"The Count of Shonky Citro" thanks everyone for your support

[purplebargeken]

That truly was an appaling experience. Some coppers are tosspots, some are decent.

 

A few years back I traded in an Escort for a Bluebird. All was good until about 10am on a Sunday morning when the most obnoxious and annoying arse of a WPC banged on the door demanding to know if I was the owner of said Escort. No I said, why do you want to know? Yes, you are she replied, and it is blocking an ambulance bay in Ealing.

 

Throughout all of this I was very polite and calm. She followed me upstairs to the back bedroom and I showed her the paperwork from the dealer. Hmmph went the WPC. Bye bye said I and she stormed off without saying anything else.

 

I also swopped a Kawasaki ZRX100 for a Pan European in 2004. Over the next 2 months I was bombarded with speeding fines. Again I just sent off copies of the sales receipt and nothing more was heard. The speeder was a bit of a knob as the tickets were all for offences at the same stretch. The cops could have had a good nick if they had been a bit more aware.

 

The last straw however was about 5 years ago. I live in North London and there are a number of prats who ride scooters locally. Anyway, this one particular scooter was razzing up and down the road one evening and was also being ridden on the pavement. After a few minutes a small Fiat pulls up with one lad and his gf in it. He then gets out and walks off with the rider of the scooter. The gf is standing up in the car looking really anxious and agitated. I thought this looked uber dodgy and phoned the cops. The stupid arse on the phone asks me how I know the girl is anxious and agitated. I replied that as a psychiatric nurse I think that I would be more than qualified to tell. We'll send someone round they say. Nothing happens. 5 mins later the 2 lads come back carrying baseball bats and ski masks which get slung in the boot of the Fiat. I then phone plod again and get through to New Scotland Yard. I said that I had phoned earlier and just explained what had transpired. We'll send someone there immediately said the operator. End of call.

 

Nothing happens so I get on the phone again. I said that they could have caught these 2 prats redhanded if they had managed to get their fingers out, I gave the details of the 2 herberts and their vehicles and told the operator in no uncertain terms that I would never bother phoning the police ever again as they were so bloody useless. The main issue with this is that the Divisional HQ is 5 minutes down the road

 

I also had a mate who I'd known from school. He left school and became a printer. A couple of years later I bumped into him at the local ShitFit and he told me he was going to become a copper. After 5 minutes of laughing I was eventually able to hold a conversation. He was a bit miffed by my response. A couple of years later I bumped into him in the local town centre. He went on to tell me that he had stopped our good mate's older brother on the East Lancs road one evening. He kept him at the roadside for nearly an hour before letting him go. He found this hilarious. He'd also gone back to his old place of work and told them what a bunch of losers they were. He said that people should respect him as he was a copper. I started laughing at him and reminded him that respect should be earned and that he was an asshole. He was still spluttering as I walked off. What a cock.

 

I was riding home one evening after work in Hammersmith. I was waiting to turn right and had a scooter rider at the side of me. This Rover 25 came hurtling up behind us, sounding his horn and virtually forced us out of the way before turning left. He then sat in the stationary traffic as I came up behind him and his mate with my full beam on (100w bulb). I pulled along side him and shouted into the open window that he was a wanker. He shouted back that he was a police officer. I replied that still makes you a wanker and a shit driver. He was shouting at me as I err, quickly rode off through the traffic. I did keep an eye on my mirror for a few minutes afterwards just in case but the traffic was that heavy he'd have had more joy running after me

 

Anyway, that's enough reminiscing, now back to what happened here. I hope that you do get some kind of redress from this experience as it sounds bloody horrendous. It would be an awful shame to quit being a 'shitter'. Please keep the faith.

 

Take it easy and good luck.

 

Ken

[HillmanImp]

I hope this is not all a really good ruse into not picking up the Volvo?

[DSdriver]

Sell your story to the Sun, at least you'll get a few bob. Look, you should get top rate as I have done the major copywriting for them. I have even spelt the name wrong...

 

SICK SON SUES

POLICE FOR WRONGFUL ARREST

The son of JUDGE_SCOUTER is going to sue the old bill...

[e287yba]

... The main issue with this is that the Divisional HQ is 5 minutes down the road ...

