The grumpy thread

[Rover414]

But there are probably a lot of people who don't want any violence. You are right they probably would be cowardly when there are groups of people about, that is why they waiting until night time though. I can see what you're saying but at the same time they can just wait until it normally closes (8pm) and go down and cause crap then. Though the police should really know where they are likely to be by now as it's pretty obvious but it only remains to be seen what will be done.

 

Another thing that bothers me about this is that locally the Echos piss poor reporting comes out clear as day.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I can see what you're saying but at the same time they can just wait until it normally closes (8pm) and go down and cause crap then.

 

That certainly is a possibility, but there's no reason to give them more time and space than we have to.

 

Another thing that bothers me about this is that locally the Echos piss poor reporting comes out clear as day.

 

The local papers are like zombies- they have died years ago and fuck knows what's keeping them 'alive'. Spelling/grammar errors galore, no cross-checking of any sources, verbatim reproduction of press releases without any critical thinking, little or no reporting on local council activity, all in all a pile of shite...

[Rover414]

 

That certainly is a possibility, but there's no reason to give them more time and space than we have to.

 

 

The local papers are like zombies- they have died years ago and fuck knows what's keeping them 'alive'. Spelling/grammar errors galore, no cross-checking of any sources, verbatim reproduction of press releases without any critical thinking, little or no reporting on local council activity, all in all a pile of shite...

 

You're right no space should be given to them, I guess some people are genuinely worried for innocent people though. Realistically police should be flooding the streets to make their presence known, instead of coming out a while after it's all kicked off.

 

 

You're right about local papers too, the Echo is woefully bad for its news stories though, I remember an incident on the bus one time where a lad was being bullied by some older thugs and people from his (our) school were defending him, what did the Echo print? That people from our school were bullying him, way to go now they're on about 10 year olds rioting and almost shying away from the fact that there were supposedly fully grown adults involved.

[Des]

I bugger off for a long weekend away and come back to this shite riot bollocks, just popped to the Tesco Local around the corner for milk, note on the door says closed due to potential riots. As if. This is Watford, the most tedious dry-arsed boring dive in the whole of the Southeast. I don't suppose it should come as any real surprise that after decades encouraging / breeding inner city scum, we now have plentiful inner city scum who are behaving like scum.

[chaseracer]

I don't suppose it should come as any real surprise that after decades encouraging / breeding inner city scum, we now have plentiful inner city scum who are behaving like scum.

Quod erat demonstrandum...

[Albert Ross]

I'd certainly call the O.B too.

 

Definitely. If time allows before the emergency or during. If no time permits, then afterwards.

 

what about the 81 yr old woman who woke last night to find 2 hooded thugs in her bedroom.... i doubt she was thinking "now where did i put my baseball bat"

 

the police are here to do a job... and red tape and bullshit prevents them from doing so...

 

doesn't it say on yankee police cars "to serve and protect"

 

I prefer the Transformers Movie version....... This is "Barricade". Would be good if we could do this.....

 

[Quintus]

I don't suppose it should come as any real surprise that after decades encouraging / breeding inner city scum, we now have plentiful inner city scum who are behaving like scum.

Quod erat demonstrandum...

 

As my late uncle used to say: 'Crap breeds crap!'

[Cavcraft]

Just seen the footage of the utter pond life who 'rescued' that poor young lad then went though his bag. I hope to God someone finds those fuckers and gives them the shoeing of a lifetime.

Absolute and utter cowardly bastard fucking scum.

[Lankytim]

[dollywobbler]

Just seen the footage of the utter pond life who 'rescued' that poor young lad then went though his bag. I hope to God someone finds those fuckers and gives them the shoeing of a lifetime.

Absolute and utter cowardly bastard fucking scum.

 

Yeah, that was absolutely sickening. What a bunch of fuggin' parasites. All disaffected scum - please board the next flight to Zimbabwe. No returns. See how you get on whinging about the unfairness of the world there.

[lancashireclamper]

Is there ANYTHING at all to be mildly optimistic about; will this fucking chaos ever end,will justice and retribution be swift and merciless as we are lead to believe or are the underclass taking over and theres fuck all we can do about it;

I was taught as a child that everyone had some good in them and no one was beyond salvation,

"You are better than no one and no one is better than you"

Just watched the 10' o'clock news and feel I have been decieved from an early age.

[maxpower]

Is there ANYTHING at all to be mildly optimistic about; will this fucking chaos ever end,will justice and retribution be swift and merciless as we are lead to believe or are the underclass taking over and theres fuck all we can do about it;

I was taught as a child that everyone had some good in them and no one was beyond salvation,

"You are better than no one and no one is better than you"

Just watched the 10' o'clock news and feel I have been decieved from an early age.

 

i believe the first crowd of looters and rioters that face the courts are gonna be hammered... to set an example

 

lets hope so

[ashmicro]

3 Batt. The Rifles have been put on 12hrs notice. They are the most recent to receive PO training, and Army ROE in support of the Civil Power is, erm, "elastic". Expect/hope for open skulls

[Station]

I'm reading on a very bad, unknowingly right wing local forum I look at about 'omg riot kicking off in birkinhead'. Most of the day. Don't flatter yourself.

 

Also referring to 'our lads in irak, dyed for these ungreatfil knobheads'. And 'bring back hangin'.

 

Shut up.

[Negative Creep]

Is there ANYTHING at all to be mildly optimistic about; will this fucking chaos ever end,will justice and retribution be swift and merciless as we are lead to believe or are the underclass taking over and theres fuck all we can do about it;

I was taught as a child that everyone had some good in them and no one was beyond salvation,

"You are better than no one and no one is better than you"

Just watched the 10' o'clock news and feel I have been decieved from an early age.

