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Enough with the stupid wheels and tyres; it's a cheap shopping car, not a Clio V6.

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On 09/10/2024 at 18:16, martc said:

Did you know they made VW's in Bosnia Herzegovina? No, neither did I. They were made by TAS (Tvornica Automobila Sarajevo), note the TAS badge on the grille.

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One for the Rozzershite thread.

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They were exported across Eastern Europe.

My Beetle and mk1 Golf are both made in Sarajevo by TAS. Beetle is 1200J, with J denoting made in Yugoslavia (Jugoslavija). Golf has TAS badge on the grill and JGL as trim level. 
They also did a small run of mk3s, but the war started and it all went to shit.

 

 

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1 hour ago, IronStar said:

Beetle is 1200J

Got any pics of that? Sounds interesting 

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1 hour ago, bunglebus said:

Got any pics of that? Sounds interesting 

Regular Beetle with 1200J badge AFAIK

 

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The Powell Pickup. Around 1,000 or so of these pick-ups (along with 300 station wagons) were assembled in the 1950s in Compton, California using 1941 Plymouth chassis from scrap yards. The idea was to build a cheap and sturdy utility vehicle and it worked until the supply of scrap ‘41 Plymouths ran out. They have a long round drawer that pulls out from the load area sides for fishing rod storage. 

I've no idea why 1941 Plymouths were so special and why they couldn't use say a 1940 or 1942 chassis.

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2 hours ago, bunglebus said:

Got any pics of that? Sounds interesting 

Did a web search. There's been a few for sale in Hungary, so I guess they were sold there. They look like regular German 1200 beetle built after 1974 with the Euro bumpers and front indicators in the bumpers.

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According to my Etzold the Hungarian factory built Beetles from 1973 to 1976.

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33 minutes ago, martc said:

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The Powell Pickup. Around 1,000 or so of these pick-ups (along with 300 station wagons) were assembled in the 1950s in Compton, California using 1941 Plymouth chassis from scrap yards. The idea was to build a cheap and sturdy utility vehicle and it worked until the supply of scrap ‘41 Plymouths ran out. They have a long round drawer that pulls out from the load area sides for fishing rod storage. 

I've no idea why 1941 Plymouths were so special and why they couldn't use say a 1940 or 1942 chassis.

1941 may have been surplus vehicles ordered by the French or us as it's prior to The Event; there would not be 1942 Plymouths, or at least none that weren't painted khaki.

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1 hour ago, somewhatfoolish said:

1941 may have been surplus vehicles ordered by the French or us as it's prior to The Event; there would not be 1942 Plymouths, or at least none that weren't painted khaki.

Mmmm good idea, but the Powell was made in the '50's so they would have had a choice of chassis from the scrapyard; not surplus from the manufacturer (ie from a cancelled order). After the war there could have been plenty of x Army Plymouths to choose from, but the commentary was quite specific that they used 1941 chassis. Was there something unique to '41 Plymouths? Or some taxation/registration quirk for 1941 dated chassis?

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11 hours ago, somewhatfoolish said:

1941 may have been surplus vehicles ordered by the French or us as it's prior to The Event; there would not be 1942 Plymouths, or at least none that weren't painted khaki.

 

1942 model year Plymouth production began in July 1941, along with most other US marques.  It was common to introduce the new "model year" in the late summer or early autumn of the previous year, especially in the days when American car makers still made dramatic changes to the bodywork every year.  Most American manufacturers halted civilian car production in January and February of 1942.  So, although 1942 models did exist, they were comparatively rare due to production being curtailed by America's entry into the war.  Likewise, soon after the war ended in 1945, the American car industry went straight to making "1946" model year cars in the autumn of 1945.  These were, for the most part, slightly warmed over 1942 models.

More information on the 1942 Plymouths here...

https://www.motorcities.org/story-of-the-week/2019/the-1942-plymouths-the-last-models-before-war-production

 

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Oh man. If only they'd put these into production. Doesn't even look any longer than the hatch!

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The Opel Kadett Pirsch (or Kadett Off Road).

According to the marketing description which is in Americanese; 'This was a station wagon with rustic trim, fitted with a limited-slip differential, reinforced suspension and more suitable tires, increased ground clearance, a skid plate, and shortened front fenders'.

Apparently it was designed for deer stalking. 

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12 minutes ago, warch said:

The Opel Kadett Pirsch (or Kadett Off Road).

According to the marketing description which is in Americanese; 'This was a station wagon with rustic trim, fitted with a limited-slip differential, reinforced suspension and more suitable tires, increased ground clearance, a skid plate, and shortened front fenders'.

Apparently it was designed for deer stalking. 

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A similar idea was the Irmscher Tramp, which looked a lot less inconspicuous:

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9 hours ago, D.E said:

A similar idea was the Irmscher Tramp, which looked a lot less inconspicuous:

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It does appear to be wearing a tramps hat! 😄

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The 1956 Škoda 440 Spartak designed by Otakar Diblík of Karosa, more famous for their coach bodies, which were often painted blue and cream, rather fortutiously.

Only one was made and it's in the Vysoké Mýto Museum.

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Kleinschnittger was a German company that produced microcars between 1950 and 1957. The F125 was powered by a 125 cc single cylinder two-stroke engine that produced 4 kW (5.4 hp) and a top speed of 70 km/h (43 mph).  The F250 was fitted with a 250 cc engine from ILO-Motorenwerke giving 11 kW (14.8 hp). They had aluminium bodies and were very economical to run. They were also made in Belgium as the Kleinstwagen and in the Netherlands as the Alco.

There's a write up about them here - https://classiccarcatalogue.com/KLEINSCHNITTGER_1952.html

Lots of pictures of one for sale here - https://www.gallery-aaldering.com/de/kleinschnittger-f-125-1950/

 

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4 hours ago, martc said:

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Kleinschnittger was a German company that produced microcars between 1950 and 1957. The F125 was powered by a 125 cc single cylinder two-stroke engine that produced 4 kW (5.4 hp) and a top speed of 70 km/h (43 mph).  The F250 was fitted with a 250 cc engine from ILO-Motorenwerke giving 11 kW (14.8 hp). They had aluminium bodies and were very economical to run. They were also made in Belgium as the Kleinstwagen and in the Netherlands as the Alco.

There's a write up about them here - https://classiccarcatalogue.com/KLEINSCHNITTGER_1952.html

Lots of pictures of one for sale here - https://www.gallery-aaldering.com/de/kleinschnittger-f-125-1950/

 

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These remind me of a King Midget.

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Weird microcars in Amsterdam. The red one is two stroke which surprised me

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The red one is a Canta. This is an older model and no longer in production, but they're still a common sight and the drivers of them continue to cause idiotic news headlines such as "Canta driver crashes, claims she didn't see parked lorry", "Canta driver gets spooked by other traffic, drives into canal", "86 year old Canta owner gets lost in park, ends up in pond", "Canta got stuck on rails", "Canta fell over after crash with scooter", etc.

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