 

That may be the case, but sadly it doesn't mean it's used as a base for bizzies working in the community . There is now ONE police station in Bolton, open office hours only, where one can speak to a drone on the desk - this station is the Divisional HQ, open 24/7/365 until the recent cuts. There were 3 others open office hours in locations which were rather more convenient for the majority of the public (the Divs' HQ is adjacent the old Burnden Park stadium), they are now closed to us. This is a better service, apparently...

 

 

Vaguely back on topic as regards this thread, if the police attend a road accident here (north side of Bolton) it's usually Lancashire police in attendance despite being (just) in Greater Manchester. The nearest GMP Roads Policing Unit base is in Leigh; the second nearest is, I believe, Oldham, and the third (final) one is in Stockport I seem to recall. Get yer AA Map of Great Britain out and look at how they are distributed . Three left now (and none in Bolton, Bury or Rochdale), until recently there were five. Not too long before that I believe most of the "ten towns" had one...

 

The "only 2.5% of the police staff are available on the streets at any one time" factoid is well exposed nowadays. For example, there is usually a maximum of 6 'general' police officers generally on patrol in the whole of Bolton (traffic would come on top of this, as would part of a dog unit because they are shared between divisions nowadays, etc), and all it needs is 2 shoplifters to reduce that to, well, a couple at best - if the shoplifters need "helping" into custody then there are no police on patrol in Bolton for the time being... Friday and Saturday nights are an exception to this, of course, but as a rule "the thin blue line" is thinner than we would like.

 

Of course, the gendarmes are usually wasting their time carrying out "social work" 'cos Wayne texted her that he will kill Waynetta's new partner innit! or put it on the Book of Faeces bro! - see Jeremy Kyle (on the hanted fishtank now, actually, must dash! ) to see the major reason policing isn't as effective as we might like it to be. If said members of this underclass choose to sponge (and it is a viable lifestyle choice with all the tax credits, rent & council tax paid for them and so on) then cut their benefits and starve them into work or the sea, is my answer .

 

 

Regardless, there's some major losing of the plot - as well as losing sight of the fact that the police are supposed to be providing a service not locking themselves away in their ivory towers and/or hassling the generally law-abiding vast majority - is going on here, from central government down.

[Lord Sterling]

I was sort of pulled up by 2 of WMs finest at 2am this morning. I'd just finished work, rolled very slowly up slowly to some traffic lights but braked abrubtly when I saw one of those Police Citroen vans pulled up at the junction (I was slightly passed the line). He then proceeded and parked up at the side of the road until I passed him, a while later I saw him follow me. I knew he was following me so I pulled into a parking space near a post box in Bearwood, as he was following too close he couldnt pull up next to me so had to park a few cars down and walk up.

 

This lady copper walked up and started asking me questions but she quickly ran out of questions, before she could try and ask anymore I asked her where collegue was, he was standing a few meters away behind me out of my sight, young male copper dude with that screwed up 'wanna foight mayte' look in his face, probably perturbed at me asking them questions. After he saw my licence, everything checked out and he explained why they had pulled me up. I just thought fair dos to be honest, they are only doing thier job.

 

I think it depends who deal with/where you are. Unfortunately being dealt with is always a gamble regarding who deals with you. Sometimes you might get the nicest copper on the beat who only wants to help, then again, you might get someone who is either too eager/wet behind the ears or simply a bastard. You have to remember, these people have to deal with many of the scum/mouthbreathers/wastes of spaces that me and you hope to never deal with so some coppers can be a little gung-ho at times.

 

I've had good an bad dealings with the Police in the passed, when some little cunt tried to steal my old Sterling a couple of years back, a T5 was here within a few minutes, the next day a Policeman came to see me and advised me on how to secure my car more, even hinting that my car was nice.

 

Despite what people think of coppers here, you should really try and deal with coppers in Belguim, now they really are bastards....

[forddeliveryboy]

There are lots of good police officers, sadly I know of a few who were very good but who've left the force because of the daft way it is being structured and run. And as in so many other walks of life, it seems those with the loudest mouth and fewest principles 'get on'. Long known as a place to go for those who don't succeed academically, the combination of an unpleasant personality with a lack of brains can result in a very unpleasant person. Many years ago those who seemed rather too eager or full of themselves were whittled out in the selection process.

