Des Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I gambled 40 sovs on this from Amazon. Had a play and it's bloody great! The bead breaker works very well and the platform part holds the wheel securely, I've been doing tyres all wrong up until today. It's supposed to be bolted down to the floor, but I didn't fancy it permanently in my way for the odd bit of use, found an old frame to lash it onto that could then be screwed to some timbers or an old pallet. This is what makes it a decent bit of kit, nice coarse acme thread on the collar that secures the hub for the levering and the jerking, the tugging and the twerking. Not being sensible I tried it out first on a stupid low profile on a gaudy monkey metal wheel of a ridiculous modern wankbox, well if my brother leaves it in my yard it's going to get fucked with, obvious issue is that the locking collar and / or spider thing are going to gouge up the fancy chocolate rim, and people can be quite prissy about the fruity little trinkets, luckily I couldn't give less of a shite, even more luckily a bit of old wastepipe fitting that's to hand is perfect to cushion things. And here's the delivered goods. I was working in a tight space for the sake of moving a car, but was ok, swung the lever left and right rather than round and round, I reckon when I use it next on a proper wheel it will be a piece of piss, especially if I get some tyre soap in. Rave, drum, UltraWomble and 20 others 23
stuboy Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 i used to use manual bead breaker, tyre leavers and brick hammer... days gone.. Cavcraft and Faker 2
Cavcraft Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 We've got one of those, but breaking the beads on alloys is just about impossible.
Lankytim Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I could do with one for all the clunkers I end up scrapping! I often end up cutting the rim with an angle grinder. B0110X can somehow change tyres on the floor with massive bike tyre levers. A sight to behold.
stuboy Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 using one of these and trying not to chop off my tootsies
Cavcraft Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Is that the slide hammer type? I have, or had, a TL bar about 6 inches long that you whacked with a lump hammer to break the beads. Never much of a struggle on steels, but a PITA on alloys. *Edit: like this strangeangel 1
drum Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Breaking the bead is no problem when you have one of these twosmoke300, Banger Kenny, DVee8 and 6 others 9
Mally Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 We've got one of those, but breaking the beads on alloys is just about impossible. Same here. Now have one of these.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/automotech-tyre-machine/253238756245?hash=item3af634c395:g:UmUAAOSwdnZZ-v33 Nothing fancy but do the job. Paid around £600 new for ours, this one is cheap at the moment https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tyre-Changer-Machine/322859898717?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48784%26meid%3Dd4070ab46af9464ea8eca5957867b616%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D253238756245&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982Edit, ours is actually like this.
DaveDorson Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I'm lucky. Managed to snaggle a Hoffman compressor and tyre changer from some bloke who had bought it for his Caterham, but could no longer be bothered so uses his mate instead. Got the balancer and all the fancy scmancy stuff with it too. Makes my life a fair bit easier. It'd only got about 60 hours use on it when I got it all.
garbaldy Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I started off with tyre levers and used to break the bead with a plank and drove a car up it, those days are long gone now as it takes hours to do four and my times much more valuable these days. I tried one of those in the OPs post and fucked it of for an air powered one when it wouldn't grip the wheels properly, this new one was much better at breaking the bead and holding the wheel while levering round, I still got sick and now have a half share in two automatic tyre machines and wouldn't look back, one is a corgi and was an ex tyre fitters £150 so I've well and truly had my £75 worth, the other was a cheep eBay one and it's just as good,I can't recommend one highly enough if you have the space and can pick a good quality one up from a fitter, they seem to change them regularly enough.
colnerov Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Breaking the bead is no problem when you have one of these IMG_0526.JPG I used to use one of these, in fact maybe even that one. Colin
3VOM Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I gambled 40 sovs on this from Amazon.Have you got a link for it, because I'm after one and £40 is cheap? Also what is the largest wheel it takes, because the cheaper ones tend only to go up to 15-16" ?
Matt Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Have you got a link for it, because I'm after one and £40 is cheap? Also what is the largest wheel it takes, because the cheaper ones tend only to go up to 15-16" ? Here's one for £32. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Tyre-Changer-Breaker-Wheel-Bead-Tool-Mount-Home-Portable-Tire-Car-Auto/152768765078?epid=0&hash=item2391ba5c96:g:TnMAAOSw-olZ-XyJ
Des Posted November 3, 2017 Author Posted November 3, 2017 We've got one of those, but breaking the beads on alloys is just about impossible.Try letting the air out of the tyre. cros 1
Des Posted November 3, 2017 Author Posted November 3, 2017 Have you got a link for it, because I'm after one and £40 is cheap? Also what is the largest wheel it takes, because the cheaper ones tend only to go up to 15-16" ? That ebay one is a right bargain, here's the Amazon more expensive but I'd rather pay extra than go near ebay scum yes I know they all are but ebay are just so much more worse and utterly vile. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0757KWNP6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Description says 8'' to 16'' inch, I don't see why it wouldn't take bigger, don't see why anyone would want to, you got a Penny Farthing Mister?
3VOM Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 That ebay one is a right bargain, here's the Amazon more expensive but I'd rather pay extra than go near ebay scum yes I know they all are but ebay are just so much more worse and utterly vile. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0757KWNP6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Description says 8'' to 16'' inch, I don't see why it wouldn't take bigger, don't see why anyone would want to, you got a Penny Farthing Mister?17" Alloys M8 Tempted to go for one, the 17" will be a one off, most of my other stuff is smaller.
