Ebay item sold, thoughts and opinions needed.....

[srad34]

Hi all,

I sold  a motorbike on Ebay a few days back. It was advertised as spares & repairs as it had been stood or a number of years and I had recently broken it down to parts with the intention of selling the parts.(Chassis an engine are complete)

Realising the time this would take to list and post out, I bottled it and advertised it as a complete bike in bits for £295. (Making a £150 loss on what I paid for it)

 

A buyer used buy now and it sold within an hour. He contacted me and agreed to collect and pay cash on arrival, which was fine. He turned up, I confirmed the missing bits (as per the advert), he checked over the bits, ummed and arrrgghed, and asked lots of questions but loaded it into his van and off he went....

I even threw in a spare set of carbs as I had them (£60 odd quid on their own)

 

Today he emailed me stating that some of the re-assembly bits, clips and some bodywork screws were missing. He claims to have estimated £130 in missing bits not noted in the advert and wants me to pay £65 towards it....

 

Now after cooling down, my thoughts are this:

• No questions were asked before he used 'buy now' and no viewing requested
• He went over the bike before he handed over the cash
• He claimed he trusted my advert was 100% accurate
• This bike is valued at 7-900 when rebuilt (Clean ones are over £1,200)

 

My first thought was fuck em, bring it back and refund, but maybe a tad hasty. My only concern is that if he started an ebay dispute, would ebay be able to take the money back from my account even though it was not paid through ebay?

I know ebay sides with the buyer and this is a worry as he has the bike already.

 

This is about the principle of the sale. In my eyes, if you turn up, look through whats there and you agree with what it is an how much, you pay your money.

I would never dream of walking away with something and then going back asking for money because I had not checked something at the time. Am I being unreasonable?  Is he just taking the piss and chancing it??

 

This was advertised as a spares or repair project.....

 

Thoughts please 

 

 

[Bren]

Tell him to get stuffed.

 

If he knew what he was doing he would have checked before handing over the folding.

 

I have said this before - fuck ebay off. It acts in the favour of the buyer and gives mouthbreathing twats carte blanche to take the piss.

[Mr Lobster]

He's chancing it.  

 

As you say, he came and inspected it, paid and took it away. He was aware it wasn't complete, if theres other minor bits missing then he obviously didn't spot them at the time. 

 

Given that he paid cash, I don't think theres much he can do. I'm fairly sure ebay can't take money off you on vehicle sales and items not paid by PayPal but its probably worth checking with them.

[hairnet]

buy something torn down its guaranteed bits go missing/ get found later maybe

 

if he went through it first like you said he didnt notice - tough

[2MB]

Sounds like a chancer.... We've all got a purchase home and noticed issues or bits missing that we didn't spot while excitedly checking it over before payment, but like you say that's his problem. However the way eBay compensates buyers without question is a worry... is there any way of finding out if the bike was covered with the money back guarantee? 

[Parky]

I would apologise and request he returns the bike and all bits for a no hassle refund. That way if he opens a dispute you have been utterly reasonable and the Bay probably couldn't mark you down as some sort of scam merchant the way they seem to with everyone these days. Obviously ensure EVERYTHING is present as per the advert, including the spare carbs.

 

Can bodywork clips and screws, etc really be worth 130 quid? Can he send you an exact itemised list of required parts with pricing to prove so you can check it yourself?

 

We all know the bloke is a chancer so call him out on it and politely request the return of said item. I be the can't be arsed. Do you have a receipt signed by both of you stating sold as seen, no warranty or guarantees given or implied?

[Cavcraft]

Paid cash? Remind him (politely) he checked it over first and basically if he was bothered about the missing bits he should have checked at the time.

[srad34]

Thanks Chaps,

It seems that the cheaper things are, the more hassle you get. I have had it with gheybay, not going to sell anything on there of any value again, balls to 'em.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Tell him to fuck off & die

[Hertz]

It's horrible isn't it when this happens. As said above if it was me I would offer a full refund for everything returned or on yer bike you chancer.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

If he returns it, send him a letter claiming some more screws and noggins are missing, and invoice him £60

[garbaldy]

I was wondering how ebay works these days after a friend sold a factory sat nav system complete with a spare dvd player, 

the buyer who snapped up the no reserve auction for £47 then complained that the dvd player didn't work, after much emailing back and forth my friend lost the will to live and replied return the whole system for a full refund then shut down his paypal account in the hope they wouldn't chargeback the payment,

after much more batting back and forth with the buyer and ebay he received an email from ebay stating they have refunded partial payment of £20 to the buyer and that this wouldn't affect his feedback and the case was now closed.

 

what i am wondering is who the fook is paying the refund as my friend hasn't and has not even been asked to,  the buyer also listed the whole system in bits with  the steering wheel alone listed at £80 delivered which sold,  we toted it up and recon he's made £190 back plus the ebay refund

some people sure know how to play the system.

[mat_the_cat]

If he wants £65, tell him you've already given him £60 worth of carbs, and you'll only charge him a fiver for your time dealing with him.

[Taff]

kill him with fire

 

lovely, lovely fire

[Uncle Jimmy]

Don't give up selling because of one bellend!

