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'SOGA APPLIES!!! SOGA APPLIES!!!' says the internet law dept. But what does it actually even mean? What legal cover does it give someone buying this car? What circumstances does it apply in? Its total bollocks man.

 

OMG SOGA LAGOS GOSS BROSS MAT & LUKE SOGA SOGGY SAGO GOATSE

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FFS. The Doctor obviously spends a fair bit of time finding these old cars, he prepares them properly, photographs them well and states clearly and without bullshit that they're old cars so bid at your own risk. WTF is the problem?

 

You'd think that the poor sod would be getting a bit of credit for finding these old things and making them properly nice, but no, he gets called all kinds of shyster because he's not offering a warranty on a 27 year old Golf and Luxo wibbling on about the fucking Sale of Goods act?

 

No wonder people don't bother dealing in low-end old cars. If this is the shit the Doc gets for flogging immaculate stuff imagine what it's like for people flogging old chod. I certainly wouldn't bother. If this is how old car folk behave then it's easy to see how cars get sent over the bridge instead of dealing with the shit that comes with flogging cheap old cars to Watchdog obsessed anoraks.

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I think any 20+ year old car with a design life of twelve years or less would be minimally covered under SoG Act. It has already lasted beyond the reasonable time expected of it and therefore anyone buying such a vehicle would reasonably expect it to break down at some point and require work beyond what a less old vehicle would need.

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I'm not sure about the profit bit in some cases, mind.

No, neither am I. :(

 

I don't think any of us serial shiters are in it for the money though. And with current prices my car habit probably costs me less than a 20-B&H-a-day habit anyway.

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To actually pin things down here, is anyone aware of any case law where an old, and slightly valuable (i.e. far more than scrap, but not 'blue chip classic' value), car was found not be 'fit for purpose'?

 

English law seems to be based largely on precedent, after all ....

 

I suspect that such case law doesn't exist, as it would be nigh on impossible (as many have alluded to on here) to argue that a car of this age should reasonably be expected to be up to such standards. I could be wrong, mind.

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FFS. The Doctor obviously spends a fair bit of time finding these old cars, he prepares them properly, photographs them well and states clearly and without bullshit that they're old cars so bid at your own risk. WTF is the problem?

 

You'd think that the poor sod would be getting a bit of credit for finding these old things and making them properly nice, but no, he gets called all kinds of shyster because he's not offering a warranty on a 27 year old Golf and Luxo wibbling on about the fucking Sale of Goods act?

 

No wonder people don't bother dealing in low-end old cars. If this is the shit the Doc gets for flogging immaculate stuff imagine what it's like for people flogging old chod. I certainly wouldn't bother. If this is how old car folk behave then it's easy to see how cars get sent over the bridge instead of dealing with the shit that comes with flogging cheap old cars to Watchdog obsessed anoraks.

This, times eleventy.

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I usually find that "old car folk" are some of nastiest, snide, back biting, heather scum put on God's green earth. I've had the misfortune to have been co-opted [against my better judgement] to join a couple of "owner's clubs". First meeting I went to, the first time I opened my gob with a quite reasonable idea, .you would have thought that I'd suggested that they have sexual congress with a three legged goat. I never went back.

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Hey, chill out everyone. 8)

 

As Pete said, SOGA is precisely why the low-end traders are being wiped out. Exactly because the courts are too draconian in its application- did you see me, or anyone else, saying it's a good thing overall? A guy who sells stuff from e-bay instead of a container behind a canopy is already ahead of those traders by virtue of not having overheads and keeping a much smaller stock. There's nowt wrong with that business model, in fact it's pretty shrewd- sacrificing volume for the sake of a good per unit profit. However, trying to dress up trade sales as private ones is pretty much illegal, and there's no harm in pointing that out, particularly when the part of the market we're talking about isn't the one that's been hit hardest by the application of a very blunt legal instrument.

 

I also agree it's a good thing that there's more interest in shite and that some random old cars can seemingly fetch quite a bit of money with a good polish, and I did say that he clearly has a knack for buying the right stuff at the right price. However, that doesn't make the patronising sales patter any less silly or the legal side of things any more black-and-white.

 

Why do you have to get quasi-emotional about that?

 

Let's get back to the regular programming. Is there anyone anywhere near East London with time to kill this weekend? This would be the perfect 'sensible' car for me if I still can't manage to sort parking out. LPG, high-spec, reasonable fuel consumption, and in a few months it's eligible for classic insurance.

 

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A doctor (no, not that one) who used to work in the hospital at langside, Glasgow, had two of these Lister XJS's over the years - both bought pretty much new - I always loved to see them.

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MOUSERATTI

 

Yes, the owner really is that sad.

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Shitting Norah, that Cavalier convertible is bloody great VFM, Marty. If my Merc sells I'll be on to the seller of that no danger.

 

*Apologies for lack of eBay content in this message, can't work out how to do it from my phone but will make ends later.

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Caveat Emptor................or is that a bit too much like common sense?

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From now on, can we keep all the "doctor deals" in the eBay Bargains thread where they belong?

 

Arguing about whether he's a robbing wanker or not is shitting up this excellent thread. Same as last time really... :roll:

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The seller of the white Corona has increased the price by £700 since this morning.

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From now on, can we keep all the "doctor deals" in the eBay Bargains thread where they belong?

 

Arguing about whether he's a robbing wanker or not is shitting up this excellent thread. Same as last time really... :roll:

 

Ermmmmm, NO,

Everyone keep posting what they want where they want,

:idea: if self appointed mods don't like it or don't want to read it, they don't have to.

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