 

The installation of Big Brother technology in police cars seems to have brought out an extra unpleasant characteristic in some police, having complete disregard for what is staring them in the face, if the computer disagrees. A similar situation has occurred in legal circles, where every single bit of evidence can point against a theory which DNA appears to support. Even if a computer database shows one thing, the other can be true since these databases rely on humans to program and feed in data.

 

I reckon some police feel between a rock and a hard place trying to please their bosses as well as do their duty - I'd be quicker to lay the blame at management than the bloke at street level. With the right leadership, those with tendencies to heavy-handedness could be brought round to see the other approach working better, while the genuine bad eggs shoud be booted out quicky.

 

As for DVLA, the less said the better.

 

Regarding insurance and road tax, we should issue licence plates yearly on the production of insurance and MoT. It's almost as if this country cares less about crime than revenue generated. The whole SORN debacle is quite subversive, something central govt should never be seen to be.

 

It seems a long time since you were innocent until proven otherwise in the UK now, having to prove your innocence is something which appears to be the norm. Not good at all.

[The Moog]

I have to say every time I have been stopped or arrested they have been fine for me.

 

Once got arrested in a club at Uni becasue a dealer had been nicked and said that I had sold him a load of pills (I hadnt). Police were perfectly fine with me and sussed straight away it was wrong even though I had to have strip search etc. Got an offer of a lift home and everything.

 

Everytime with traffic stops they have been pretty good.

 

but i would be very fff'd off if I was in Scooters position. it is a case of common sense has left the building never to return..

[Father Ted]

 

But most are OK and just doing a job that many of us wouldnt do. If you think about it, the Law only works because we allow it to, given the number of Plod Vs the rest of us, they wouldnt stand a chance in an uprising, and Im sure that goes through their heads every time they take to the streets. Certainly it goes through mine when I go into work or have to go into the more unpleasant areas of work (no, im not a copper). Having been at ground zero when its all been kicking off its not a pleasant time.

 

So, some coppers good, some coppers arseholes. Bit like life in general really.

[MrDuke]

The one negative/abusive experience I've had with the police, was when I was 15 and a WPC yelled at me for cycling through the pedestrian town centre.

 

I've been pulled about half a dozen times, and never experienced any bad attitude fortunately. Even the time when I threw a German-plated car round a corner by a school rather fast without a seatbelt, they were really polite while fining me

 

Obviously this post isn't remotely constructive to the OP, sorry about that. I would definitely be going to the local rag with that story though, at the very least. Carting innocent sick/disabled persons off in the night over old traffic 'offenses' would make desirable headlines indeed.

[Pete-M]

I've had a few brushes with the Dibble over the years, but even though I've met a few truly awful examples I've got to say I've met just as many excellent officers.

 

It can't be an easy job, and they are lumped with billions of rules about what they can and can't do when a bit of common sense would make more sense, but it's not something I'd want to do for a living. Not even if I got to chase folk in fast cars.

 

Nah, give 'em due. There are tossers in every walk of life, it's just that uniforms can make some tossers ten times worse. We do need the Police, they do do a lot of things we all take for granted and do them brilliantly.

 

I know there are a few 'bobbies' who read and post on here who've said nothing. That can't be easy with some of the stuff being said here, but it's a sign that the boys in blue are better than we think and take a lot of shit on a daily basis. Can't be easy.

[vulgalour]

I keep misreading GMP as Gimps. Sorry.

[e287yba]

I keep misreading GMP as Gimps. Sorry.

 

I did type that freudian slip a couple of times (but caught it - I think I've slagged them off enough for one thread ) !

 

 

And yes, other posters have said there are plenty of good police officers about - I very much agree, but they just don't generally get noticed .

[iFool]

I had a very similar situation a few years ago. Write to the chief cuntstable but it'll do you no good because the pigs just close ranks. The pca are a waste of time. Local MP? Mine advised me to drop it - "start making trouble for the coppers Son, and they'll never leave you alone". Sadly, the few decent common sense bobbies are outnumbered by the kind of wankers you experienced - unpleasant little Nazis.

[MrDuke]

it's not something I'd want to do for a living. Not even if I got to chase folk in fast cars.

 

Also this, even in a non-metropolitan area. If a drunken twat was swearing at/threatening me, I imagine I'd just laugh it off. However, if I got called out to a domestic case with a smashed-up female I couldn't even begin to restrain myself.

