Shite trailer- weird PCD...

[Lankytim]

Hi all

 

I recently picked up a freebee shite home made trailer. It's got 4x108  mk3 escort wheels on but two studs have snapped and the other look under a lot of stress. Measuring the studs shows them to be 110mm apart. What car takes this size of wheel? I can't think of any! 

 

Any ideas? The trailer looks pretty ancient so the wheels could be from something from the 50's or 60's

 

 

[Hertz]

4 x 110 rings a bell with early Jap stuff?

[dozeydustman]

Digging around on t'interweb, 4-stud Mazdas from the 80's, possibly early 90's. Also some Hondas.

Hope this helps

[bigfella2]

It's also daihatsu hi-jet too. Also cuore and move models upto 98-99ish.

[Lankytim]

cheers guys!

 

Ill have a dig about

[Six-cylinder]

Homemade trailers are sometimes made using caravan hubs and they have larger PCDs.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Is that about 4 1/2 inches ? Old caravans and car trailers were often 4x4 1/2".

[bigfella2]

Some quad wheels are also 110 but you will struggle for road legal tyres.

[Lankytim]

May be easier to redrill the hubs for a ford stud pattern. Looking at the axle it may have a Honda Z600 axle on it.

[dollywobbler]

Crikey! That's unusual. Leaf-sprung solid axle though, and the cars rusted like a rusty thing in the sea.

[ruffgeezer]

We have 4 largish trailer wheels at work with an odd pcd, will check and report back.

[cobblers]

Have the hubs got a decent central spigot? You could use wobble nuts.

 

That said if it's just a 40mph to the local tip every few months trailer then I'd just grind the taper off the wheel nuts so they're flat faced and centralise the wheels as best you can by eye then torque the fuck out of them.

It's a bodge but there's a lot worse running about the place.

[Lankytim]

No, there's no spigot in the middle. I guess instead of grinding off the taper I could just install the wheel nuts back to front with the flat side against the wheel. 

[cobblers]

every Erde trailer sold by Halfords in Rotherham (before I worked there ten years back) went out with the wheel nuts the wrong way round.

They sold loads and none of the wheels fell off. It's really not right but the studs won't snap or bend and short term, all you'll have is some wheel wobble. I wouldn't fancy it on a decent size trailer but if it's only got bin bags of old underpants in then it'll be right

[PiperCub]

Is that about 4 1/2 inches ? Old caravans and car trailers were often 4x4 1/2".

 

That rang a bell with me too. 110mm is about 4.4" if my mental arithmetic is right. That'd be near enough for me. 

[Eddie Honda]

4" is 101.6 + ½" is 12.7, that makes 114.3?

[sheffcortinacentre]

4x114

 

Allegro/princess/1100-2200/maestro van/rover 600-800

Honda/Hyundai

Volvo v/s 40

[Lankytim]

Thought I’d finally post some pics... can anyone spot the mistake with the springs?

 

Also tried out these ford slots for size. Look great eh?

[Talbot]

can anyone spot the mistake with the springs?

The fixed end should be at the front?

 

Also, some dampers might be a good plan..

[Alan_Green]

4 x 110 is Mazda Montrose (like mine); early Mazda RX7; Perodua Nippa (and derivatives); Hijet (and derivatives). Some quad buggies. That's about it.  The Mazda Montrose/RX7 wheels come up for sale on Ebay quite often and the guy who had the black Nippa on here had a blue-painted set for sale recently. About £50 on Ebay usually.

 

[KruJoe]

Older caravans and trailers (except those knocked up from car parts) are generally 5.5 inch PCD with a BFO centre bore.

I got my moneys worth out of this one - it let go on the A1M as I carted the BX to Shitefest last year.

 

 

Newer and lighter trailers tend to be 4x100 these days.

 

Wheel pervs will notice the 4x108 BX wheels (and original tyres?) and a mk3 Escort rim with Tim's new* trolley.

 

 

Yes, the slot-mags do look the nuts on it!

[Lankytim]

Here’s the reason for the single Citroen wheel.. like many of these trailers it had very old tyres!