Shite and social media: do they mix?

[dugong]

Today was the day I came off several Facebook chod groups. I am of the opinion that never the twain should meet. 
I realise people may disagree.

 

Your thoughts, please. 

[Mr Lobster]

The problem here is the facebook groups themselves which always seem to attract the same sort of utter nonsense regardless of subject matter.

 

Theres plenty of shite friendly stuff on social media, I'm enjoying AlexG / The Beards tour of Italy via twitter at the moment but with twitter its just a case of who you follow but theres loads of interesting stuff out there.

 

Autoshite itself does work far better as a forum than a facebook group though.

[richardmorris]

I've never looked at social meeeeja. Am I missing anything?

[Minimad5]

Just look at Youtube - Started off with some pretty decent videos and comments of both helpful criticism and encouragement.
But now it's full of keyboard warriors and racism. Don't forget 'that' song you've been trying to find for years .

Social media is fine when kept to small numbers, or sadly policed / administrated.

[Sloth in a bowl]

One of the joys of Autoshite is that the low key presence means that you are unlikely to turn up here unless you are pro-autoshite and Dave's simple first 5 posting gateway is also a major muppet filter bonus.

 

Social media is a soul free drifters paradise in which having experienced reality is not conducive to having a major (and socially unappetising) prejudice over which you can have a pointless flame war.**

 

 

** Note that this sentence is a perfect example of the bollocks that turns up on social media, except with some basis of thought behind it.

[Cheggers]

There's quite a few of us on Twitter, along with a whole bunch of random car spotters

[Cavcraft]

They do in certain circumstances, but I think it's better if it's done on friends own pages*. Anything else seems to quickly go down the pan, unless it's a local group or something.

 

*Even then you can soon find something to really piss you off. Like someone's reference to an Irish rockband frontman, for example. 

[EssDeeWon]

Not on face-twitter-books and all that...But I am on Flikr but only follow other car spotters like myself so we can exchange chod spots. Thats it as far as my social media mingling goes...

[brickwall]

Social MEdia is anything but social. More anti-social really.

[Junkman]

Social media don't mix with anything except the GESTAPO.

[HH-R]

"LETS 'AVE A LOOK WHAT'S ON YER SOCIAL MEEEJA"

[Parky]

We could have a Twitter group though, mainly because we can lock it to make sure we don't get followed by some random Austrian who sends tweets about Rammstein occasionally or anyone from the Facebook page.

 

It's quite handy if you are out and about and pap something with your phone that you can't wait to share.

[dollywobbler]

The unofficial 2CVGB page works well on Facebook, but then 2CVs don't tend to attract twats. Odd people, most definitely. But most manage to at least rub along without falling out. Otherwise, FB can quickly leave you losing the will to live. Go hunting in the many classifieds pages to see what I mean. Sheesh.

[garethj]

Forums and Facebook groups are really down to the members.  If you have magnificent, generous, humorous people posting then it'll be quite good, no matter what the subject.

 

Any group can tolerate a couple of cretins as long as there are enough normal people to keep them quiet, if the cretins fight then it's usually difficult to ignore.

 

I only use Facebook and Twitter for my hobby business sideline, so I'm not on there much except for pimping out my stuff.

[philibusmo]

Facebook = NO

Twitter = YES

[CortinaDave]

I find all the facebook groups go round in circles.

 

*pic of rusty car*

 

50 comments , 2 of which are worth reading, the rest a variation of "RACE IT M8" and "bit of t cut lolz"

[HH-R]

I reckon forums don't attract as many drivel comments because they're seen as a bit old hat and geeky, just like the Usenet/BBS users will be thinking these newfangled forum things are full of N00BS.

 

The absolute worst has to be YouTube though, I get sucked in like a whirlpool into reading the absolute b0ll0x posted on there and feeling like my brain has been melted. Fortunately the Firefox addon "Adblock plus - element hiding helper" takes care of them lovely.

[Station]

People putting other people's names in the comments?

[trigger]

I can't handle the AS Facebook group anymore, Too much nastiness, After the post ElectricLeyland made on there recently after he thought someone was getting abused on the group and the backlash he got back i decided that was enough, especially after one of the "admin" (No not Jim, He's one of the good guys) stated how he had never heard of him or seen him post before and had no right to say what he did.

 

I started my own group last night called "We love 1970's motors", so far it's going really well but only time will tell if it stays like that, I'm not holding my breath.

[xtriple]

I've got a facebook account that I used to use a lot. I got it because I have friends in America/Australia and it was a good way of keeping in touch. Then I befriended a couple of Hells Angels (Don't fook with me now boys!) and now I've got 600 odd 'friends'!!!! Most of them are HA and I'm buggered if I'm upsetting them!

 

I know a lot of people who I've added on FB and the young ones on there post the utmost drivel - every pointless (non)event in their day goes on FB and it winds me up. Well, it did, as now I just skim it all and laugh at how utterly pathetic folk are, which just reassures me that my decision to be a grumpy old twat was indeed, correct!

 

Just started using Twitter... not sure about that at all yet, time will tell, but I am keeping up with events in MotoGP and F1.

 

The only group I'm still on on FB is the car salesmans one (invite only) and that's good and nice to keep in touch with people I haven't seen in years. All the other car related groups I had to bin off as they are just FULL of total wankers and mongs.

