Daewoo Esperos

[danthecapriman]

1 hour ago, sierraman said:

I remember reading the trade didn’t like them as a part chop. I think it was the Lada situation again, you had to go back and chop it against another to get anything like a proper price for it. 

I seem to remember that now you say. I think they struggled to sell them and they sat around taking up space on forecourt’s. 
I remember working on quite a lot of the big Laganza’s. They looked a bit bland but they always seemed really well kitted out. But compared to anything with similar equipment spec they were always worth next to nothing and nobody (except cost conscious old people!) wanted them. 
I haven’t actually seen one in many years now.

[Richard_FM]

12 hours ago, hammy said:

ABS pumps are the issue, very expensive to fix. 

OK I knew it was something in the ABS system.

[MiniMort]

21 hours ago, sierraman said:

I remember reading the trade didn’t like them as a part chop. I think it was the Lada situation again, you had to go back and chop it against another to get anything like a proper price for it. 

One of the unusual ways Daewoo tried to get around depreciation was by taking back all the cars on an M reg and replacing them with shiny new N reg examples. That way, they could practically set their own depreciation rate, plus fix any teething issues drivers experienced too.

That said, it mustn't have worked too well. Don't think I've ever seen an M reg Daewoo outside of a few road tests from the era. Were they sold or scrapped?

[sierraman]

22 minutes ago, MiniMort said:

One of the unusual ways Daewoo tried to get around depreciation was by taking back all the cars on an M reg and replacing them with shiny new N reg examples. That way, they could practically set their own depreciation rate, plus fix any teething issues drivers experienced too.

That said, it mustn't have worked too well. Don't think I've ever seen an M reg Daewoo outside of a few road tests from the era. Were they sold or scrapped?

Probably exported. 

[sierraman]

19 hours ago, danthecapriman said:

I seem to remember that now you say. I think they struggled to sell them and they sat around taking up space on forecourt’s. 
I remember working on quite a lot of the big Laganza’s. They looked a bit bland but they always seemed really well kitted out. But compared to anything with similar equipment spec they were always worth next to nothing and nobody (except cost conscious old people!) wanted them. 
I haven’t actually seen one in many years now.

🤣🤣 Yeah they were one of those cars old giffers would buy, drawing down a huge chunk out of their pension. They’d really have wanted an S Type but could only get the Leganza, it’d have done about 30,000 doing Sunday trips to the coast. After a few years they were practically unsaleable, high tax killed a lot of them off. 

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, MiniMort said:

One of the unusual ways Daewoo tried to get around depreciation was by taking back all the cars on an M reg and replacing them with shiny new N reg examples. That way, they could practically set their own depreciation rate, plus fix any teething issues drivers experienced too.

That said, it mustn't have worked too well. Don't think I've ever seen an M reg Daewoo outside of a few road tests from the era. Were they sold or scrapped?

I'd forgotten that. I knew someone who did it, turned him into a loyal Daewoo customer.

[hammy]

On 19/05/2024 at 14:15, lesapandre said:

Esperatti

Esperatti are the small band of Espero owners.

[andrew e]

A few snippets from Daewoo market entrance:

Where the hell did they go!

[andrew e]

I forgot to add my mates dad had a nearly new plated one in the late 90’s in Basildon orange and white taxi colours, no worse than the cavilers from memory, I’m sure it was plated quite a while. 

This one used to be local old giffer special, been gone a few years but google says it made it to 2015. Sadly bungalow's being stretched every which way as we speak…

[andrew e]

It gets better it towed a folding caravan 😂

[hammy]

Moved the green one out, as the ockshun ends Saturday.  That has allowed me to immobilise the parts car now. 

[hammy]

[grogee]

2 minutes ago, hammy said:

If you move them closer together will you get a Matiz in 9 months? 

[HillmanImp]

So, has the buyer made contact of have they vanished into the void that seems to swallow people up at the end of the auction?

[SunnySouth]

More and more excited from a Bus Shite perspective with every new pic! 😁

A Lynx….phwoaar! Plus some Abus action and is that Scania in mock Portsmouth Corporation colours as per a certain Portsmuthian coach company? Tasty! A proper Yard O Shite!

Sent from the top deck of a 24 plate bussssss!

