Idea for Roffle on more expensive cars........

[Tamworthbay]

Looking at a car on here has got me thinking, I couldn't justify punting £70 on a Roffle but would love to have a go so I starting thinking how you could do it for less money. I have had two ideas (numbers based on the Mustang, could be adapted for more less) -

 

1, instead of running it over one draw we run it over four. The first three are like a normal roffle where people buy a number 1-59. The three winners then get a block of numbers in the fourth draw, 1-19, 20-39, 40-59 and one wins the car. Someone could buy three tickets across the draws and 'own' the number and avoid the fourth draw.

 

2, run over two draws, in the first there are three slots for each number, someone can buy the whole number or a portion of it. The second draw (if needed) would be split up as above.

 

I know it's a bit complicated but would bring the cost of a ticket down to around £20 and would mean more people could have a go - could be good or bad depending how desireable the car is.

 

What do people think? Any other ideas?

[Tamworthbay]

People could also get together and have a go to co-own the car if they wanted.

[M'coli]

It sort of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? I mean, an AS roffle is meant to be fun (and sighs of relief) for 59 people (the vendor's included in this total), and one person going "oh fuck, how am I going to explain this one!"

[Heidel_Kakao]

Yeah it does overly complicated, for me a roffle is ideal for cars that you maybe would not be prepared to pay £300 or £500 etc to buy directly but would be quite happy to win for £5 or possibly a bit more depending on how many tickets you buy.

 

What has been the most expensive roffle on here anyway? At the bus museum visit there was mention of a Range Rover at £20 a ticket but I must have missed that one.

[Cheggers]

I thought the whole idea of a roffle was to shift cars that would be hard to sell in the real world?

 

Not the case with the canary Mustang

 

 

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[Tamworthbay]

Partly, but also a way to sell a car without dealing with the usual eBay knuckle dragging morons.

[DodgyBastard]

People have been doing this for ages on facebook raffle groups when trying to raffle expensive cars. It's difficult enough trying to sell 59 numbers at the best of times so trying to sell 240 tickets to bring the cost down just isn't going to happen on here. Maybe it would work on PH.

[Jim Bell]

We should have a fucking bingo system. Everyone that wants to play picks 15 numbers between 1-59 @£1 a number. The bonus ball every lottery draw in the "call". First one to clear the card "wins" a shit car.

Would take fucking ages and the car could dissolve/run out of tax/mot while we all enjoy ourselves with our dabbers.

[doug]

Would a half of the cost roffle work with the "winner" paying the balance?

[barefoot]

I don't come on here because I want an expensive car!

[Tamworthbay]

People have been doing this for ages on facebook raffle groups when trying to raffle expensive cars. It's difficult enough trying to sell 59 numbers at the best of times so trying to sell 240 tickets to bring the cost down just isn't going to happen on here. Maybe it would work on PH.

What's Facebook?

[DodgyBastard]

What's Facebook?

 

A place for roffling expensive cars.

[Tamworthbay]

A place for roffling expensive cars.

Sounds shit.

[Wack]

Sounds shit.

 

It is, and full of twats

[New POD]

Whilst I have bought a few tikets, in the past, I decided a few weeks back to make it a personal rule that I won't buy a roffle tikit unless it's £6 or less, plus I will only buy a ticit if 59 x the price of one ticket < the Gumtree price minus 20%   That is £354 for the vendor verses a gumtree price of £443.

 

I've noticed that the "believed" value by the vendor is usually very optimistic.

 

Now if someone can find a way to sell more tickets with a max of £6. I'd be happy with a 1 in 100 chance but no worse.

[Jim Bell]

Sexy maths.

[DodgyBastard]

It is, and full of twats

 

Much like this forum.

[Wack]

Much like this forum.

I much like this forum too

[Ghosty]

Eh?

[New POD]

It is, and full of twats

I thought we cleaned up the cars and girls thread ?

Or were you talking about Arsebook and Pissedonheads ?

[Junkman]

At the bus museum visit there was mention of a Range Rover at £20 a ticket but I must have missed that one.

 

You did indeed.

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/25987-range-rover-roffel-its-all-over-now-caution-victim-established/page-12

[Tamworthbay]

Sorry guys,what have I started? I never believed I could Roffle Lexy but would be amazing if I could The point New Pod makes is valid though some prices of some cars out there are wayy too optimistic

I think we all price things a little higher than where we want to be because if we priced them t what we wanted we wouldn't get it as everybody wants a little off the price its human nature

Its like what i am selling I see people price same cars with the 3.8 V6 at £5k when really a mint one id worth half that,whereas the V8 is generally £1-2k more expensive.

Ive priced mine to sell

I can understand why nobody would want to pay £68 for a Roffle Ticket I get that just thought id get in there with the comment before somebody asked me if I would?

