Wanted 15/02/18 Renault 30 Project - gone to a safe new home

[pshome]

Do we know for sure the rear discs are actually bad? All 4 discs front and rear need to be replaced? I never had a car where all were bad at the same time.

Picture?

[beko1987]

Couldn't they be skimmed up? Like edd did to that porch on wheeler dealers but for about £39,950 less cost

[Parky]

Half decent plasterer and a tube of chemical metal?

[Junkman]

Do we know for sure the rear discs are actually bad? All 4 discs front and rear need to be replaced? I never had a car where all were bad at the same time.

Picture?

 

You should see what I have seen.

[pshome]

You should see what I have seen.

show me

[mk2_craig]

Convert it to rear drums?

[Braddon81]

Are there any pictures of the condition of the rear discs currently ? I'm sure they could be skimmed, we did this regularly at the main dealer I used to work at, or if the dimensions of the disc can be found from another fitment the correct Pcd could be cross drilled to fit the hub. I'm sure a bit of reverse engineering wouldn't be too difficult to sort this issue. ☺️

[HillmanImp]

Have you got the old discs? Can you not do what we used to do in the old days and just take them down to the motor factors and ask for 'some of these, they're off a Renault'.

[Junkman]

I'm pretty sure they could be skimmed. There are quite a few garages that still do it,

although I have no idea how much that costs.

The nearest ones I can find to where the R30 is would be

 

Eldwick Autos

Bradware Ind Park, Leonard St, Bingley

Telephone: 01274 916809

 

Evans Halshaw Bradford

Kings Road, Bradford

Telephone: 01274 230230

 

City Road Garage

City Road BRADFORD

Telephone: 01274 726604

 

 

However, nowadays this is done with the discs on the car, so it would have to be brought

to one of those places.

 

[Parky]

Pretty much any engineering shop should be able to skim them if you take them in

[Junkman]

There is a huge difference between 'able to do' and 'willing to do'. Especially at engineering companies.

[drum]

I had some discs skimmed last year. Bloke did them on a lathe he had set up for it while the car stayed at home. £10 a disc.

[Junkman]

Address? Phone number? Website?

[drum]

Send them to me.

[Ghosty]

Evans Halshaw?! I wouldn’t be taking them there, that’s a franchised new car dealer (probably Ford or Vauxhall).

[Junkman]

It's for Doubleyeller to decide.

 

My work here is done.

[doubleyeller]

It's for Doubleyeller to decide.

 

My work here is done.

 

Yeah thanks for all the replies guys and please don't think your info and efforts will not be followed up! I am MEGA busy with a few important things (not all of them bad) at present.Given that nobody is able to say that any given set of discs is suitable, the plan is to get the rear discs turned, and bide time till a NOS set appear on ebay for stupid low dosh! I can only hope that the rear discs are not - as Junkman indicated - going to be a sign of the R30 being made of unobtanium.................

[Daniel R25]

Hi,

I just checked PR 900 again. The rear disks are the same ones as R16 front ones (R1151-r1157). There is also a drawing of the Renault 30 disc which clearly shows 3-Loch. Part number remains 77 01 467 220.

I hope this makes things easier...

Get one of those PR900 bought. You will need it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-PR900-Catalogo-Parti-di-Ricambio-fino-al-1989-Spare-Parts-Catalog/272328154050?hash=item3f6805dbc2:g:FSsAAOSwWZ9XoGqE

Daniel

[Parky]

Later today I may be spinning past an old garage in Laindon which was a Renault main agent for donkeys before going independent 15 years ago. If I do pass that way I will pop in and ask if they have some nos parts out back

[Junkman]

Hi,

 

I just checked PR 900 again. The rear disks are the same ones as R16 front ones (R1151-r1157). There is also a drawing of the Renault 30 disc which clearly shows 3-Loch. Part number remains 77 01 467 220.

 

I hope this makes things easier...

 

Get one of those PR900 bought. You will need it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-PR900-Catalogo-Parti-di-Ricambio-fino-al-1989-Spare-Parts-Catalog/272328154050?hash=item3f6805dbc2:g:FSsAAOSwWZ9XoGqE

 

Daniel

 

 

3 Loch will not fit an R30, because it's 4 Loch, no matter how often they print it wrongly in a parts book.

That's why I said weeks ago ORL SPEARZ KATALOGGZ IZ SHT M8.

[Eddie Honda]

I still haven't seen any pictures of the discs on/from the car yet...

[doubleyeller]

I still haven't seen any pictures of the discs on/from the car yet...

 

Will get a photo on here as soon as work on the back begins. Currently BigDan30 is trying to find time to sort out the front ones. I live 45 miles away from this vehicular abomination and sadly have no (roadworthy) car at present. The 30 is kept at a house some 3 miles from the nearest train station,  so no easy nipping over to photo the offending part! Fortunately we have replacements for the front discs - with thanks to an anonymous donor! Not to worry, the lady owner of the drive has sold the old camper that was in front of the R30 and is able to park her car down the drive again, she seems to be a lot less bothered now. The issue may rear it's ugly head again, but I think we can safely assume this rusty old beast has a stay of execution extending at least a few weeks into the new year!

