BeEP Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 RHD Allegros all parked to the driver's side. Honestly. Trust me (and DW). As did the ado_16 (1100/1300) range before them. Opportunity for another gratuitous photo! Magnificent Rustbucket, Skizzer, chaseracer and 1 other 4
robinmasters Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 I’m with Mag Rust on this. But it wouldn’t surprise me if RHD Allegros were all wrong from the factory - or even randomly-handed. That seems the likely explanation. 'Those are LHD wipers' 'But I've always used those ones' 'They're wrong' 'Strike!' Magnificent Rustbucket, brandersnatch, HillmanImp and 1 other 4
Alusilber Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 RHD Allegros all parked to the driver's side. Honestly. Trust me (and DW). As did the ado_16 (1100/1300) range before them. Opportunity for another gratuitous photo! DHK810B nsf.JPG Not to mention all but very early Marinas too?
captain_70s Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Dolomite wipers are also backwards, except the LHD models... Which are only backwards in LHD countries... DSdriver 1
Tadhg Tiogar Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Looks like BL did it this way so that they only needed to use one tooling/pressing for the wiper arm pivot holes.
HillmanImp Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 I think my GT6 wipers park on the right too. I have to say it's never even crossed my mind that it might be unusual.
dollywobbler Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Looks like BL did it this way so that they only needed to use one tooling/pressing for the wiper arm pivot holes. They later just used blanking plugs for the old holes (Mini, Metro). The LHD for RHD way is good in that the blades hold the water at the base of the windscreen. The RHD wipers don't meet the A post, but wipe towards the bottom of the screen, leaving a load of water to blow back up the windscreen. Hillman Hunters also had LHD for RHD and vice versa. The Citroen GS and Peugeot 504 had LHD wipers for EVERYTHING.
dollywobbler Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Triumph 2000s and Volkswagen Type 2 bay windows had LHD wipers for RHD, but Australia ruled this stupid, and insisted on RHD wipers. So, Austrialian 2000s had Stag wipers (with pantograph action, HOT). And Australian VWs had RHD wipers. The 1970s was a crazy time.
Felly Magic Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 VW decided the mk2 Golf first gen would have left hand drive wipers, even though mk1's had them set out to the correct RHD, idiots
dollywobbler Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 VW decided the mk2 Golf first gen would have left hand drive wipers, even though mk1's had them set out to the correct RHD, idiots Indeed. I remember the scathing reviews by Top Gear, and the celebration when Volkswagen gave in and fitted the wipers the correct way around.
SiC Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Clio II have the wipers the wrong way. Annoyed me no end when I owned one.
Tadhg Tiogar Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Indeed. I remember the scathing reviews by Top Gear, and the celebration when Volkswagen gave in and fitted the wipers the correct way around. Took them five years to capitulate, though.
MorrisItalSLX Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Triumph 2000s and Volkswagen Type 2 bay windows had LHD wipers for RHD, but Australia ruled this stupid, and insisted on RHD wipers. So, Austrialian 2000s had Stag wipers (with pantograph action, HOT). And Australian VWs had RHD wipers. The 1970s was a crazy time. Australia had some fantastic* regulations that were introduced in the 70s and 80s that made foreign manufacturers very* pleased**. dollywobbler 1
MorrisItalSLX Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 For Example: Cars with rear door mounted spare wheels had to have the brake lights, tail lights and indicators mounted in the bumper, as to not be obsqured by the wheel. British/Normal Disco 2: Aussie Disco 2: This meant that manufacturers had to make "Australian spec" models, or design cars to meet our special rules. For more information, See: https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/ 2nd & 3rd edtion ADRs
NorfolkNWeigh Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Do you really want to open the Disco lights can of worms?I've never been sure which lights should be where on Discovery 1 and 2s , I'm sure my first (89) V8 had everything in the upper position but subsequent ones had either everything in the bumper or maybe just the tail lights there. The most vulnerable place and also likely to be filled with mud , or in the case of one liable to be washed out of the bumper when fording.
dollywobbler Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 For Example: Cars with rear door mounted spare wheels had to have the brake lights, tail lights and indicators mounted in the bumper, as to not be obsqured by the wheel. British/Normal Disco 2: Aussie Disco 2: This meant that manufacturers had to make "Australian spec" models, or design cars to meet our special rules. For more information, See: https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/ 2nd & 3rd edtion ADRs Actually, your pics merely show the Disco II and Disco II facelift (top). They were the same in the UK, though a rule change meant they no longer had to observe the 'lights must be seen' rule. Maybe they put extra lamps in the door? No idea. On the Disco 1, the facelift introduced rear lamps in the bumper, but they were so shit that many got their dealers to fit the higher-up lights as well.
quicksilver Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Looks like BL did it this way so that they only needed to use one tooling/pressing for the wiper arm pivot holes.BL weren't even consistent with which way their wipers went - Landcrabs and Maxis have theirs set up the correct way. The Renault 6 has LHD wipers too, probably because French (i.e. they couldn't be bothered to change them for RHD).
MorrisItalSLX Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Do you really want to open the Disco lights can of worms?I've never been sure which lights should be where on Discovery 1 and 2s , I'm sure my first (89) V8 had everything in the upper position but subsequent ones had either everything in the bumper or maybe just the tail lights there. The most vulnerable place and also likely to be filled with mud , or in the case of one liable to be washed out of the bumper when fording. Actually, your pics merely show the Disco II and Disco II facelift (top). They were the same in the UK, though a rule change meant they no longer had to observe the 'lights must be seen' rule. Maybe they put extra lamps in the door? No idea. On the Disco 1, the facelift introduced rear lamps in the bumper, but they were so shit that many got their dealers to fit the higher-up lights as well. The Disco 2 was a bad example, The 70 series Land Crusier would have been better. Japanese Market: Australian Market: (You can see the blacked out indicators in the top lamps)
dollywobbler Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 We had the same rules here. Affected the Mitsubishi Shogun, Isuzu Trooper and even the Suzuki Vitara.
Tadhg Tiogar Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Australia had some fantastic* regulations that were introduced in the 70s and 80s that made foreign manufacturers very* pleased**.Mmm, like insisting on RHD cars. Cue expensive aftermarket conversion industry for things like Ford Mustangs....
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