Cars you didn't know existed until very recently.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

What's this?

 

[Aston Martin]

I mean this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Not sure how I'd change gear though.

[Austat]

1970 AMC Hornet, I guess I'm used to seeing that front end on the Gremlin rather than on a sedan:

[chaseracer]

4 hours ago, Dick Van Diesel said:

What's this?

 

Dunno, but I think there's Triumph Herald oily bits under there...

[MrSteve]

10 minutes ago, chaseracer said:

Dunno, but I think there's Triumph Herald oily bits under there...

Agree about those hub caps- very Triumph 2000/Vitesse. Has a Frua/Glas look to it?

[Dick Cheeseburger]

26 minutes ago, chaseracer said:

Dunno, but I think there's Triumph Herald oily bits under there...

 

10 minutes ago, MrSteve said:

Agree about those hub caps- very Triumph 2000/Vitesse. Has a Frua/Glas look to it?

I see what you mean about shape of the centre of the hubcaps. A mate is starting  to regularly post obsure motors as a 'guess what it is' effort on anti-social media. Thought it would be interesting to add to few to this thread!

And no, I don't actually know what it is...

[Peter C]

Two door Fiat Tempra anyone?

[bunglebus]

7 hours ago, Dick Van Diesel said:

What's this?

 

It looks like a BMW CSL had sex with an NSU RO80

[Snipes]

I was thinking Opel, but I can't really say why. 

Headlights do look Neu Klasse(sp?) and c-pillar kinda looks like a Hoffman link?

[Richard_FM]

2 hours ago, Peter C said:

Two door Fiat Tempra anyone?

Was it made by one of Fiat’s Latin American subsidiaries?  They seemed to like offering different body styles.

[Peter C]

3 minutes ago, Richard_FM said:

Was it made by one of Fiat’s Latin American subsidiaries?  They seemed to like offering different body styles.

Don’t know. But they also made a Turbo version.

[martc]

10 hours ago, Dick Van Diesel said:

What's this?

 

I thought it had the look of some of the rather nice Japanese cars from the 60's. The Japanese factories where very interested in European and especially Italian designs at the time. Could it be by Michelotti he did work for Hino and of course designed the Herald. There's also the look of an Isuzu about it. Also, is that a Pininfarina script behind the front wheel?

But it's LHD I would expect if it was Japanese (or based on a Herald) it would be RHD. Unless it's been printed the wrong way round...

[Volksy]

I'd have a guess that it's based on a '60s Opel Rekord coupe. The hubcaps look about right and the rear quarter panels look very similar. 

However the kink in the c pillar may suggest a BMW connection? 

[Yoss]

This is a Triumph Fury prototype which is obviously just a Spitfire with a new front but it is a similar front isn't it? 

[Yoss]

 @Dick Van Diesel

 

1964 Vittesse restyling proposal by Michelotti. Thanks to Canley Classics whose website I stole these from. 

[Dick Cheeseburger]

12 minutes ago, Yoss said:

 @Dick Van Diesel

 

1964 Vittesse restyling proposal by Michelotti. Thanks to Canley Classics whose website I stole these from. 

Amazing! How on earth did you find that?!

[Volksy]

21 minutes ago, Yoss said:

 @Dick Van Diesel

 

1964 Vittesse restyling proposal by Michelotti. Thanks to Canley Classics whose website I stole these from. 

Wow... Another missed opportunity! 

[Yoss]

I knew I'd seen it somewhere, probably the Club Triumph magazine. So started googling Triumph prototypes that I could remember off the top of my head. This brought me to Canley Classics site which has some excellent archive materiel on it and voilà. 

See also the TRX... 

... based on the old Bergerac type Roadster. 

And the Italia... 

...which is a TR3 underneath but you can see the TR4 coming through. 

[Yoss]

9 minutes ago, Volksy said:

Wow... Another missed opportunity! 

Yes, if only they'd had the money. Story of the British car industry. 

[Volksy]

What year was it? As it does look like BMW may have been influenced for the CS?

 

 

 

[myglaren]

[LightBulbFun]

twas smashing the crap out of the DVLA/my special tool searching through AC Acedes Model 57 chassis numbers as you do

when this popped up

Steam! on an 07 plate what the actual...

 

little bit of googling later shows it to be one of these

working (and road registered!) scale model of a traction engine https://flic.kr/p/29v4pU6

 

its so amusing/weird to think of/see a steam propelled vehicle on modern plates LOL (kinda surprised they where given modern plates id of half expected such a thing to end up on a Q plate)

how do you even go about registering such a vehicle I wonder...

