Blatant ringers thread?

[stephen01]

It's amazing how many people leave full v5 details on view, after doing a change of keeper online when i sold the BM, I'd blank out the V5 ref number sharpish. its was pish easy.. 

[D Spares & Tyres]

but then moan like hell that everything is turning to shit and the NHS aint what it used to be etc etc etc

 

?

[D Spares & Tyres]

Hi, So you don't want it to be connected to theft but don't mind it being connected to fraud, which is theft by another name. Interesting that you make the distinction.  

 

 (tongue in cheek mode .off.)

 

 Colin

We can discuss legality or morality but they are not necessarily intertwined ☺

[robinmasters]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173061831744

 

Quote "Selling as automotive memorabilia"

 

 

 

 

 

Do you think the self tappers come with it?

I like how the trail of screws leads to the yellow box:

 

Buyer beware!...Do you know how to avoid being tricked into buying a stolen vehicle?

[richardthestag]

this weapons grade donkey wins at everything

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/classic-range-rover-2-door-1972-suffix-a-log-book-/142671575113

 

Name Tony Kenneth Lawler

address 6 Brunswick Gardens etc

VIN 35504045A

Reg - special award here for obscufication look at bottom of doc OGW 362K

 

Doc number is also visible,

 

How can we check if this is already marked as scrapped?

 

 

 

 

Obviously this is for sale as a collectors item.

 

 

of course 

 

[richardthestag]

blimey there is another

 

no bites at an £800 start bid for a collectors item

 

greedy cunt

 

old style v5 too

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/range-rover-suffix-A-log-book/273036746715?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49925%26meid%3D8ecb8e60c40e4d8e8c32ad55cb34809c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D142671575113%26itm%3D273036746715&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

 

FWN 376K

 

 

 

Vin 35504116A

 

Tell you what though, what are the chances that this and the one above both registered on the very same day

[RoadworkUK]

This one's pretty spectacular: VKW382K

 

 

"This rover has been used as spares for another project.  No bits left, just the v5 and old tax discs."

 

It no longer exists, then. QED. Declare it scrapped and throw them all away you dishonest git.

[somewhatfoolish]

this weapons grade donkey wins at everything

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/classic-range-rover-2-door-1972-suffix-a-log-book-/142671575113

 

Name Tony Kenneth Lawler

address 6 Brunswick Gardens etc

VIN 35504045A

Reg - special award here for obscufication look at bottom of doc OGW 362K

 

Doc number is also visible,

 

How can we check if this is already arrange for this to be marked as scrapped as a surprise for the owner?

 

OGW362K.jpg

 

OGW362K2.jpg

 

 

 

of course 

 

images.jpg

FTFY

[Parky]

Oh god, how pissed off would the buyers be when awaiting their tax exemption only to discover their newly rung Landy is, in fact, scrapped?

 

They'll have to dig out the original VIN and start the process all over again. Shame...

[twosmoke300]

Fuck I’m so tempted to do that now

[Parky]

"Ello DVLA.....yeah I got some info for ya. Some wrongun is tryin to turn you over proper like"

[RoadworkUK]

bms_motorsalvage

 

is currently advertising 17 V5s under the 'memorabilia' tag. They range from a Porsche 911 logbook for £5,000 to an Astra Van for £120.

 

The Astra Van advert helpfully mentions "REGISTERED 04/09/2008 MO.T 10/02/2017 2 KEEPERS HPI CLEAR”

 

A nice, clean history, made to measure. Thanks, eBay.

[richardthestag]

bms_motorsalvage

 

is currently advertising 17 V5s under the 'memorabilia' tag. They range from a Porsche 911 logbook for £5,000 to an Astra Van for £120.

 

The Astra Van advert helpfully mentions "REGISTERED 04/09/2008 MO.T 10/02/2017 2 KEEPERS HPI CLEAR”

 

A nice, clean history, made to measure. Thanks, eBay.

 

fuck me that is just hiding in plain sight.

 

could do with a nice 5am wake up call from rozzers, vosa and hmrc

[Parky]

It's just such an obvious offence, and I know Plod is stretched for resources but surely this has to be a nice easy nick for some young PC anxious to make a name for themselves?