 

i believe the first crowd of looters and rioters that face the courts are gonna be hammered... to set an example

 

lets hope so

 

Yeah i bet those Community Rehabilitation Orders will really teach them a lesson

[maxpower]

Is there ANYTHING at all to be mildly optimistic about; will this fucking chaos ever end,will justice and retribution be swift and merciless as we are lead to believe or are the underclass taking over and theres fuck all we can do about it;

I was taught as a child that everyone had some good in them and no one was beyond salvation,

"You are better than no one and no one is better than you"

Just watched the 10' o'clock news and feel I have been decieved from an early age.

 

i believe the first crowd of looters and rioters that face the courts are gonna be hammered... to set an example

 

lets hope so

 

Yeah i bet those Community Rehabilitation Orders will really teach them a lesson

 

i think you will find its gonna be a lot more than that

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

Three police vans turned up at a BBQ my sister's church were holding tonight. Someone saw a gathering of youths eating hotdogs in a suburban carpark and called the cops Pretty impressive response considering this is only a few miles from Salford.

[theorganist]

i think you will find its gonna be a lot more than that

 

I think most of the people in court yesterday were sent home with community orders of some description! Not sure how many, if any got custodial sentances. But bearing in mind they are trying to reduce the prison population due to cuts then I think its unlikely many of the "rioters" will get prison sentances.

[cort16]

They should parade the twats without their hoodies down the streets they trashed and let everyone get a good eyeball on them. Saying that I don't think you can shame some of these.

[flat4alfa]

Two boys looting TVs in Croydon called their mum to pick them up.

A few minutes later witnesses saw an Asian woman arrive in a people carrier with a ­disabled badge in the window.

The boys loaded up the boot with their stolen booty and then the woman calmly drove away

 

Moments after a gang had smashed their way into JD Sports. Kids filled their arms with Nike trainers and adidas tracksuits. Boys, grown men, their girlfriends and sisters, even mums and dads – smashing and grabbing in a frenzy of crime

I want these families stripped of their assets and deported to Zimbabwe

[ProgRocker]

Two boys looting TVs in Croydon called their mum to pick them up.

A few minutes later witnesses saw an Asian woman arrive in a people carrier with a ­disabled badge in the window.

The boys loaded up the boot with their stolen booty and then the woman calmly drove away

 

Moments after a gang had smashed their way into JD Sports. Kids filled their arms with Nike trainers and adidas tracksuits. Boys, grown men, their girlfriends and sisters, even mums and dads – smashing and grabbing in a frenzy of crime

I want these families stripped of their assets and deported to Zimbabwe

 

+ 1 . A bit of newly instilled discipline 'Mugabe style' might wake them up a bit (I hope).

[flat4alfa]

This clip

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/ne ... 560646.stm

 

They are no good to themselves or society and never will be. They have been spoiled.

 

There could be a good export market in donor organs on the back of this. In death, at long last, they provided something worthwhile to society.

[hennabm]

Cameron is talking of allowing water cannons. I thinnk they are missing a trick here. Bring them in on every riot and use something like smartwater in them.

Then all the cops have to do is pay an early morning call on all the known hoods and hey presto there is their evidence; the smartwater markings on them.

 

The problem then is the court system - a short sentence and fine if they are unlucky otherwise a tag. Wow - that will frighten them into not doing it again.

How about the US way of three strikes and out - three repeats of the same crime and 25 years no remission.

How do we pay for the additional jails - easy; stop sending billions out of this country as foreign aid.

[M'coli]

That much smartwater would contaminate the area for ages after too - anyone who went through it to return home, for example, would also be marked. Then there's the cost of the stuff too.

[hennabm]

That much smartwater would contaminate the area for ages after too - anyone who went through it to return home, for example, would also be marked. Then there's the cost of the stuff too.

 

Ahhh, well maybe something like that then - must be better than standing by and watching them loot and wreck communities without any fear of them been caught.

[maxpower]

with half the shops shut due to the fuggin looting morons... i had to queue up in the only place open (bank) to get change for parking meter... finally 10 mins later i get served only to come out and find parking ticket on windscreen..

 

makes ya wanna fukkin run riot

[Guest Len H]

The problem then is the court system - a short sentence and fine if they are unlucky otherwise a tag. Wow - that will frighten them into not doing it again.

How about the US way of three strikes and out - three repeats of the same crime and 25 years no remission.

How do we pay for the additional jails - easy; stop sending billions out of this country as foreign aid.

 

Yes, the US is crime free.*

[Timewaster]

Give the police paint ball guns, but instead of paint, fill the balls with mace. Or the liquid out of stink bombs!

[TimothyClaypole]

The BBC really are wankers.

 

One day they moan about the lack of Police action the next they are showing someone getting a beating by the Police, make your minds up ffs.

 

Apart from Little Red Riding Hood anyone out after dark at the minute with a hood should be beaten on sight.

 

 

Save the trouble and overtime and just put up a couple of Predator Drones...

[Autoplas]

Fat Chav scum mother Lisa Moore on the BBC setting a great example to her kids - apparently its OK to loot because someone 'got shot for nothing' in London

 

HE WAS CARRYING A LOADED ILLEGAL FIREARM YOU CHAV SCUMBAG AND A POLICE OFFICER FIRED AS HE WAS IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE

 

I feel sorry for her kids...........