[Cavcraft]

I've had a few brushes with the Dibble over the years, but even though I've met a few truly awful examples I've got to say I've met just as many excellent officers.

 

It can't be an easy job, and they are lumped with billions of rules about what they can and can't do when a bit of common sense would make more sense, but it's not something I'd want to do for a living. Not even if I got to chase folk in fast cars.

 

Nah, give 'em due. There are tossers in every walk of life, it's just that uniforms can make some tossers ten times worse. We do need the Police, they do do a lot of things we all take for granted and do them brilliantly.

 

I know there are a few 'bobbies' who read and post on here who've said nothing. That can't be easy with some of the stuff being said here, but it's a sign that the boys in blue are better than we think and take a lot of shit on a daily basis. Can't be easy.

 

/\

Superbly put.

 

I expect a lot of people who call them 'pigs' and 'nazis' are also straight on the phone to them if their house or car gets screwed.

[dollywobbler]

Seems pretty laughable to call them Nazis. Honestly. Do they run around torturing and gassing people? If they do, they cover it up well!

[Louise2cv]

Seems pretty laughable to call them Nazis. Honestly. Do they run around torturing and gassing people? If they do, they cover it up well!

 

I once parked my car in front of a traffic warden, as I got out and locked up I heard she was advising the driver in front to move back a bit because he wasn't in the marked bay and technically that was a ticket. Some random guy walked up to me and made a comment about how she was a f*cking nazi. I gave him mouthful about the persecution of people on the grounds of race, religion, ethnicity and sexuality and how comparing traffic wardens to Nazis was disrespectful to both her and the victims of such persecution. He opened and closed his mouth a few times with no sound coming out then left. I've never back-chatted like that to anyone before or since, but it really wound me up. Bellend.

 

I think we can't tar all cops with the same brush and actually hearing some of the things they do have to deal with, I'm glad there are people who'll do the job. It's a shame some of them cock up sometimes or that some go OTT, but name a job/profession where that doesn't happen.

[autofive]

Local MP? Mine advised me to drop it - "start making trouble for the coppers Son, and they'll never leave you alone".

You let yourself be fobbed off.

 

you don't ask your MP politely if he/she would like to think about doing something. You tell he/she of your wishes, if they dont reply within the 14 days (ask for reply within 14 days) then moan to their agent, then local party officials etc etc.

[scooters]

Countries don't go bad overnight. It takes years of chip chip chipping away at hard fought freedoms...usually because it makes someone's life a bit easier...after a while it becomes the norm behaviour acceptable cos the computer says it is...the Nazis didn't start gassing Jews overnight...the erosion of their rights and worse the German people's acceptance of it as the norm started by police being given one statutory power after another. See 'Nazi Terror' by Eric Johnson, a ten year study based on first hand and eye witness evidence of the slow extension of the German police from public servants to genocidal criminals and you can see the pattern and why it is very important to nip this sort of thing in the bud. The old saying

 

Quid praetor ipso praetorium

 

(Who polices the police?)

 

Is as relevant today as it was when some Roman said it 2000 odd years ago.

 

Thanks for all your good wishes, family still very upset about it..the sort of thing a five year old remembers.

[e287yba]

Like "death by a thousand cuts"; one doesn't notice until the 'process' - of proper policing, in this case? - is well-advanced .

 

Without wishing to sound like a complete and utter retard maniac , people - not just here, but generally (it's noticeable on civil liberty websites, for example) - are finally taking notice.

 

There's a current/recent thread on PistonHeads discussing Night Club Bouncers having a butchers at Patrons' FaecesBook poofiles to confirm their ID. The majority as of teatime tonight thought this was A Good Thing (or couldn't see what was wrong with it - it's better than asking trick questions about starsigns and dates of birth according to at least one poster) ...

 

If you haf nothink to hide you haf nothing to fear! was a quote in the original (being cynical, BBC-typical-current-news "public information" Propoganda) article

 

Would the punters have gone along with this a few short years ago

 

"Death by a thousand cuts" seems to sum it up for UK2012 plc .

[Morgan84]

I would start by writing to your local MP

 

Then I would contact the Police complaints department

 

Next I would contact the local press,and maybe a bigger paper like The Sun who love to splash dirt about

 

Make life as embarrasing and unplesant for the prats responsible for this disgusting treatment,and be sure they get well and truly grilled for it

 

Finally - treat yourself to a new Shite - you've earned it !