 

Anyone know any young PC's who fancy a promotion?

[Dave_Q]

I dunno, but I have made various attempts to report this sort of thing to ebay, obviously they don't give 1/10 of a fuck as they make $$$ out of it. 

 

I did email the police a screenshot of one of those bellends off facebook who sell trade insurance/put cars on the MID and leave the list of reg numbers on, they did eventually get back to me and say thanks and give me an email address to send any other "intel" to.

 

I guess you need to report it in the area the seller lives in, if anyone can be arsed all police forces have websites with details of the area sergeant or whatever, I reckon that's the best way to up the chance of arrest for the seller from 0.00% to 0.0000001%.

[Dave_Q]

For example, VKW382K is listed as being in Uckfield.

 

https://www.police.uk/sussex/EW1NH54/

 

All the plod on there have [email protected] as their email address.

[richardthestag]

zero tolerance if you find yourself doing 60mph on an unrestricted a road and you forgot you have a car trailer hanging off the back of the car.*

 

proper crim mate

 

*not dissing the rozzers just trying to be ironic

[Parky]

DVLA have their own fraud team

 

https://insidedvla.blog.gov.uk/2015/05/29/behind-the-scenes-with-dvlas-counter-fraud-intelligence-team/

 

Basically with one man and three women, like some Swansea based version of Charlie's Angels, our intrepid band of virtuous fraud investigators will tirelessly pursue the less desirable elements of the motor trade.

 

Of course being the DVLA there doesn't appear to be any way of contacting them...which makes them the shittest superheroes ever

[DodgeRover]

Lots of info on who to email etc on the blue RetroRides forum - it's in the stolen section

[Tadhg Tiogar]

...All the plod on there have [email protected] as their email address.

It's 101, as in Room 101 - stick the reports in there and forget about them.

[colnerov]

 Hi, The problem is although it's an offence to sell a V5 or registration mark without the vehicle, they list them on ebay as memorabilia which sidesteps that one.  The next offence is applying the registration mark to a vehicle that it doesn't belong to, but of course the vendor is not doing that he is leaving that some other sucker who has paid out money for it and then can't register it and gets a visit because there's hopefully a  marker against the reg number.

 

 Colin

[Parky]

It would be community spirited to grass these guys up to the DVLA because somewhere down the line it is possible a wealthy collector is going to get ripped off, a young family will innocently buy a stolen or wrecked motor, or one of us will find our new cheap heap has more markers on it than a small office whiteboard.

 

And some scroat is making money out of ripping people off. Not to mention the number of Land Rovers which are enjoying tax free status despite not deserving it. Now that's just not fair is it?

 

Remember someone avoiding a tax is placing more burden on you to cover it.

[sierraman]

I can't believe how brazenly people go about doing this. What's eBay's opinion on this?

[Tadhg Tiogar]

.....What's eBay's opinion on this?

 

Presumably "How can we make more money out of this category"?

[mercrocker]

The link between a V5 on Ebay and a stolen classic story in a classic car magazine might make a more interesting story for some of the weeklies than yet another bloke in shorts polishing his Metro.   With some decent press exposure it might well be that Ebay suddenly re-assess the value of their commission from such items.   

[sierraman]

It really ought to get some exposure in the classic car press really, if it saves someone getting ripped off.

[Parky]

Memorabilia I sort of get. If someone particularly loves a particular classic then maybe, just maybe I could see the value in a V5 document.

 

But a 2007 Astra Diesel or '09 Focus? Really?

 

And what reason would someone have for buying a vin plate and a logbook that didn't involve transferring them to another car?

[richardthestag]

type up vin numbers and reg details and they appear in google searches?

 

ebay couldnt give a fuck if an item is being sold.

 

police, understaffed and too busy

 

dvla dont care

 

insurance companies.... hmmmm they might have a vested interest

[DSdriver]

I wonder what's going to happen to this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-42862254

[Tadhg Tiogar]

I wonder what's going to happen to this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-42862254

 

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