip and exhaust,we'll see.

 

 

If it is a Volvo motor for chipping then these guys are competent, http://hlmtuning.co.uk/ , got a rolling road and work on several race cars as well as being Volvo experts.

I had my V40 serviced by them for years. Labour costs weren't the cheapest but I never felt ripped for unnecessary work.

[Cavcraft]

I had a 2.0 petrol Mk3 Mondeo a couple of years ago. The engine was ace, didn't half go some and was very responsive. Must have been a better bet than a diesel one, but that said, sticking your knob through a hungry cannibal's letterbox is better than a diesel Mondeo.

[gordonbennet]

As mentioned earlier, I went with my brother to pick this up, that mythical beast ; a petrol powered Mondeo.

 

image.jpg

 

It's a 2.5 Turbo, on the cam cover it says Duratec I-5, looks like a Volvo 850 engine to me.

Anyway 217 bhp ,86.000 mile service print out from the Met shows service every 10k. Brand new Michleins all round and discs replace 200 miles ago- your tax money at work.

It drives very nicely,not as fast as I expected but lovely and torquey and seems to gain momentum pretty rapidly almost without you noticing. 3rd pulls from walking pace to over a 100 and there's no sudden drop off in power like there would be with a manual diesel of similar output. I haven't driven a 2.2 dizzler Mondeo but Mrs N's Gaylander uses the same engine and whilst it's pretty powerful and feels ok it's like most 4 cylinder manual diesels in that it's like a cross between a Transit and a Massey Ferguson 135.

Over 50 miles in convoy with my 530d and swapping drivers halfway it left a good impression. We zeroed both trip computers, the Mondeo did 32.3mpg the BMW 39.2.

Brother seems quite impressed ,it owes him £2,500 with all the fees and indemnitys, he reckons £300 on paint then maybe a chip and exhaust,we'll see.

 

 

Cracking motor for the money.

 

Maybe you can answer this, that ex police car seller at Halifax often advertises T5's etc as being lower tax band than the top rate they should be in, police dispensation that stays for the life of the car according to the sales guff, was tempted but often wondered if this worked out in the real world 12 months later when you go to retax it and the bastards have shoved back into the £500 band where it should have been anyway...can't bring meself to give the govt of the day £500 to bribe Robert Mugabe types with.

 

Out of interest is that Mondy up in the top band?

 

 

 

 

Not surprised taxi owners are moving away from Diesel, you'd have thought LPG or hybrid would be the ideal for them, if they've got a dozen or more cars probably worth the investment to get their own propane tank installed too.

[DodgyBastard]

Malaysia Kuala Lumpur Proton Saga Iswara April 2001 007 by Elmar, on Flickr

[Lankytim]

I was wondering about the tax band on that gorgeous Mondeo and seem to remember ex cop cars being on the pre 2001 system too.

[HH-R]

Stop start technology is a hateful thing. But nothing new,my Dad's Fiat Strada energy saving model had it back in the 80s. A few months back I was sent on a course for work and was given a Fiat 500 as transport,that had stop start on it which was promptly switched off. Also what a chore to drive. Up to 40 was ok but see trying to get up to speed on the motorway slip roads was stressful. And it chewed fuel,and no we weren't thrashing it.

FIAT have ruined their petrol engines with euro 5 engine maps. Fug me, they are SLOW.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

I'll find out about the tax, didn't tax it before picking it up. Just in case it was a bag of shit or ran its ends on the way home- this was not our first rodeo (auction)

[sierraman]

I've a 2.0 Mondeo, it easily does 42-45mpg on a run. As cars have got bigger the second shape Focus isn't that much smaller now.

[Tetleysmooth]

 

2.5 turbo, as seen in the ebay tat thread.

[Noel Tidybeard]

 

Details Manufacturer Ford Model Mondeo Zetec Turbo Colour Grey Fuel Type Petrol Engine Size 2.5 litres Estimated Mileage 41,200 miles

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Vehicle Checks Stolen No

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Written Off Buy a check to reveal Exported No Imported Buy a check to reveal VIC Marker No

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Road Tax and Registration Road Tax 12 Months £290 Road Tax 6 Months £159.50 Registration Date 01 December 2009 Vehicle Age 5 years 7 months Reg. Local/District Office DVLA Peterborough/Anglia

[Junkman]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cadillac-seville-/331598158634

[Hendry]

In defence of diesel taxis, my old man first had a Vectra C 2.0 DTi which he put over 220K on and less consumables and brake/suspension components it was on its original everything, except the clutch which lasted an impressive 143,000 miles.

 

He's now got an 09 VW Jetta 2.0 TDi CR 140bhp, this is on 115k, bought on 35K, its had nothing replaced yet other than service items and brake/suspension components again

 

So they aren't all bad, although I would definitely avoid 1.9 CDTi Vauxhalls, the amount of people I know with major problems on them is vast (gearboxes, alternators, flywheels, swirl flaps, inlet manifolds, egrs, etc)

 

It certainly seems that small block Turbo and/or supercharged engines are the way cars are going but won't these be even more highly stressed and likely to fail than large capacity Turbo diesels?

[twosmoke300]

The 2.0 dti is a brilliant motor . No dpf , dmf or common rail shite

[Lacquer Peel]

Don't they munch fuel pumps, or has that been resolved?

[Hendry]

Don't they munch fuel pumps, or has that been resolved?

They are rumoured to and my boss had an 04 plate Saab 93 2.2 TID same engne as the 2.0/2.2 DTi Vauxhall engines) which had a poor starting issue which was traced to a failing fuel pump but my dads Vectra never had any bother with it in the 235K it had done when he got rid of it, the camshaft was starting to become noisy but that's it and it was poorly maintained, regularly ran low on oil, not serviced for 30/40k at a time etc and it just ran and ran.

[twosmoke300]

I think a lot of non starts were blamed on the pump but leak off pipes and injector seals are more common . The pumps do fail sometimes but I'm convinced it's caused by changing the filter incorrectly . Also it's the same pump as fitted to transits , vws and all sorts which don't have the bad rep

[Lacquer Peel]

I've heard of VP44s failing in big American trucks and other European diesels - was it something to do with the built-in pump ECU overheating? However, it doesn't surprise me that the expensive part gets the blame over cheap parts.

[twosmoke300]

It is usually the electronic part of the pump that fails yes . But not really Vauxhalls fault but the super dooper , German quality , never goes wrong Bosch rubbish

[sierraman]

Just done a return journey today from Sheffield to Retford, 2.0 petrol Mondeo, the computer says 47.2mpg. So in real life that's more like 42mpg. Can't complain there then.