Waderider Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I don't know if this is relevant outside Scotland, but should definitely be worth watching and if you scan your schedules it might be on in Englandshire, and elsewhere also.STV (Scottish ITV), 8pm 30th October "The Car Scrap Trap". Hopefully this program will inform Joe Public with honesty about the wrong-headedness of the scrappage scheme. From the program description in my Mythtv schedules it certainly seems on the wavelength of this forum.I'll probably 'bump' this thread the day before.......
whitevanman Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I'll keep an eye out on the torrent sites for it as well
CortinaDave Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 What... STV actually showing something decent???? Lately they've been dropping all the good network progs and giving us crap local guff no one wants like "scotland from the moon"no doubt this prog will be on the stv player, so those dan sarf can still watch it.
Station Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Thought the entire media was totally biased towards greedy '10 year old cars are crap, ugh they're horrible, get them away, want a new bottom of the range BMW 1 series, next door has a new bottom of the range Mercedes 1.4 A-class, and the other side has a brand new bottom of the range Megane 1.2' agenda.
jjp666 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Just checked the Radio times and it is on in England as well.I'll get me coat!!!!!!!!
retro80sboy Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 anyone got a link to this programme online anywhere?anyone see it? what did they say?
FredTransit Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Looks like it's on in England tonight http://www.itv.com/presscentre/tonight/ ... fault.html
retro80sboy Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 article says 300,000 have been binned.wonder how many of those were actually worth scrapping and not rare/low milage/classic/good condition?
garycox Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Bugger, I'll be out, I hope there's some sort of 'watch again' facility...(If it's good)
barrett Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 clashes with the sweeney! this'll be one of life's tough decisions methinks
trigger Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Very good program i thought, It was more on the against scrappage side then the for it side so it gets my vote!.Nice to see the Riley RM that got saved feature on there as well.
Station Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 The arguement with the minister:"Isn't it not very environmentally conscious or mature to scrap perfectly usable cars?""Will you be saying that when the electric car comes in?"Greed wins in all cases I'm afraid.
pbottomley Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Normal chinless minister just spouting garbage, should of put him in the crusher and recycled him
55bloke Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I was almost cheering as I watched this!! It made such a refreshing change to finally hear some sense being spoken at last. I simply don't understand why environmentalists weren't screaming about the illogical bollocks the government were/are spouting about how green this scheme is!!
dollywobbler Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I got wind of this a couple of weeks ago after speaking to one of the production folk. Was glad they reported it nicely but I didn't watch it as scrappage angers my blood too much! (they may have done a good job of reporting the other side of the coin, but it's still about a stupid, ill-thought out scheme!)
CortinaDave Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Well I enjoyed that.. it seemed pretty anti scrappage overall, but the points made were very fair I thought. It was interesting to see that when they brought out four random cars traded in on scrappage that two of the were low mileage minters. Im glad that at least somebody has highlighted the wastefulness of it all!
Rusty Pelican Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Well happy with what was reported , wont stop people trading in their cars though , il get REALLY pissed up with joy when it ends
pogweasel Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I didn't watch it, but pleased some of the 'flip side' is being shown. Only a matter of time before it becomes mandatory, rather than an option. Sadly.
Station Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Normal chinless minister just spouting garbage, should of put him in the crusher and recycled himYeah, if I was the interviewer, I would've vomitted and said 'What the fuck are you talking about?' and then pulverised the workshy fop with the camera, before squeezing every last gram of his worthless life out of his scrawny neck.
CortinaDave Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 heres the link to it on the itv player for those who missed it: http://www.itv.com/ITVPlayer/Video/defa ... ter=106719
Spiny Norman Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I was half expecting the usual anti-car crap we're so used to getting from the media, so I was really pleased with this programme. Particularly liked the fact that the classic car argument got shown too, there have been far too many decent old motors lost for ever as a result of this stupid scheme.
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Really nice to see the anti-scrappage argument put forward. I was worried it would be a boring half hour about financing a new car, so was very pleased when they covered the environmental issues and even the classic car problem. The arguement with the minister:"Isn't it not very environmentally conscious or mature to scrap perfectly usable cars?""Will you be saying that when the electric car comes in?"Ha, I yelled at my TV when he spouted that irrelevant nonsense. But my favourite bit was the family scrapping their Nissan Micra because "it's starting to cost us money" *writes cheque for new car*
55bloke Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 But my favourite bit was the family scrapping their Nissan Micra because "it's starting to cost us money" *writes cheque for new car* Oh yeah, me too, I actually shouted at the TV at that point! He even went on to say that they'd had to spend money on an exhaust!!! Do new cars never need exhausts then? What an uttter moron!
retrogeezer Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 I laughed at that too! I mean, how much is an exhaust for a Micra? £70?No mention of the amount of pollution the ship carrying all those cars from Korea chucks out either and ships have NO emissions regs whatsoever.
Rocket88 Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 The fact that evryone seems to forget is that this scheme is costing the Government nowhere near £1000 a car. If a punter decides, just on the basis of this scheme, to buy a new conveyance, the Vat payed on the new purchase goes an awful long way to making up that £1000...........
bigstraight6 Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 The arguement with the minister:"Isn't it not very environmentally conscious or mature to scrap perfectly usable cars?""Will you be saying that when the electric car comes in?"Greed wins in all cases I'm afraid.That was priceless wasn't it, what a vacuous fool The other interesting point was the selection of new models where the list price seems to have risen by almost exactly £2000 in most cases since the scheme came in down to 'increased manufacturing costs' apparently
Justin Case Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Don't blame the environmentalists for this one. They too are up in arms about the wastage of perfectly good cars, and especially that there is no limit on the CO2 emissions of cars bought, unlike in Germany and Spain. Are we going against EU guidelines Is it too late to mass produce stickers saying: SCRAPPAGE - GREED NOT GREEN
retrogeezer Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 The fact that evryone seems to forget is that this scheme is costing the Government nowhere near £1000 a car. If a punter decides, just on the basis of this scheme, to buy a new conveyance, the Vat payed on the new purchase goes an awful long way to making up that £1000...........Yeh, but thats money that may have been spent elsewhere creating VAT that wasn't given back as a discount, so it does cost the government.
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