For Sale Pug 306 GTI666 - Wanna buy it?

[J-T]

 

I've had this thing since November sometime, bought it on a whim as it was only about 25 miles away and it's exactly the same as one I had 10 years ago and I must have been feeling nostalgic! It's not bad overall, body is nice and straight but it needs a really good clean inside. Last owner did the clutch (usually they are set in concrete but this one's good), the cambelt and a service 1000 miles ago and amazingly for a 306 the aircon still works!

 

Things I don't like are that it's been lowered and feels like it has stiffer shocks as it's bone jarringly stiff, so I think I'll put that back to standard eventually. It has cheap induction kit on it but I've bought the proper airbox for it, just not got round to fitting it yet The gearchange is as you would expect of a 17 year old french car so linkages/bushes are in order and I've a feeling it needs engine mounts as there is a lot of transmission shunt. This scares me as they have a tendancy to crack the top mount due to the extra stress of the bigger engine. We shall see! It also smells musty as fook inside as I think the front doors are letting water in.

 

One reason I've not really done anything with it is because it developed a problem with the brake lights whereby they were always on so I thought I'd finally get round to sorting it today - brake light switch being the likely culprit. What  BASTARD of a job!! I did intend on taking pics along the way but I got that pissed off I didn't bother.

 

When I had a proper look there was a peice of cardboard cable tied to the top of the brake pedal as it wasn't making proper contact with the switch. So I thought I would just shove some more in and cable tie it again so it made proper contact. In doing this I managed to dislodge the switch, which is buried in the most inaccessable place right at the top of the brake pedal behind a metal dashboard bracket. The only way to get at it was to remove the drivers air vent and all of the ducting, force my arm down there and work blind. There just isn't enough room to manouvre the switch into the correct position and I must have pissed around with the sodding thing for 2 hours before I got it in. By this time my arm now looked like a self harm poster. I even dropped the steering column at one point which made no difference at all and wasted about an hour, trying to find a torx driver long and thin enough to remove the steering cowling, which I managed to break anyway. So feeling pretty chuffed that it was now all back in properly, I switched on the ignition, only to discover that the brake lights were still permanently on, as it still wasn't seated properly. So, steps one to elleventy million were repeated, my arm was further macerated until after another hour of swearing and messing it was finally in properly and normal brake light function was resumed. I never ever ever ever ever want to do that job again.

 

Then I thought I'd have a look at sealing the driver's door as water is getting in through the speaker, I'm sure my old one did this as well. First to come out was the speaker, which was soaking wet so that's definitely where the problem is. Upon undoing the fixings it was clear someone has been there before as they are all pretty chewed but had enough left to undo them. Apart that is, from the inaccessable one, buried deep in the door handle - no the absolute fuck nugget has rounded that one good and proper and because it's so buried I can't get an extractor on it. So I had to sack that off until I purchase one long enough. So it still leaks. So it still stinks.

 

Today has not been a good day with this car. I am hoping the relationship improves!!

 

 

 

[matty879]

ive had 2 that colour but diesels,by far the best colour,i had a dturbo on a 6 box it was mint on fuel,congrats on the switch last and only one I did involved a drill a grinder and a welder,never again,keep up the good work,getting rare now!!

[PhillipM]

Last time I did a brake switch on one I did it from underneath in the footwell. Means you have two dents in your head from trying to hold the pedals out of the way with your noggin and a permenent bend in your back from it doing a 90* turn over the sill but at least fitting the brake switch is fairly easy.

[Jim Bell]

They're getting scarce now, as there's always been good money in breaking them. Nice to see one getting unmodded.

[Aston Martin]

How Peugeot went from this to the 307 is beyond me.

[fatharris]

They still look remarkably good and fresh for a car that's well over 20 years old in design.

Is it a keeper?

[J-T]

It's a keeper in that I haven't bought it to sell it, but you know what it's like when you see something else. Certainly no plans to get rid any time soon, just try and get it back to nice standard condition and make it more pleasant to drive.

 

I'd say they've hit their bottom in terms of value now, so thought I'd get another before I missed the boat - I remember looking at 205 GTIs for what this cost 10 years ago. No chance now (not that I would ever manage to keep a car 10 years, but still!)

 

I think this and the 406 were Peugeot's high water mark. Everything that came after slowly got worse - like you say, park a 307 next to this and you really wonder how that design ever got signed off.

[320touring]

looks lovely!good luck with it- would be interesting to do a side by side review against my 1.9Dturbo

[tooSavvy]

I'd say they've hit their bottom in terms of value now, so thought I'd get another before I missed the boat - I remember looking at 205 GTIs for what this cost 10 years ago. No chance now (not that I would ever manage to keep a car 10 years, but still!)