 

Having said all that, I have to admit I haven't actually posted an 'update' on there in about six months, I just talk to friends via the private messages thingy.

[rml2345]

Facebook is fine for the odd thing but I don't think car groups work very well on it, particularly one as broad as Autoshite. Many Facebookists also seem to be professional keyboard warriors who could have an argument with themselves if no one else was biting. Interesting to watch in a sort of disaster movie sort of way bot not really constructive. The other extreme of that is the "Don't post if you can't say anything nice" school who get upset if you express a negative opinion.
They can be useful on a local level for organising car meets such as the Scotoshite monthly nosh up but anything of interest usually gets cross posted to here anyway. 

[Richard]

People putting other people's names in the comments?

 

I think that's to alert them to a post that somebody thinks might interest them.

 

Are forums not social media, or do they not count?

[Cavcraft]

They probably are, but on forums we're spared seeing the mate of a mate implying he wished cancer on someone and the mate of a mate of a mate of a mate posting up all that Britain First fucking rubbish.

[KruJoe]

Autoshite is my social media.

[Partridge]

I've never looked at social meeeeja. Am I missing anything?

No.

 

But Facebook does work, and work well when groups are moderated correctly and diligently. Very few are. The AROnline Facebook group is a prime example. It's a fucking pantomime. Those of us inside AROnline, including myself, have agreed that it's become a bloody embarrassment and it wants nuking. It will be a major ballache to kill it because the only way to do that is to delete every memeber (there's 4,000 odd members on that group), until you have the last admin left, then they leave.

 

It's 60% people who don't bother to post anything, 10% bellends 10% fake spam/troll accounts 10% deluded wankers 5% people who have an actual interest in the subject and 5% proper AROnline people.

 

The same trolls also set up multiple facebook accounts and admin are often too daft to see through it and let them in again and again and again. Maybe they get a power boner everytime they ban somebody? Trolls are a huge problem. We had one twat put up a picture of a Muslim man shagging a pig and it took a whole day for it get taken down. The only reason I invest so much time in keeping an eye on these things is because AROnline is a very important platform for me, and I care about what brush I'm tarred with.

 

The problem was the wrong people were put in charge of the group, and there's too many admins who just don't check who they're letting in, and let trouble makers back in. And what's worse, some people only look after groups as a power trip.

 

Deleting or blocking twats is one thing, vetting the profiles is something else. I'm admin for a BTCC group and about 2 in 10 of requests I get for the group are fake accounts, probably looking to troll or sell fecking sunglasses. And I'm not the only admin!

 

So to answer your question Dugong, yes, shite does mix with social media. Bellends, trolls, know it alls and twats don't mix with anything. There's just more of them on Facebook etc. How many trouble makers do we get here? About one a year? First "smellmycheese" and then that plonker who tried ripping me off over that Jag. V.S one hundred million billion on Facebook.

[mercrocker]

I wont even look at FB again.  It just winds me up.   It all seems to revolve around the lowest common denominator and brings out the worst in people.   The only computer-based interaction I have is on here or on an Owners Club Forum which is helpful but tends to be dull.   I used to belong to a 1950s music forum but that migrated to FB whereupon it filled with bell-ends making stupid, inflammatory comments or telling me what they had for breakfast.   Oh, and I was on a Flickr group until it was taken over by Internet Gestapo.   This is the only place I feel comfortable, its like an old social club in Blackpool (not sea-front - back street) or that last roadside café that still does fried bread and black pudding.   Them's compliments, by the way.....

[nisfan]

While on the whole i agree, i have also managed to secure my fair share of chod primarily on facebook and many other motor related stuff. I find the AS facebook group a lot better than others eg- We hate 1980s cars etc.

[jonny69]

I agree with most of the comments about how the AS group has gone. I joined it for a while and was put off too.

 

But I'm on a couple of other car-related groups on Facebook and they work really well. Probably why I'm still on them! They tend to be really niche-y stuff though, like speed record teams and hotrod shops. Some groups can be quite effective at self-policing, particularly those groups where the field of interest is very narrow, they just don't attract the types who post off-topic or troll - or at least they don't hang around for long anyway.

[Angrydicky]

I've recently sacked off ARonline and Autoshite facebook groups, too many twats and too much modern rubbish posted.

 

The main reason I'm on there is for the old car groups, there are a fair few decent ones. Most of my "friends" are car people from here and other places, that way my news feed is filled with car stuff and stuff I'm interested in without too much bullshit.

 

You do get people who post an incredible amount of shit on facebook, such as those who update their status five times a day to tell all their "friends" exactly where they are and what they're doing. For example, 'Jonny Chuckles* is at Sainsburys'. Who gives a fuck?? The key to staying sane on facebook is to make sure these people are in a minority on your friends list.

 

Never tried Twitter, I can't see the point in it, hate celebrities and hate hashtags even more.

[Partridge]

A narrow field of interest does indeed make groups loss troll-y and bellend-y. The XJ40 group is a quiet but nice group.

 

That said, I made the mistake of friending somebody from a Jag group who ALWAYS posts Britain First crap. I blocked Briten Furst, which has made my timeline a happier place.