[Guest]

I haven't read the lot I'll admit but I can sympathise Scooters.

i got pulled and yep no note of my bike insurance on the MID.

Great.

So after 15 mins they suddenly decide they smell alcohol.

Oh really. You do, do you?

Now I've worked as a bailliff so don't get animated in a sitaution.

The reason they suddenly "smelt alcohol" ? I have terrible stammer when it comes to stuff I have to say, like name/address etc... great.

So they thought my stammer was cos I was pissed.

When did I last have a drink? oooooh 4 months previous.

I did ask was my stammer their reason for the breath test? Oddly they both found trees/sky/passing traffic interesting.

As an aside why do they think they need to look hard? Tattoos. Shaved heads. Muppets.

[M'coli]

Next I would contact the local press,and maybe a bigger paper like The Sun

I'd rather eat horse shit than contact that propaganda machine, even before the Leveson enquiry took place.

[loserone]

Quid praetor ipso praetorium

 

(Who polices the police?)

If the police police police police, who polices the police police? Police police police police police police!

 

This thread is full of terrible experiences, and I hope that they are less indicative of the future as they are of the past. I somehow doubt it :S

[MrDuke]

As an aside why do they think they need to look hard? Tattoos. Shaved heads. Muppets.

 

I could be wrong, but I imagine it wasn't that many years ago that visible tattoos would have instantly prevented you getting beyond an application to join the force? Not that there's owt wrong with having a tat, but it shows how desperate they're probably getting for recruits. I don't think it's a local gov't policy for them to employ thugs, but if no-one else wants to join up they probably don't have much choice.

[Cavcraft]

At this juncture I'd just like to point out that not everyone who has tattoos and shaves their head is a thug.

 

As you were...

[MrDuke]

At this juncture I'd just like to point out that not everyone who has tattoos and shaves their head is a thug.

 

As you were...

 

Sorry, didn't really mean it like that I was just making the point that however strict entry requirements are, the fact that they're no longer enforced shows how desperate they are. Regardless of how un-thuggish and well-rounded the individual might be, I can't see that tattoos & shaved hair are a good look for front-line public servants - call me old-fashioned/a wanker but small details count imo.

[iFool]

Countries don't go bad overnight. It takes years of chip chip chipping away at hard fought freedoms...usually because it makes someone's life a bit easier...after a while it becomes the norm behaviour acceptable cos the computer says it is...the Nazis didn't start gassing Jews overnight...the erosion of their rights and worse the German people's acceptance of it as the norm started by police being given one statutory power after another. See 'Nazi Terror' by Eric Johnson, a ten year study based on first hand and eye witness evidence of the slow extension of the German police from public servants to genocidal criminals and you can see the pattern and why it is very important to nip this sort of thing in the bud. The old saying

 

Quid praetor ipso praetorium

 

(Who polices the police?)

 

Is as relevant today as it was when some Roman said it 2000 odd years ago.

 

Thanks for all your good wishes, family still very upset about it..the sort of thing a five year old remembers.

. Indeed. However, there is always some self-righteous moral beacon to drag up the holocaust.

[Louise2cv]

Who? Me?

[dollywobbler]

Countries don't go bad overnight. It takes years of chip chip chipping away at hard fought freedoms...usually because it makes someone's life a bit easier...after a while it becomes the norm behaviour acceptable cos the computer says it is...the Nazis didn't start gassing Jews overnight...the erosion of their rights and worse the German people's acceptance of it as the norm started by police being given one statutory power after another. See 'Nazi Terror' by Eric Johnson, a ten year study based on first hand and eye witness evidence of the slow extension of the German police from public servants to genocidal criminals and you can see the pattern and why it is very important to nip this sort of thing in the bud. The old saying

 

Quid praetor ipso praetorium

 

(Who polices the police?)

 

Is as relevant today as it was when some Roman said it 2000 odd years ago.

 

Thanks for all your good wishes, family still very upset about it..the sort of thing a five year old remembers.

. Indeed. However, there is always some self-righteous moral beacon to drag up the holocaust.

 

Oh sod off. While Scooters has a point, one copper who doesn't know his onions hardly represents the start of a dictatorship. As has been said, you get idiots in all walks of life, even the emergency services. Complain when things go wrong and be glad that doing so won't result in you disappearing.