I bought MrSavvy 8yr ago.... No one need worry about missing any boats or value troughs....

 

It was worth 50p the day after I drove it from the dealer but I haven't lost a sov as its a keeper lolz

 

 

TS

[J-T]

Bit of an update on this (absolutely nothing to most on here, but hey it's something!)

 

The original steering wheel had gone all manky and I couldn't stand touching it

 

 

I know it sounds daft but it was stopping me using the car, it was sticky and horrible. Wasn't a particuarly nice wheel anyway

 

 

Dunno why the pic is on its side, but there you go!! I struggled finding another one that wasn't in pretty much the same state, but a bit of googling revealed that a 206 GTI wheel and airbag will fit provided it's pre 2001 as that's when they went to multiplex wiring and the airbag has a different connector. Managed to find one of those instead so that is what it's sporting now

 

 

Next up was to get it running a bit smoother. It was a bit lumpy at idle and would bog down after it was revved to almost stall. Prime suspect for all this was the shitty Ramair induction kit it had that was falling to bits. In order to get that off I had to try and find an OE airbox setup which proved easier said than done seeing as everyone seemed to throw them away and fit an induction kit. I managed to find someone breaking a GTI on ebay that still had one, apparently in good condition so bought that.

 

 

When it arrived however it wasn't great - the spring clips on the metal airbox were all rusted solid, one of the mounting studs had sheared off (you can see one on the bottom bracket, the top one is missing) and the top bolt had brought the captive nut out with it as it was also rusted solid. However beggers cant be choosers, although I was a bit pissed off at paying £30 for it, so I set about trying to sort it out. I kept soaking the clips in plusgas for a week and managed to free them off and put a new filter inside. I chopped off the top bolt which had to be replaced with a cable tie as the captive nut was missing from my car too, although it's not really needed provided I could sort the side brackets. I managed to drill out the broken stud

 

 

I just chopped down an M8 bolt and used that instead. Much swearing was had as it was only just long enough and kept falling out as it was inaccessable once the whole assembly was in place but eventually I managed to get it in the right place with just enough left to get it fixed on properly

 

 

Tilt your head again, dunno why it's doing this with the pics! And here's a pic of it and the resonator box in situ

 

 

Seems like an over complicated setup to me but what do I know? There is meant to be a sort of plastic snorkel leading from the air intake to the grill to give it a fresh air feed and presumably make sure things dont fall in but I don't have that so I'll just have to avoid large puddles until I find one!

 

Thankfully this has sorted the bogging down issue and it seems to be idling better now (well it did once I jump started it after the battery had died a death. My own fault for leaving it for 3 weeks). Probably makes marginally more power with this setup too, I don't think I've ever had a car that ran better with an induction kit rather than the stock airbox.

 

I'm off this week so can hopefully get a few more bits done if the weather holds out. I really wanna give it a proper clean, it's filthy inside - I always seem to be spurred on when whatever car I'm working on is scrubbed up and looks like it could be something to be proud of rather than just having limped out of the yard.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Well done. Me and my garage mate changed the alternator on his GTi-6 last week. It took the two of us about four hours!!! what a flippin palaver. You have to take the inlet manifold and loads of other shite off the engine, undo the engine mount and jack up the motor till the alternator mounting bolt 🔩 aligns with a specially-placed hole in the chassis leg that you can extract the bolt into. Fuck off!!!!!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Lovely engine though when its on song

[AnthonyG]

Nice to see one being reverse-modded. Gorgeous 1990s colour.

 

If you did hold onto it for 10 years it would probably be worth it, having said that you would probably need to cherish in cotton wool for maximum financial return.

 

But of course you would be wanting to drive it instead!

[J-T]

Well done. Me and my garage mate changed the alternator on his GTi-6 last week. It took the two of us about four hours!!! what a flippin palaver. You have to take the inlet manifold and loads of other shite off the engine, undo the engine mount and jack up the motor till the alternator mounting bolt aligns with a specially-placed hole in the chassis leg that you can extract the bolt into. Fuck off!!!!!

 

Sounds as bad as the GTV - the subframe had to be dropped to get that bastard out!!

 

Lovely engine though when its on song

 

They do go well, not as 'peaky' as some of the first 16v engines. I think the gearing really makes them as well - 3rd, 4th and 5th are really close so it's always on song once you wind it up.

 

I'm thinking about investing in some new rubber for it. It's on Toyo Proxes but they're old and pretty well worn and they are 50 profile where they should be 55. I know I sound like a rivet counter there but I remember when I had my last one, everyone used to put 50 profile tyres on as they were quite a lot cheaper than the 55s but again it makes the ride poorer and I think Peugeot knew best in that department. Plus I really wanna be able to trust it properly when pushing on, as these can get PROPER twitchy! Not that I loon it about that much but if you don't feel like you can in a car like this, then what's the point?