 

What the hell was I thinking taking this car on? It's a bloody stressful nightmare! It's just draining me of time and money both of which are in short supply at the moment!

[Daniel R25]

Hi Junkman,

You might want to reconsider your view.

The bolts of the wheel don't go through the disk. I have posted images of the setup before. And I specifically asked a Renault 30 nut about this as well. And no, Renault 25 parts will not fit as they are 4*100 or 5*108 and bolts go through the hub and disk. The shitty rear Calipers are the same, though (used up to 1996 in the Espace J63).

All Renault 30 V6 use the same rear disks. Also used in the A310 (rear) and A110 (front) and R16 front.

Daniel

 

[HillmanImp]

I can pop round and take photos etc. Its only about a mile away from me I think.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

Will get a photo on here as soon as work on the back begins. Currently BigDan30 is trying to find time to sort out the front ones. I live 45 miles away from this vehicular abomination and sadly have no (roadworthy) car at present. The 30 is kept at a house some 3 miles from the nearest train station, so no easy nipping over to photo the offending part! Fortunately we have replacements for the front discs - with thanks to an anonymous donor! Not to worry, the lady owner of the drive has sold the old camper that was in front of the R30 and is able to park her car down the drive again, she seems to be a lot less bothered now. The issue may rear it's ugly head again, but I think we can safely assume this rusty old beast has a stay of execution extending at least a few weeks into the new year!

 

What the hell was I thinking taking this car on? It's a bloody stressful nightmare! It's just draining me of time and money both of which are in short supply at the moment!

You took on a rare car with known rust issues, with parts in limited supply and have no personal transport.

No offence, but it was never going to be a walk in the park. If you’re stressed before you’ve really got your teeth into it, I worry about what state you’ll be in after 100+ hours of welding and fabricating, assuming you have the skills and facilities...

 

The car deserves to live, but it sounds like you could do with reviewing a few things first.

[Eddie Honda]

The bolts of the wheel don't go through the disk.

 

Something I queried earlier - the reverse case I can think of is the DAF55/66/Volvo 66 front discs - the discs have four holes to bolt onto the reverse of the hub and the hub has three studs for the three hole wheels.

[doubleyeller]

You took on a rare car with known rust issues, with parts in limited supply and have no personal transport.

No offence, but it was never going to be a walk in the park. If you’re stressed before you’ve really got your teeth into it, I worry about what state you’ll be in after 100+ hours of welding and fabricating, assuming you have the skills and facilities...

 

The car deserves to live, but it sounds like you could do with reviewing a few things first.

 

Lol, no offence taken AT!

I knew from my previous R20 project that it was going to be blood toil tears and sweat! Happily there, I held my nerve as it pushed me further down the track towards bankruptcy, and managed to sell it for a fair price to a man with his own welder and paint shop - result: car saved! Basically I did the mechanical work, enough to see it running and starting reliably again and all the electrics working. This was enough to make the car an attractive proposition to someone with the financial means to sort the bodywork. Thus the car was saved from the crusher, and that was good enough for me!

 

Basically this R30 would, by process of corrosion, have now have returned to the earth from whence it came if i hadn't been a nutter and "Saved" it. The problem here is that, contrary to all expectations, the mechanicals are actually all shit hot, all it needed was a couple of replacement fuses and a new battery! Whilst the R20 was structurally not that great, it looked less scruffy and therefore attracted a buyer. The R30 is actually the better car over all, but everybody takes one look at a dissolved rear door, cries "Rustbucket!" and runs a mile....

 

I'm too strong willed to give up, and I have never crushed a "Shite" car yet, but I do feel entitled, and suitably qualified in automotive despair, to use the forum to blow off steam now and again!

[Parky]

I appreciate the frustration Doubleyeller, it's bloody annoying when a fairly ordinary service part threatens an entire project and having had to store cars miles from home myself, I too have had to faff about.

 

Vent away, nobody restoring a defunct French barge has ever managed it without at least three major rows with the wife, a large plasterers bill from kicking a wall, or a week in A&E for burns treatment after torching the ungrateful Gallic bastard. You are doing well with it and a lot of us on here will be happy to help you out where we can

[Daniel R25]

Hi,

you can count on me as well.

I would even ask the landlord to cut out the nearside rear quarter panel before the German car is crushed. I guess he'd only to it if you paid for it. And transport is another question. We have moved all the other bits so it is up to him to crush the shell.

My R30td is nearly roadworthy. But still, I don't find the time to get it on the road.

Daniel

 

[doubleyeller]

Hi,

 

you can count on me as well.

 

I would even ask the landlord to cut out the nearside rear quarter panel before the German car is crushed. I guess he'd only to it if you paid for it. And transport is another question. We have moved all the other bits so it is up to him to crush the shell.

 

My R30td is nearly roadworthy. But still, I don't find the time to get it on the road.

 

Daniel

 

 

 

Thanks  - my father had a moribund (gearbox)  R20 as a stopgap measure back in the early 90's, I think they were otherwise pretty well extinct over here even then! It turned out to be his favourite car, he always regretted the day it finally packed up. But even he told me this R30 was more trouble than it was going to be worth, just scrap it and write it off as a lost cause etc!