Are there any unrestored fast escorts left?

[garbaldy]

6 hours ago, Timewaster said:

SA Escort Sports often turn up at anglia car auction. 

You can usually spot them as they are odd colours. The last one I saw was AS beige. 

This guy has brought thousands in from SA and has been going for years, he's always got new stock and sells them quickly,  some are mint and some needing work but he describes his cars very honestly.

 

[Rab]

This is an extremely slow resto thats going on in my village...local stalker...former rally mechanic for Peugeot.Its a really good solid shell.

[omegod]

Knowing what we know now what would you stash away for the future? Mk1 RS focus ? ST170 ? 

[bunglebus]

I'd love another MK2. I think there are a few cherished unrestored sporty ones left, but most ended up looking like this

they don't really get patina, they rot, up the inner arches, spare wheel well, chassis rails, all the bolt-on panels and worst of all the vent in the C pillar

[garbaldy]

 

9 minutes ago, omegod said:

Knowing what we know now what would you stash away for the future? Mk1 RS focus ? ST170 ? 

The st,s can still be had under a grand too and this one was in Kelso so on the doorstep.

[MisterH]

17 minutes ago, omegod said:

Knowing what we know now what would you stash away for the future? Mk1 RS focus ? ST170 ? 

Ford: Focus ST170 and the 1.6 Zetec

Non-Ford: Mazda RX-8s

[Angrydicky]

A local garage owner owns one of the works rally MK1 Escorts. He bought it back in the late 80s when he found it rotting in a field, and has stored it ever since. It's rotten as a pear apparently, but he knows what it is and, again, it's his retirement project.

Someone applied for a logbook for it and when he told the DVLA he still owned it (logbook in his name) plod supposedly came knocking asking to see the car and check the numbers to make sure it was the genuine article because there were two cars with the same details.

He showed them around it and they were satisfied.

P.S. this is secondhand information so some details may not be 100% correct, but that's the essence of the story.

[Noel Tidybeard]

just remember 150% of all mexicos made are still in existence

[anonymous user]

19 minutes ago, Noel Tidybeard said:

just remember 150% of all mexicos made are still in existence

And I'm sure there are still a few vin plates and v5s just waiting to be reunited with their "original" cars.

[Rab]

Theres a RS2000 needing a 2nd restoration sitting in a garage we know in Edinburgh...its not for sale...they've had it a long time.

[Squire_Dawson]

Here’s mine:

 

[junkyarddog]

16 minutes ago, Squire_Dawson said:

Here’s mine:

 

Oh my!!!

I would love an original unmodified RS2000,preferably in black.

That's a beauty.

[MisterH]

1 hour ago, Squire_Dawson said:

Here’s mine:

 

Absolute stunner, what's that story behind it if you don't mind my asking?

[bunglebus]

My friend is negotiating the purchase of this Mex, supposedly a very original unmolested Mex but with a 2.1 

 

[DodgeRover]

I knew of an original BDA engined MK1 rally car that had never been restored but it had been rebuilt so many times you would be hard pressed to find an original part except the engine, it was reshelled at least once in its rallying career.

[sierraman]

I think that’s the norm for a rally car, inevitably at some point in its career it’ll bend the shell so necessitate a reshell.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

That’s quite normal for all Escorts, two days before my oldest was born I went with a mate to pick up a damaged repairable Mk2 RS2000, put it on a trailer behind my 2.3 Ghia Cortina. It went back on the road within a couple of weeks , thanks to a nice 2 door 1300 Sport and some brand new genuine front wings . Even in 1987 they were a rare find and cost more than the shell. We discovered during the resell that both the RS2000 and the 1300 Sport were both ringers, we weren’t that surprised.

Anyway he drove it for about 10 years then parked it up when it was too rotten to MOT, after another 5 years he put new floor pans etc in it and repainted it.. got it good enough to get it back on the road for a few more years. Six years ago he did it all again , this time getting a new vinyl roof and a proper paint job, it’s not concours by any stretch but still worth a bloody fortune.

 

[Missy Charm]

On 12/14/2021 at 7:32 PM, omegod said:

Knowing what we know now what would you stash away for the future? Mk1 RS focus ? ST170 ? 

Mk1 Mondeo, certainly.  

[sierraman]

Let’s use the above then to see if you’d make a fortune. Assuming you bought a Mk1 Mondeo and stored in a council lock up for 10 years so it’s then at the equivalent age to a Mk5 Cortina. Say you paid £1,000 for this Mondeo, stored it for 10 years at £100 a month (conservative estimate), total cost over ten years to store it then £12,000. So when it’s dragged out in ten years time, rotten as fuck and the engine and clutch seized are you going to get £13,000 back on it to break even? Any given Mk5 Cortina that’s getting dragged out of an old lock up isn’t going for that that’s for sure. 

TL:DR if you want an ST170, buy one spend a few years giving it some stick and then when the sills fall off in chunks 3ft long then weigh it in.

[Missy Charm]

4 hours ago, sierraman said:

Let’s use the above then to see if you’d make a fortune. Assuming you bought a Mk1 Mondeo and stored in a council lock up for 10 years so it’s then at the equivalent age to a Mk5 Cortina. Say you paid £1,000 for this Mondeo, stored it for 10 years at £100 a month (conservative estimate), total cost over ten years to store it then £12,000. So when it’s dragged out in ten years time, rotten as fuck and the engine and clutch seized are you going to get £13,000 back on it to break even? Any given Mk5 Cortina that’s getting dragged out of an old lock up isn’t going for that that’s for sure. 

TL:DR if you want an ST170, buy one spend a few years giving it some stick and then when the sills fall off in chunks 3ft long then weigh it in.

That's often the problem: speculative routes to easy money are often only open to those with money in the first place; it's how the rich get richer.  Take your example but imagine that instead of being Joe Soap with a council lockup, you are Farmer Giles with a lovely, dry, heated and presently unused barn.  You can then quite easily store a Ford Mondeo and, because you've got some land and private roads, give it a run out every couple of months.  It costs you nothing to keep the car and all the while its value increases.  

[sierraman]

1 hour ago, Missy Charm said:

That's often the problem: speculative routes to easy money are often only open to those with money in the first place; it's how the rich get richer.  Take your example but imagine that instead of being Joe Soap with a council lockup, you are Farmer Giles with a lovely, dry, heated and presently unused barn.  You can then quite easily store a Ford Mondeo and, because you've got some land and private roads, give it a run out every couple of months.  It costs you nothing to keep the car and all the while its value increases.  

A unused barn is losing you money, you could be renting it out. Easiest way with that would be renting it out at several hundred quid a month to someone that thinks 1995 Mondeos will be £20,000 in 10 years time.