[srad34]

Its just hassle that I don't have the time/energy to have to deal with. I just don't get some folk. He said when asking for the cash on email 'That I expect you to contribute'

 

Wish he had told me this first as I would have told him to fuck off before he handed over the cash.....grumble  

[vulgalour]

eBay is only good for buying, it's a shitfest for selling.  eBay have gone so far in favour of buyers now that it's a joke trying to sell anything legitimately, there's always that risk that some numbnut is going to play the system and get the goods off you and the money they paid for it, which is effectively authorised theft.  They can then fence their stolen goods on the very site they bought them from and make a profit and you just know they don't get stitched up when they do this.

 

Just another example of cunts using capitalism for their own gain rather than being decent human beings.

[TimothyClaypole]

Chancer.

 

Offer the return so you've done the right thing by Ebay but he's lost the "leg he was standing on" by paying cash so no free refund from Paypal.

 

He won't return it and the very worst he'll try to leave a negative which isn't the end of the world.

[Pillock]

Make a tiny replica of him and jab it with pins every so often.

[HillmanImp]

Emails like these should receive a 'Rutland' response. You can pick whichever one seems most relevant to the idiotic question he is asking. 

 

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Saddleback, saddleback. Lechery billboard kettlebum simpering snuff masticated bowelside handset lemonade enterprisingly apartheid rubberized plumbjoint curvaceously mucking squirrels! 

 

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Machine-wrapped, with butter. 

 

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[sporty-shite]

I'd be tempted to call his bluff and offer a refund. Then if he turns up (unlikely) keep him standing in the cold for an hour whilst you go through every last part of the bike, before realising something is "missing" and refunding him £50 less than he paid. The cunt.

[purplebargeken]

That sounds appealing to me as a form of resolution ^^^

 

with the caveat (love that word) that you will be in no way responsible for any out of pocket expenses that he might incur including travel costs. Then burn him. Slowly. 

[Uncle Jimmy]

I have sold about 400 items on eBay and I think I've had 2 or 3 idiots, the rest no trouble at all, in fact some really genuine folks. I've been disappointed a few times because I sold stuff for 99p but that was my fault for not setting a reserve. 

As a buyer I did have one seller who went a bit mental; I made him an informal offer and went to look at the stuff- motor parts; the photos were bad. When I changed my mind on seeing the crap, for a moment I did think he was going to kill me. Little bit disturbing.

[Taff]

I'd be tempted to call his bluff and offer a refund. Then if he turns up (unlikely) keep him standing in the cold for an hour whilst you go through every last part of the bike, before realising something is "missing" and refunding him £50 less than he paid. The cunt.

 

ha! yes, this. In fact, I'll come round and answer the door to him, wearing a gas mask, black overalls & my glow in the dark Wermacht WW2 helmet, then stand there, uncomfortably close to him while you go through the whole lot

[Albert Ross]

When I bought my Land Rover, I had basically rescued it from being broken. It had spent 10 years as a factory security vehicle, being sat in all day by some fat bastard. It was missing the chassis plate, and the chassis was broken, twisted, and corroded. It was advertised as "complete, but incomplete, if you know what I mean, it will need a week's worth of welding to make it right again". I didn't realise they meant 24/7. I wasn't disappointed about the 300 odd mile round trip. Not once did I think I had been diddled. I was buying a pile of parts, screwed together, with numberplates at each end.

   As for selling. I sold a Punto to a Latvian girl. She was utterly gorgeous, and never once asked for discount. She paid cash for the car, and I sat next to her, in her car (L plates) as her bloke drove it to Scunthorpe. My Mrs followed us... About a week later, the chap sent an email, telling me he thought the MOT was dodgy, but not complaining, because it was a track rod end with play for about £6, (He discovered it when taking it for tracking) and he wanted to warn me not to use the testing station again! I've had a bloke try to beat me down after a "Buy it Now", so I told him to pay in full or fuck off. (VAG BBS 14" rims, like rocking horse shit) He offered £80 for a £120 sale. He paid in full, laughing as he left, saying it's always worth trying, as most people cave in! Stand your ground.

[Albert Ross]

If he does come back, giggle all the way through talking to him, and fondle your hair whilst looking him up and down.

[Cavcraft]

Once seven days is up, file a non-paying bidder's report to eBay. That way, if he tries to leave you bad feedback you can get it removed and it'll also be on his 'file' with eBay that he's an NPB.

 

If you're feeling a tad more twattish and haven't sent the V5 off yet, perhaps fill in the 'permanently scrapped' section (assuming they still have this) and inform DVLA. After all, with all those bits missing the bike will be no good to the bloke.

[Taff]

those last two are both good.

 

Hang on, have you got his address on the V5C still? Pm it to me, and sit back, safe in the knowledge he is about to become the proud owner of several skips, and a fat girl

[scruff]

^^Genius 

[the judge]

Basket case now. He inspected and left happy. Load of bits n bats cant be expected to be perfect. You could also report him to ebay for giving you 60 quid short in payment. Mix the situation with confusion,ebay only like straight forward email stuff to judge on.

 

 

The cock butty scoffing gobshite