[nacho man]

These are ace, and can be a proper bargain hot hatch.

 

 

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[J-T]

 

Help! I've only the one key for this and I've somehow managed to bend it in my pocket I IZ URI GELLARRRRRRR

 

It will still start the car but it's too bent to fit in any of the locks. I don't want to risk bending it back as I know I will snap it and then I'll be frigged. Do you reckon if I take it to Timpsons or wherever they can cut a new blade?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I'm sure they can, they'll no doubt squeeze it flat in a little vice first, it doesn't look that bent.

[Pillock]

Timpsons managed to reproduce a key that I snapped clean on half so that shouldn't be a problem.

Flatten first and copy. Don't use the flattened key after that because you can almost guarantee it will just deposit the end in your ignition barrel.

[explosive-cabbage]

Must have been a fairly stiff erection to bend a key in your pocket like that!

[J-T]

Fitted a new top engine mount to this today. I couldn't find one at any of the usual places but a bit of part number googling revealed that 206s use the same mount which everyone had loads of, so that's what it got. The old one didn't actually seem too bad when I got it off but it must have gone to brie as the new one's made a right difference - I can change gear now without the engine trying to get out! The mount cradle is nice and solid as well, no cracks which I was a bit concerned about.

 

Perhaps foolishly, I then decided to take the Alfa out immendiately after this after its winter layup. This has pretty much convinced me to stop titting around with this and spend some time on the GTV instead so before it goes on all the usual sites I thought I'd offer it up here.

 

103k miles (I think), fair chunk of history, MOT to october, had clutch & cambelt in the last year, body is really clean, new battery, just serviced 4 Toyo tyres, stainless exhaust (not loud or stupidly large), it's slightly lowered front & back, well specced - aircon, rain sensing wipers, usual electrics and it all works (including the aircon which is dead rare on a 306!), leather & alcantara inside. I'll try and get some more pics over the next few days as I'll try and give it a proper clean.

 

If I was keeping it, one of the rear calipers is a bit sticky, I'd still do the gear linkages although it's a lot better now, rad has been a bit mangled across the top (bent vanes) as it looks like there should be a cover therre that's missing, needs the snorkel from the airbox to the grille, very slight dent on the tailgate (car door type)

 

Price to a shiter £950

 

I'd rather sell it, but I don't mind entertaining the idea of an interesting swap!

[garbaldy]

I like these a lot don't suppose you want a Sierra or a UFO or a BMW or a volvo or a corsa, didn't think so.

[nacho man]

Lets see some more pics our kid.

[J-T]

I've still not got my arse in gear and given this a proper scrub inside but I did take it to the local kosovan kar wash and I must say it came up pretty fugging great! I've not even polished it yet! The inside will look as good given the once over.

 

The pics show the main marks on it - scratch on rear bumper, small dent on tailgate (bit hard to see). There are a couple of very shallow parking dents down the side too small to photograph and a couple of the wheels are a bit scratched.

 

It'll be going up at £1250 elsewhere when I actually get round to it, as previously said £950 to anyone on here.

 

PS. I did take a pic of the other side but it's come out to dark and you cant see owt, not that there's anything to see other than a mirror image of the other side

 

 

 

 

 

 

[purplebargeken]

Bet it is fun to drive. Was the 307 so shit then? Thought they weren't bad looking things. 

[garbaldy]

yup still a nice motor.

[New POD]

The colour is what we in Miseryside call Scally-spraytan.

[sporty-shite]

Was the 307 so shit then? Thought they weren't bad looking things.

Yes they were shit.

 

No they weren't/aren't/ever will be good looking.

 

Ps, I'd love to come and buy this, but unfortunately can afford neither the purchase nor the resultant marital disharmony.

 

GLWTS

[Station]

What results in broke engine mount?

I suspect my 406 has it as a} it's annoying pulling away from a standstill, b} it can't be the clutch as it has been doing it apparently for two years and that kind of 'abuse' would destroy the clutch, which doesn't slip or do anything bad changing gear.

 

306 is such a nice looking car. Dem lines/edges/bends. Beautiful!

[PhillipM]

Tired mounts transmitting too much shock to the chassis - it cracks the steel under the 306 mounts, I've repaired a few.

 However, the 406 has a different design of mounting even though the mount itself is similar. Bottom mounts are still prone to going same as the 306 though. Do you have any knocking noises?

[J-T]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222060013662

 

Now on ebay, offer still stands on here.