Truthfully I don't think there is a real way to roffle mine but yeh would be fun if it could work

I just put the thread to see what people thought, it looks like it's not a goer and sorry for mentioning your car without asking first. I was just interested to see if there was a way. I would love your car but don't have £4K spare and couldn't really justify the price of a ticket. Based on my lifetime of luck in raffles/ lotteries etc it's much easier to justify losing £20 than £more as I know I won't win but getbthe fun of having a chance all the same.

 

Good luck with the sale mate, it's a cracking car and I am sure it will find a good home without too much trouble.

[egg]

Would a half of the cost roffle work with the "winner" paying the balance?

 

I've often mused about that 'model' in my head. But the downside is there'll always be a few who sign up for the roffle and then say they don't have the readies for the balance.

 

And to be fair - if you win a roffle you already have price of ticket + collection + insurance + VED.

 

So it's never really a car for a fiver is it!

[Tamworthbay]

I've often mused about that 'model' in my head. But the downside is there'll always be a few who sign up for the roffle and then say they don't have the readies for the balance.

 

And to be fair - if you win a roffle you already have price of ticket + collection + insurance + VED.

 

So it's never really a car for a fiver is it!

I guess if they then pull out it could be reroffled a second time but the second lucky winner gets the car for the cost of the ticket. I think the problem would be finding 59 people who eat to buy the car for half its value, I doubt there would be many takers as it would only be worth doing on an expensive car.

[egg]

I quite like the 'four draw' idea myself.

 

I think it could work on exceptional occasions if there was a car that really needed to stay on these brown pages, but was a bit to valuable to do in 59 numbers.

 

Say, if Bornite decided to roffle the bASe (god forbid), it would work then perhaps.

[flat4alfa]

Would a half of the cost roffle work with the "winner" paying the balance?

 

Yes I reckon a roffle ticket ceiling price and then the winning mug hero finds the difference 

 

e.g. P38 Range Rover for £10 a head with agreed cash upon collection payment of £400.  Therefore: better than half-price motoring

 

To me, there is not enough difference between £6 and £10 to fuss about - well, ok - but not when compared what gets put behind the bar on a Friday, or the Wifes hairdo on a Saturday.  Filling the tank on the Monday makes £4 seem negligible in a way.  Craig David would be round on Tuesday anyhow.

[Jazoli]

Yes I reckon a roffle ticket ceiling price and then the winning mug hero finds the difference 

 

e.g. P38 Range Rover for £10 a head with agreed cash upon collection payment of £400.  Therefore: better than half-price motoring

 

To me, there is not enough difference between £6 and £10 to fuss about - well, ok - but not when compared what gets put behind the bar on a Friday, or the Wifes hairdo on a Saturday.  Filling the tank on the Monday makes £4 seem negligible in a way.  Craig David would be round on Tuesday anyhow.

 

It wouldn't work, I bet 90% of folk on here would not have £400 to hand if they won the roffle (myself included most of the time)

 

Roffles only work when the ticket price is the only price and usually when they are under a tenner and the car is a desirable/different car to a lot of folk, I used to enter every roffle but after winning one and having the adventure* of collection, insuring then getting rid of it I won't bother unless its a car I would actually use.

 

*ballache.

[flat4alfa]

It wouldn't work, I bet 90% of folk on here would not have £400 to hand if they won the roffle

 

But the deal would be on the table from the outset.  This thread is about finding a solution to more expensive cars.  If you don't have the £1000 but fancy a Range Rover and could find the £400, then get a ticket or three.

 

If you don't, then you've already moved further down the page to a £6.50 Perodua Nippa roffle thread instead.

 

It might even be a Nippa that realises the £400 to get a chance on the Rangey!  Onwards and upwards! to a P38 of doom.

[Junkman]

I think this thread is bloody stupid.

 

Is it only me?

[eddyramrod]

I think this thread is bloody stupid.

No:

 

This thread is about finding a solution to more expensive cars.

 

But:

It wouldn't work, I bet 90% of folk on here would not have £400 to hand if they won the roffle (myself included most of the time)

Sorry to be a wet blanket, everyone, but ^THIS!

 

OK, this thread is about kicking ideas around to make the Roffle model work for more expensive cars than the usual shite, but so far I haven't seen an idea that looks workable.  And before you ask, no, I don't have anything better to offer.  I don't know what the solution is, beyond "none of the above."  Maybe the answer is, don't try to Roffle cars that are worth more than about £600?  Maybe the answer is, offer something so desirable that it'll be like catnip and we won't be able to resist.  A bright yellow V8 Mustang, just for example.  I wouldn't be able to afford more than one ticket, even that would be a bit of an issue but I'd find it somehow.

 

Keep at it team, maybe between us we can work it out.