Matt Posted November 5, 2017 Posted November 5, 2017 Does anyone know if there is an effective way to seat a tyre bead without a proper compressor (other than aerosol and fire)? I'm guessing one of those 12v cigarette lighter socket ones wouldn't have enough oomph. I'd quite like one but if i would need to buy a compressor it'd take forever for it to pay itself off. Looking at them online it's pretty critical to make some changes if you care even slightly about how your wheels look. One guy cut some bits out of an old tyre side wall to put under the wheel and under the X-clamp thing and I think these would be a good idea: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-Car-Tire-Changer-Tool-Guard-Rim-Protector-Tyre-Wheel-Changing-Rim-Edge-UK/122772992124?hash=item1c95d7307c:g:TmAAAOSw0exZ8Fef
DodgeRover Posted November 5, 2017 Posted November 5, 2017 You can't really pop them onto the bead without lots of air flow and pressure unfortunately.
wuvvum Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 I managed to get a tyre to seat on a Mondeo alloy using my Lidl suitcase compressor - although to be fair that thing does flow a decent amount of air for a wee machine, I doubt you'd have much luck using a 12v fag lighter job.
Des Posted November 6, 2017 Author Posted November 6, 2017 If you wang on a ratchet strap, or the belt from your breeches if you're a big bastard, radially in the centre of the tyre thread, it should encourage the tyre beads to seal enough to get around the need for airflow allowing the Lidl ciggy pump to pop the walls....... Eventually.I've done it that way with a footpump when I were a lad.Or there's a lighter fuel procedure usually employed by fashionable tyre stretchers, judging by the trouble those guys seem to have with their breeches falling down I can only imagine that many of them have sadly ruined their belts before trying that method. Skizzer, Rave, Eddie Honda and 2 others 5
Tickman Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 I've done exactly as Des says with a ratchet strap around the whole tire and used the slowest 12 volt compressor in the world which did work.
Sir Snipes Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 Does anyone know if there is an effective way to seat a tyre bead without a proper compressor (other than aerosol and fire)? I'm guessing one of those 12v cigarette lighter socket ones wouldn't have enough oomph. I'd quite like one but if i would need to buy a compressor it'd take forever for it to pay itself off. Looking at them online it's pretty critical to make some changes if you care even slightly about how your wheels look. One guy cut some bits out of an old tyre side wall to put under the wheel and under the X-clamp thing and I think these would be a good idea: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-Car-Tire-Changer-Tool-Guard-Rim-Protector-Tyre-Wheel-Changing-Rim-Edge-UK/122772992124?hash=item1c95d7307c:g:TmAAAOSw0exZ8FefThey work but if it’s a very low profile tyre there’s not enough room to get under the tyre and lever it up with that guard in place. For sensibile sizes with a bit of sidewall they work fine.
They_all_do_that_sir Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 My dad has a decent compressor......tempted by one of the cheapo ones.... I've never used one, are they hard to use? Sent from my SM-A510F using Tapatalk
Fabergé Greggs Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I used to inflate my tubeless mountain bike tyres using the following method. Perhaps for a car tyre it would work with some big 5 gallon container or something.. http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/ghetto-tubeless-inflator-total-cost-9p
Des Posted January 14, 2018 Author Posted January 14, 2018 Encouraged by that tyre plopper, I chanced my arse on another piece of indispensable Chinese workshop toot. It's kind of OK, for a simple bottle jack powered effort, doesn't flex too much. I've always intended to knock one up but will never get around to it, especially not now since the scrapknackers have cleared the land of any surplus RSJs going spare. Only a little over 4' high and easy to move around, and I've already modified it where the return springs didn't retract the jack fully home giving me a useful extra 1/4'' working range, and stuck an old metal knob on the release valve. Fnarr, knob. I think it's all the press I'll ever need, and now I can look down my nose at anyone lump hammertwatting bearings like I've always done, if I was offered a proper one for nothing I'd have to turn it down due to space considerations, that and I'll probably want to hang it somewhere when I get bored squishing pennies. Skizzer, Rave, Sigmund Fraud and 3 others 6
warninglight Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 I bought one of these a couple of months ago, and bolted it to my transporter trailer. I've used old rags under the spider clamp thing to successfully grip and avoid scoring alloys. The bead breaker takes a bit of work to pop on tyres that have been on for ages and I've found that's the bit that damages the wheels the most. I bought a plastic ended tyre bar though, it makes it much easier and smoother to pop tyres off and on, again without taking paint off or leaving red paint everywhere...
Guest Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 You need a Cheetah, hours of fun to be had .. no one in trackies is safe. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TYRE-INFLATOR-BEAD-SEATER-AIR-BLASTER-BOOSTER-LIKE-CHEETAH-EASY-TYRE-INFLATION-/262785573603 overrun and richardthestag 2
Cavcraft Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Does anyone know if there is an effective way to seat a tyre bead without a proper compressor (other than aerosol and fire)? I'm guessing one of those 12v cigarette lighter socket ones wouldn't have enough oomph. I'd quite like one but if i would need to buy a compressor it'd take forever for it to pay itself off. Looking at them online it's pretty critical to make some changes if you care even slightly about how your wheels look. One guy cut some bits out of an old tyre side wall to put under the wheel and under the X-clamp thing and I think these would be a good idea: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-Car-Tire-Changer-Tool-Guard-Rim-Protector-Tyre-Wheel-Changing-Rim-Edge-UK/122772992124?hash=item1c95d7307c:g:TmAAAOSw0exZ8Fef Looks a bit of a faff. If using a crap compressor, take the valve core out first and give the tyre a thump at the top of the tread as you move it round whilst trying to inflate.
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