[vulgalour]

Courtesy of the eBay thread, the Lloyd 650.

[Snipes]

5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

twas smashing the crap out of the DVLA/my special tool searching through AC Acedes Model 57 chassis numbers as you do

when this popped up

Steam! on an 07 plate what the actual...

 

little bit of googling later shows it to be one of these

working (and road registered!) scale model of a traction engine https://flic.kr/p/29v4pU6

 

its so amusing/weird to think of/see a steam propelled vehicle on modern plates LOL (kinda surprised they where given modern plates id of half expected such a thing to end up on a Q plate)

how do you even go about registering such a vehicle I wonder...

As you're probably aware Q is simply when the age of the vehicle can't be properly determined. I'd think type approval would be a much bigger issue, but I'm assuming that little engine is subject to the same standards as any other new vehicle?

[Yoss]

8 hours ago, Volksy said:

What year was it? As it does look like BMW may have been influenced for the CS?

 

 

 

The Vittesse was 1964, the Italia apparently (according to Wikipedia) they built 330 of them between '59 and '63. They were both Michelotti designs though it seems the Italia was built by Vignale. I think even that has shades of BMW CSL in the cab area. 

[Richard_FM]

7 hours ago, vulgalour said:

Courtesy of the eBay thread, the Lloyd 650.

Lloyd made almost all the components for their cars rather than use off the shelf parts, which makes owning them now a challenge.

[martc]

11 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

twas smashing the crap out of the DVLA/my special tool searching through AC Acedes Model 57 chassis numbers as you do

when this popped up

Steam! on an 07 plate what the actual...

 

little bit of googling later shows it to be one of these

working (and road registered!) scale model of a traction engine https://flic.kr/p/29v4pU6

 

its so amusing/weird to think of/see a steam propelled vehicle on modern plates LOL (kinda surprised they where given modern plates id of half expected such a thing to end up on a Q plate)

how do you even go about registering such a vehicle I wonder...

As a frequenter of steam rallies etc 'modern' registered miniature engines are fairly common. I don't think that registering them is too much of a pain as the Construction and Use Regs for steam road vehicles haven't altered much since about eleventy million years ago. Basically it amounts to not allowing ashes and embers to escape. And something about lights and whistles. Getting your boiler certificate is another matter though.

Here's another one taken at random from the t'interwebs. Interestingly this one is registered as a 'Burrel Min. Wagon'. Burrel were a famous builder of steam traction engines who went bust in 1928. I wouldn't have thought you could use another makers name (unless of course the builder of this is called 'Burrel').

[LightBulbFun]

3 minutes ago, martc said:

As a frequenter of steam rallies etc 'modern' registered miniature engines are fairly common. I don't think that registering them is too much of a pain as the Construction and Use Regs for steam road vehicles haven't altered much since about eleventy million years ago. Basically it amounts to not allowing ashes and embers to escape. And something about lights and whistles. Getting your boiler certificate is another matter though.

Here's another one taken at random from the t'interwebs. Interestingly this one is registered as a 'Burrel Min. Wagon'. Burrel were a famous builder of steam traction engines who went bust in 1928. I wouldn't have thought you could use another makers name (unless of course the builder of this is called 'Burrel').

interesting stuff  

Yeah I was wondering about that, they would not exactly be up to todays crash test regulations for example! (mind if you fired a traction engine at a concert/steel block at 30Mph it probably would just go straight through it!)

I knew old steam vehicles where exempt from a lot of stuff, but i was not sure what the low down was for registering something newly built!

I guess all the modern regulations that you have to get kit cars etc through just dont apply to steam propelled vehicles!

 

(I feel contractually obliged to tag @JimH LOL)

[JimH]

Boiler insurance for models isn't that big a gyp. The standards refer to pressure/volume ratios and most models fall into the "sound engineering practice" category rather than having to meet any modern design criteria. I have my own views on this as there appears to be a number of people playing fast and loose with what is or isn't a model.

 

Which sort ofreminds me...

[martc]

1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

I guess all the modern regulations that you have to get kit cars etc through just dont apply to steam propelled vehicles!

You're right - the regulations apply to specific classes of vehicles, and it's the most recent regs that count. And I guess anything to do with steam won't have been updated for donkeys years.

I've had a quick snoop on the web and found this - http://shirevillageinns.co.uk/register/rmte.htm

It looks like someone built a model engine, got it's boiler certified then insured. The DVLA paid a visit and duly registered it and issued a tax disc. Quote - 'the inspection is purely to confirm the identity of the vehicle, not a safety or road-worthiness inspection'. In other words if it looked like what it should do it was registered! But this was in 2008.