Land Rover 101

[Christine]

My mates just bought a new toy .Cool as fuck eh?    

Any idea as to what regiment from the ghost image on the door?  It's fitted with a 200 tdi  sadly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[anonymous user]

Excellent! A very good friend had one for years, V8 with lpg and overdrive which made it almost economical. Always enjoyed having a go with it although it wasn't the easiest of things to get behind the wheel of, they are surprisingly small and neat when you get up close

[Momentary Lapse Of Reason]

If you look on one of the plates on the transmission tunnel you will find the army registration number for the 101.

It will be in the form 12AB34 put that into http://www.rlcarchive.org/VehicleSrch and you will be able to find out if they have the records for it at the RLC Museum and for a fee your mate can find out who it served with.

[Supernaut]

If you look on one of the plates on the transmission tunnel you will find the army registration number for the 101.

It will be in the form 12AB34 put that into http://www.rlcarchive.org/VehicleSrch and you will be able to find out if they have the records for it at the RLC Museum and for a fee your mate can find out who it served with.

Would this apply for a 1958 Series 1 88" that served with the RAF?

[MorrisItalSLX]

That looks like a proper bit of kit, ex-military has always intrigued me.

 

Needs some pressed ally plates though...

[Momentary Lapse Of Reason]

Would this apply for a 1958 Series 1 88" that served with the RAF?

I don't know if the RLC museum would have RAF vehicle records, however if you have the RAF vehicle number (registration) try sticking it in the link and see what happens - cost nowt to try!

 

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A swift Gurgle later (other search engines are available)

Try the RAF museum as well https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/default/archive-collection/vehicle-records.aspx

(Read their note about some of the RAF vehicles being managed by the Army).

[dollywobbler]

Anyone else feeling absolutely terrified by the sight of that thing almost on a pair of flimsy ramps?

[Christine]

It's  actually hanging on a bit of string under a Chinnook....there's no weight on the ramps..

[Talbot]

it's more the fact that over 50% of the tyre is hanging off the side of the ramps! Who put that on there?!

 

101FC's are very cool. The 200tdi is basically essential if you ever want to be able to drive it. The original low-compression V8 is disasterous on fuel... like 12mpg on a good day. Give an original 101 a blat around a country lane and you'll be looking at single figure mpg.

 

Also the only vehicle I've ever driven where the driver can top up the brake and clutch fluid while on the move.

[John F]

Lovely 101, and the 200 TDi engine is an ace unit.

 

I hope your mate locks it up securely.

[Christine]

Was talking td5 conversion already as it's sloooow

[drum]

Should be fast enough with the tdi, but it's his machine etc.

 

I have a set of rims for one of these. Six studs, so no good for 'normal' LRs.

[Christine]

Can it be fitted with power steering , he said ??  Electric ?

[drum]

Never heard of it being done to a 101 before.

I've never driven one either, but a well set up series doesn't need power steering.

 

These are usually driven by Walts with big arms...

[anonymous user]

Never heard of it being done to a 101 before.

I've never driven one either, but a well set up series doesn't need power steering.

 

These are usually driven by Walts with big arms...

I managed fine, and I'm weak and feeble

[drum]

I managed fine, and I'm weak and feeble

Exactly.

[Christine]

He'd probably have those wheels off you...

 

Shame the registration letters aren't the other way round ..     

[Talbot]

a few pointers:

 

The 200tdi engine is not slow.. it's a heavyish vehicle with permanent 4x4. Expecting it to be even remotely close to even a slow car's performance is not understanding the vehicle. It actually weighs less than a Discovery 1 200tdi, The performance (unless the tdi is bollocksed) will be about as much as you can expect without beefing up things like axles, diffs, brakes etc.etc.etc.

 

Td5 would be an interesting conversion, and in theory will just about fit, but you're then looking at possibly needing upgrading other things. The torque output of a Td5 is quite a bit more than the original V8 or the 200tdi, and if you make use of the additional performance, other things will be stressed.

