Jump to content
Tamworthbay

Allo Allo, Topless French fancy or Pug deux-zero-cinq or how to fix fuel injection without resorting to fire or insanity

Recommended Posts

So an extension, Capri and general life just isn’t busy enough so a new arrival is (relatively) imminent from the superb Strangeangel of this Parish. The fail sheet is fairly extensive but nothing too scary. Once it has been delivered (by a Northern bloke called Ron) I will do a full inspection and see what it needs to get it ready for some summer fun.

 

Parts wise it will need at least discs and pads, possibly calipers and possible some rear end attention as handbrake is marginal according to Sir MoT man. It needs a lower suspension arm as the ball joint is fubar. Does anyone know if there were any/ many differences across the 205 range? ECP are asking £95 but list one for £27 on eBay for a 1.4 205 but the fitment range doesn’t include the convertible. Then comes the joy of fault finding electrical issues and French fuel injection. I am truly excited! As I don’t have a pic of my own, have one from the for sale thread:

post-19712-0-23511800-1549915414_thumb.jpeg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So an extension, Capri and general life just isn’t busy enough so a new arrival is (relatively) imminent from the superb Strangeangel of this Parish. The fail sheet is fairly extensive but nothing too scary. Once it has been delivered (by a Northern bloke called Ron) I will do a full inspection and see what it needs to get it ready for some summer fun.

 

Parts wise it will need at least discs and pads, possibly calipers and possible some rear end attention as handbrake is marginal according to Sir MoT man. It needs a lower suspension arm as the ball joint is fubar. Does anyone know if there were any/ many differences across the 205 range? ECP are asking £95 but list one for £27 on eBay for a 1.4 205 but the fitmentbrange doesn’t include the convertible. Then comes the joy of fault finding electrical issues and French fuel injection. I am truly excited! As I don’t have a pic of my own, have one from the for sale thread:

attachicon.gif6ADC2779-AAEA-4A1E-A91F-85FAB85408AE.jpeg

 

AFAIK all suitcase & TU engined 205s use the same front suspension including the CJ. Only the GTi & CTi are different.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have spent a bit of time trying to research the dodgy idle issue with very little success. Air leaks, MAF and dodgy coil pack are the usual suspects and at £9 for a coil pack I tempted to just chuck one at it as worse case scenario is that I have a spare. Until I get the car (Friday) and have a look at the running problem (sometime the week after next) it’s rad to diagnose as distance but does anyone have any experience with the single point injection on these? It’s a 1.4. I am guessing they have some sort of idle control valve so that will be worth a check as well.

 

Other than that I have priced up the other parts and service bits needed and best case scenario is around £200, worse case about £300 but only if it has one type of calipers and they are beyond repair which I hope is unlikely. Plus any bits that come to light as I work around it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am really looking forward to it Ken, the welding looks a bit involved to do it well as opposed to a quick patch, but it can’t be as bad as the Capri. Brakes is brakes and suspension isn’t that bad if you know a few tricks (and own a BFO ratchet strap) so the idle issue is the one that might take the most head scratching.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is what I thought, thanks for the confirmation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

With old pugs and brakes I've always found the best course of action is to take the part off and dump it on the counter of your fave motor factors and say, I'll have one of those please. There's no rhyme or reason to what type gets fitted to what model, it just must have depended on what day of the week it was.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

With old pugs and brakes I've always found the best course of action is to take the part off and dump it on the counter of your fave motor factors and say, I'll have one of those please. There's no rhyme or reason to what type gets fitted to what model, it just must have depended on what day of the week it was.

I feared that would be the case, the problem is that someone on here has some for sale, hopefully when it arrives I can work it out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So I was just about to get stuck into the brakes for a few hours when I got a call to say my Mum is heading back to hospital in an ambulance :-( so no more will get done for a while. Just waiting to hear what’s happening before I shoot off to see her.

 

First impressions of the 205, fuck I love this thing already. Some cars just grab you the second you see them and this is one of those.everything feels nice about it. It needs a fair bit of work but what better way to get to know it? I genuinely can’t wait to get stuck in and get this back to roadworthy again. I have ordered some bits already but just trying to work out which brakes it has before I get those bits on the way from one of our own on here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They look like Bendix calipers, also fitted to ZXs, 306s, and 309s, normally the lower powered models. Normally have a 5 sided bolthead, and the wear indicator grooves in the centres of the pad sit assymetrically

 

I've only seen Lucas calipers on 1.9s, though I don't think they were exclusive to the 'big' GTi.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They look like Bendix calipers, also fitted to ZXs, 306s, and 309s, normally the lower powered models. Normally have a 5 sided bolthead, and the wear indicator grooves in the centres of the pad sit assymetrically

 

I've only seen Lucas calipers on 1.9s, though I don't think they were exclusive to the 'big' GTi.

Thanks that confirms what I was thinking. Do you need a special spanner for the five sided bolt head? It's not something I have come across before.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hope mum is okay.

 

Fab Pug purchasing.