[RoverFolkUs]

On 20/05/2024 at 10:20, hammy said:

ABS pumps are the issue, very expensive to fix. 

I'd say it's generally true of any 80's/90's vehicle fitted with ABS thats its probably the biggest liability thing to go wrong and write the car off, that K plate Mondeo on here was enough of a struggle and that was a very mainstream car back in its day! Nobody is making the parts any more, and increasingly fewer people are going to have the parts/equipment/technical info/inclination to overhaul obscure ABS modules as the cars get rarer

[hammy]

Silver one is putting up a fight, but gradually wearing it down.

Hopefully the green one leaves for it's new owner on Friday with the silver one following it shortly after on a scrap wagon. 

 

 

[hammy]

Maybe the last photo of these two, the green car is due to go tomorrow to it's new owner. 

[Pieman]

On 15/05/2024 at 11:59, sierraman said:

Banger racers will be all over that! 

In all the years I've commentated on Bangers I don't think I've ever seen one of these get raced.

[danthecapriman]

2 hours ago, hammy said:

Maybe the last photo of these two, the green car is due to go tomorrow to it's new owner. 

What actually happened to the silver scrap car?

It looks like it went arse over tit and travelled a distance on its roof! 
Pity really given how few are left, but at least it’s provided parts.

[AnthonyG]

I was about to ask what happened to it, I had assumed it had been in a scrapyard with something else on top of it. 

Is the resemblance of these to the Citroen Xantia purely a coincidence? 

[MantaGTE85]

DVE must be the very last of the Esperos, being a June '97 car. I've certainly never noticed any R reg Esperos, if there is such a thing. And the grey one HLM had its first MOT at 15 years old with a very tiny 9000 miles. It still looks great.

[GeordieInExile]

How good are these in relation to the Cavalier on which they're based?

[hammy]

10 hours ago, danthecapriman said:

What actually happened to the silver scrap car?

It looks like it went arse over tit and travelled a distance on its roof! 
Pity really given how few are left, but at least it’s provided parts.

The owner 2 previous put it into a dropped ditch. It's screwed the passenger side A-pillar and roof.  Shame as it was a 2.0 CDXI and very tidy car 

 

 

[hammy]

9 hours ago, AnthonyG said:

I was about to ask what happened to it, I had assumed it had been in a scrapyard with something else on top of it. 

Is the resemblance of these to the Citroen Xantia purely a coincidence? 

The design is Bertone's Xantia offering, however it was declined and Citroen went with their own design. There are clear similarities 

[hammy]

9 hours ago, MantaGTE85 said:

DVE must be the very last of the Esperos, being a June '97 car. I've certainly never noticed any R reg Esperos, if there is such a thing. And the grey one HLM had its first MOT at 15 years old with a very tiny 9000 miles. It still looks great.

There are a few R reg cars, but I've not seen one in years. I think DVE might have been a Kenning rental car when new. 

HLM was owned by Daewoo initially, and I've got the sales paperwork when it left them a year later. It's been generally well cared for but will need some work for a new test. 

[hammy]

13 hours ago, Pieman said:

In all the years I've commentated on Bangers I don't think I've ever seen one of these get raced.

Me either, not an Espero or Nexia. I'm surprised as they are GM mechanicals and therefore I'd imagine quite easy to build up.

[GR8 PL8 M8]

On 30/05/2024 at 23:49, MantaGTE85 said:

DVE must be the very last of the Esperos, being a June '97 car. I've certainly never noticed any R reg Esperos, if there is such a thing. And the grey one HLM had its first MOT at 15 years old with a very tiny 9000 miles. It still looks great.

I have an R reg Espero, first registered 29th December 1997.

Sadly in worse condition now, it will be for sale soon (but I've been saying that since November).

[GR8 PL8 M8]

On 30/05/2024 at 22:23, danthecapriman said:

What actually happened to the silver scrap car?

It looks like it went arse over tit and travelled a distance on its roof! 
Pity really given how few are left, but at least it’s provided parts.

Here's the photo, fortunately there were no injuries.

Bonus LDV!

[danthecapriman]

8 minutes ago, GR8 PL8 M8 said:

Here's the photo, fortunately there were no injuries.

Bonus LDV!

Jesus!! What a shame. Glad nobody was hurt though.