 

These are not fast vehicles. They gain momentum at their own pace, and you should feel like 60mph is an achievement rather than the norm.

 

Power steering is possible. There are hydraulic add-on kits that fit where the steering damper goes, electric kits that do similarly, or if you're feeling a little more adventurous, PAS steering boxes from RRC/D1/D2 can be made to fit with the apropriate fabrication etc. That said, the steering is not overly heavy as it is. Check all the steering angles are correct and the steering box is not tight. It should be completely driveable as is. Again, don't expect it to be anything like anything else you've ever driven.

 

If you do look to do ANY upgrading of the vehicle, those 9.00x16 bar-grips need to go. Off road, particularly on sand they are ok, but on the road they are just about barely (not really) capable. In the wet they are terrifying. They're known as straight-ons for a good reason.

[drum]

Bar slips

[DodgeRover]

What it really needs is a lightweight petrol V8 fitting

[timolloyd]

Hyabusa m8

[Squirrel2]

My mates just bought a new toy .Cool as fuck eh?

Any idea as to what regiment from the ghost image on the door? It's fitted with a 200 tdi sadly.

 

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Nice looking 101. Shame about the 200tdi but at least it has everyday economy.

 

If the diesel lump has been mated to the original LT95 then there are loads of transfer gear ratio options available that could raise the gearing. In standard form the 101 has possibly the lowest ratio of any LR made. A popular mod amongst 101ers is to fit a Range Rover overdrive.

 

If the owner is serious about keeping and using this great truck then it is well worth joining the 101club which gives access to a very good spares shop...

 

http://www.101club.org

 

Do not look on the bay of thieves for spares - prices are always stupid.

 

BTW I have just celebrated twenty years of ownership of mine.

 

Squirrel2

[Supernaut]

BTW I have just celebrated twenty years of ownership of mine.

Where the hell are the bloody photos then?! C'mon man! You can't say something like that and not follow it up.

 

I'd love to have a shot of a Land Rover FC at some point.

[Squire_Dawson]

What did the military use them for - personnel carriers as the seating suggests?

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I'm liking that a LOT. Imagine the damage it would do to some tosser cutting you up!

[Christine]

He bought several in a joblot...  All tdi'd  (sadly)  .   One other could be for sale shortly   Can't drive 3 at once , see..... That's the only one i've seen so far in the flesh .   

[Squirrel2]

It was a gun tractor, it towed the 105mm “light” gun.

It can’t recall the figures but the gun weighed a lot, the ammo weighed a lot and the crew and their personal kit meant gross train weight was very high.

3.5 Rover v8 and low gearing meant it worked very well though.

It outlived it’s successor, the RB44.

There were also a few radio vans (hardtop, same shape as above) and ambulance (taller, wider hardtop).

In 1975, the year of the 101FC’s introduction, a ‘Joint Services Expedition’ travelled across Africa from west to east consisting of eight men in four 101s. in what was the first unsupported expedition of its type. The 101s power to weight ratio meant that enough fuel and water could be carried by the vehicles. At least one of the vehicles’ trailers featured a driven axle. The Rover V8 engine made this possible but fuel consumption was in single digits!

 

Report here..

 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1796595

 

There was a documentary film made about the trip entitled ‘The widest beach in the world’.

[Squirrel2]

Where the hell are the bloody photos then?! C'mon man! You can't say something like that and not follow it up.I'd love to have a shot of a Land Rover FC at some point.

OK, so here’s mine. Disposed of by HMForces in 1997 and bought by me from an ex-military LR dealer near Preston the following year. It is a RHD ‘General Service’ 1 tonne with 12V electrical system and came with the last ten years’ worth of its service log books. It had about twenty years of hard service; and it showed; hardly a straight panel and signs of collision damage and many, many, coats of paint in black and green camouflage. The V8 ran (one of many engines it appears to have had) but had a ‘death-rattle’ at speed. I had a serious FTP with it during the first weekend of ownership and my neighbours at the time were questioning my sanity!