That’s what you said when I told you by PM :-) I seem to recall it went something like this- hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

The five sided socket is proving tricky to track down, there appear to be different sizes (12.5mm, 14mm and 19mm) and I don’t have the faintest clue which I need and at nearly £20 a pop I don’t want to get it wrong. I will have a chat with my local independent motor factor and see if they have any.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pagid-3-Piece-1-2-Inch-Pentagon-Drive-Socket-Bit-Set-10mm-14mm-19mm/223211540245?hash=item33f871cf15:g:Jg8AAOSwEVtb2X7~:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

 

Try searching for "pentagon socket". Much more satisfying price.

 

Hope your Mum is ok.

That’s what you said when I told you by PM :-) I seem to recall it went something like this- hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

The five sided socket is proving tricky to track down, there appear to be different sizes (12.5mm, 14mm and 19mm) and I don’t have the faintest clue which I need and at nearly £20 a pop I don’t want to get it wrong. I will have a chat with my local independent motor factor and see if they have any.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes the 5-sided sockets and spanners are available. A lot of recon ones now come with regular hex head bolts. Had a couple in the past with out of round cylinders, as the same caliper is fitted to ZX 309 306 and I think the 106, AX & Saxo. And some Renaults.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • By TripleRich
      Hi all, new to the forum.  Thought you might be interested in what I've got myself into
      I'd been after my first classic car for a while.  If it's big and made in the 70s I'm interested.  Looked at few things like P6s, Zodiacs, Victors, SD1s and various other things.  Problem was I didn't want to spend a boatload of money on something that looked alright but underneath was actually a total heap.  The solution was to buy a complete heap in the first place and spend the money fixing it.
      So in January I went ahead and bought this from a colleague at work who was moving away and needed to get shot of it.

      It's a part finished restoration (I prefer not started) and it needs a whole load of help if it's going to stand any chance of using a road again.
      Pros
      It's right up my street.  Granada Coupes are quite odd and certainly stand out from the norm.
      It still has the original engine, box, interior and most trim.
      It came with loads of panels I need to repair it (mostly original Ford stock).
      It came with so many spares I could probably build a few Granadas and still have stuff left over.
      It was cheap.
      Cons
      Most of the front end has been cut off.
      Most of the body structure is quite rotten.
      It's going to take me ages.
      I work at a restoration company and my boss kindly allows me to keep the car there.  So I've got access to all the gear I need to restore it.  I've been busy on the car for a while now so will post more pics over the coming days.
      Cheers 
    • By egg
      Caveat - I have not sealed the deal on this. This could easily go pear-shaped and is utter insanity anyway. However there is a MK12 Invacar for £300 here:

      http://www.wafrost.co.uk/contact-us/



      Could anyone offer transport to me please? This would be to my rented lock-up in Whitstable CT5.

      155 miles.

      Thanks.

      Obviously I would be paying you for this. Preference is to keep in house though given the absurdity!
    • By Gamer9430
      UPDATE 1:
       
      As of post #40, the Monte Carlo SS is up and running! For now the project is on hold until May when I get back from college for the summer. Once I get back, I will be continuing work on getting the car road-worthy once more,. This includes getting new tires, cleaning it, getting historic plates, registering it as such, and switching the insurance from "in-Storage". Exciting times lie ahead in the coming months for this classic 80s car
      UPDATE 2:
       
      As of 27 May, 2020, the Monte Carlo SS has left the driveway for the first time in 14+ years. New tires have been fitted and now all that is left is renewing the registration, updating the insurance, and taking care of a few cosmetic issues, then it'll be all set for normal driving once more.
      Original Post:
       
      Hello fellow shitters,
       
      The time has finally come for me to take a look at my dad's 1987 Monte Carlo SS. He bought it brand new back in 1987 and has kept it with him since then. The car has been sitting idle in our garage since I'd estimate 2004/2005/2006? I know the last time It received daily usage was 2003 and then was driven every so often until around 2006. Since then, it's been left to decay in the garage. I began to give it a bit of attention back in December of last year, and I've simply been to busy to look at it otherwise. All 4 tires had long since gone flat, so I filled them back up. The two driver's side tires are still inflated now over a year later, but the passenger side deflated within 48 hours of me filling them. If I recall correctly, at least one of them had a hole back when it was left dormant, which is likely the reason as to why it was left dormant. So its possible its just the tires, or there's now axel rot from it sitting for so long which is why they deflated so quickly.
       
      Besides the tires, the car is covered in about an inch of dust, so that'll have to be cleaned. The upholstery on the roof of the car has come detached and is currently being held up with thumbtacks, although that happened way back in like 2000, so that's been like that for awhile. The battery is stone dead, so that will need replacement. The rubber seals around the doors might have to be replaced since I'm not sure how they would hold up in the rain. Finally, whatever fluids are left are probably long stale or evaporated, so they'll need to be replaced as well.
       
      As for some cosmetic things, the left brake light cover is cracked and has been since again, around 2000. The center console cover is falling apart and probably could use replacement. The car could also use a few touch-ups on the paint as well. Given these are just cosmetic issues, they're not really major issues that I need to address to get it drivable once again.
       
      I'm planning to work on this on Tuesday during my spring break from college. My grandfather, who has been a mechanic for the past 30+ years, will be helping me to get it running once more, so it should be a pretty easy job. I plan to take pictures and to film its first start in over 10 years once the time comes. Really excited to get this car going again since its a fantastic 80s car, with it's maroon interior and exterior. I think my dad will be pretty excited too since he loves that car.
×
×
  • Create New...