 

A change of job not long after gave me somewhere to work on it and I stripped the external panels and re-sprayed in the original LR Green and replaced the V8 with one from a 130.

 

I was invited to a get-together at the LR factory at Solihull and a ‘heritage run’ to Gaydon in 2001.

 

A completely straight rear body came my way not long after and as it is only held on with eight bolts this was soon off and as is the way I decided to replace the rear crossmember and fuel tank which were both pretty crusty and leaking.

 

The battery box was rotten and needed re-making; lots of acid splash from parachute drops had eaten away at aluminium panels and frames. Another more thorough strip down of the paint and a DIY respray in 2k and re-galvanising the frames and cappings made it look much better and it now looks like this.

 

There is more work to do though; the RH ‘B’ post is a bit minty at the bottom and this steel panel carries the roll-over hoop.

 

The V8 is not a genuine 1 Tonne lump but will do for now, the mil-spec engine lurks at the back of my garage till I can get around to rebuilding it.

 

The rod between the carbs links the gearbox remote to the top of the LT95.

 

I’ve got the transmission brake in bits at the moment but got to get it back on the road soon; number two junior Squirrel has expressed a desire to use it as his transport to Church at his forthcoming wedding...

 

Apologies for all the pics bunched at the end of the post.

 

Squirrel2

 

 

[somewhatfoolish]

It was a gun tractor, it towed the 105mm “light” gun.

 

It can’t recall the figures but the gun weighed a lot, the ammo weighed a lot and the crew and their personal kit meant gross train weight was very high.

3.5 Rover v8 and low gearing meant it worked very well though.

It outlived it’s successor, the RB44.

 

There were also a few radio vans (hardtop, same shape as above) and ambulance (taller, wider hardtop).

They were also used to drag Rapier missile units about.

[Squirrel2]

I’ve just re-commissioned my 101 after about a year of slumber.

 

The handbrake required rebuilding after I had it all apart to replace the transfer ‘box rear output seal. That done a new battery and fresh petrol were applied and it was fired up. V8 running nicely but the clutch pedal went solid...

 

The 101 has two fluid reservoirs both mounted on the dashboard. Each feeds one side of the dual circuit brakes and the right hand one has a little internal ‘dam’ and two fluid outlets, one for brake master cylinder and the other to the clutch master cylinder. The fluid was drained out of this side and the master cylinder disconnected and removed - to find that this was not the problem; the slave cylinder was seized. Not only that but when I started to unbolt it it was found that it was still holding the clutch out! The weakness of the 101 bellhousing showed here as one bolt stripped and the other was not too clever. An M8 and 5/16” unc mixed here..

 

A couple of cylinder service kits and some new 1/4” piping flared and fitted had it back together and filled with fluid.

 

The bolt holes in the bellhousing were helicoiled out at M8 to secure the slave cylinder well enough.

 

Mrs Squirrel was enlisted to help bleed the clutch and she was given a bottle of DOT4 and instructed to keep the reservoir topped up. All was going well with all the bubbles gone but then more came and the pedal was offering little resistance. Over half a litre of fluid now in my waste bottle and I’m hearing ‘slurping’ sounds as (blonde) Mrs S pumped away... she was letting the res empty before topping it up each time.... sorted that and eventually got our clutch action back.

 

MoT booked and sorted out the non-operative washers, hazard flashers and horn (all electrical items with a ‘Lucas’ association) it passed. I’ve just re-registered it and got it taxed as a ‘historic vehicle’ so well-chuffed Squirrel now.

 

Clutch hydraulics in bits.

Helicoils to the rescue.

Dashboard plumbing - clutch master cylinder is above your left knee as you drive.

MoT and £0.00 tax...

 

Squirrel2