Another one bites the dust

[Joloke]

All Yours now

Discuss Away...................................................





 

[UltraWomble]

 

Flux capacitor conversion

[catsinthewelder]

I've been vaguely offered this for cheap so it could replace the Cherry,

 

 

 

Then just run the Disco on veg cut with whatever comes out to replace kerosene in an oil free world.

[dollywobbler]

Aye. I'm quite interested in an EV conversion of pretty much any of my cars. There's no way fossil fuel use will end in five years though. I wish it would, because it'd be a nice two-finger salute to some of the less-nice countries we go running to cap-in-hand for oil. It's entirely unrealistic though. Too many of the alternatives to fossil-fuelled powered cars rely on fossil-fuels themselves ie buses and trains. Plus those enormous container ships that bring us all the pointless shit we've decided our lives need to be full of these days. Going to be a while until they're EV. Maybe if you covered the entire ship in photo-voltaics, it'd be vaguely possible.

[UltraWomble]

Start buying now whilst prices are low...

[320touring]

Due to the demise of the Octy I've been using the 172. suffice to say when petrol runs out I'll miss it.

 

I fancy trying to build a steam car

[Cavcraft]

I reckon by the time petrol and diesel have gone (which will be far far more than five years away) electric cars will be much better by then anyhow

[jonathan_dyane]

We'll be dead before fossil fuels run out.

[Sloth in a bowl]

Due to the demise of the Octy I've been using the 172. suffice to say when petrol runs out I'll miss it.

 

I fancy trying to build a steam car

 

An effective steam car would run on LGP or similar with a flash boiler. No dino juice, no effective steam car.

Anything with a proper (wood/coal) boiler and you are looking at mega tonnes and LGV licencing.

 

 

Remember that there is more dino juice still in the earth than we have burnt so far, it is just a question of extraction cost.

But if there was really none left then....

 

How would home brewed wood alcohol work?

I think that you need about 3 times as much in volume compared to petrol but it could potentially replace petrol for small numbers of vehicles.

 

Massive solar panel systems tied up to water splitters to generate mega industrial levels of hydrogen along with a world wide hydrogen supply network.

Limitless and transportable fuel is the potential.

 

In reality, batteries will get better as new chemical combinations are managed into industrialisation.

 

 

Many a shitter will just turn to waste veg oil as their low tech diesel will burn it quite happily

[castros_bro]

Aye. I'm quite interested in an EV conversion of pretty much any of my cars. There's no way fossil fuel use will end in five years though. I wish it would, because it'd be a nice two-finger salute to some of the less-nice countries we go running to cap-in-hand for oil. It's entirely unrealistic though. Too many of the alternatives to fossil-fuelled powered cars rely on fossil-fuels themselves ie buses and trains. Plus those enormous container ships that bring us all the pointless shit we've decided our lives need to be full of these days. Going to be a while until they're EV. Maybe if you covered the entire ship in photo-voltaics, it'd be vaguely possible.

 

Hi, 

 

Ignore me but PV struggle to be 15% efficient when the sun shines and then impossible* to store the excited electrons.  

 

My ship would have a slightly different approach based on the system being built in Morocco (land of the 205) which harnesses the solar heat energy using curved mirrors to heat a pipe at the focus, this gets hot enough produce molten salt, the energy is mainly stored as latent heat from the change of state of the salt not from its temperature, the molten salt energy is used to generate electricity. The molten salt will be stored in very well insulated vessels so that electricity can be generated whenever needed. This gets over two of the issues with PV. I have just started* building a similar set up to run my moped.

[For Fiats Sake]

I shall remove the rear seats of the panda and wedge it full of old (by then) tesla car bits.

 

WCPGW?

[beko1987]

I'll buy a chip shop as a front for WVO...

[MarvinsMom]

here is an odd thought, how about walking?

[stephen01]

I've been vaguely offered this for cheap so it could replace the Cherry,

 

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Then just run the Disco on veg cut with whatever comes out to replace kerosene in an oil free world.

 

 

mmmm tell me more? what money they after for the sparky van?

 

Ty

[MarvinsMom]

The 17.5 miles to work?

 

The hundred miles to my dad's?

for trips like that you'll be needing a push bike, or a train/bus etc, but for a lot of the other shizzle such as going to the shops, taking the brats to school and the like, then yes, walk, that's what folks did in them olden days.

 

I was several years ago out of work, that's right I was dole scum, and I did without a car for the better art of a year.

 

I fond it quiet liberating, I needed to plan things more so, like getting the train to go and sign on, and also then getting the shopping that I couldn't get easily in town at the same time.

 

and I was using shankses pony the rest of the time.

[jonny69]

Here's another odd thought, how about not living so far away from everything

[vulgalour]

[Sigmund Fraud]

So back to the original question and a hypothetical one,if lets say in twelve months they outlawed fossil fuel cars what becomes of us shitters?

 

Enthusiasts all over the world are already resurrecting borked, early Priuses that they bought for a pittance... It won't be very long before plug-in electric cars reach shite money, and by that time the tools to fix them will also be available to DIYers.

 

And for those of us who prefer the internal combustion engine, there will always be the option of a nice, old diesel run on veg oil.

[MarvinsMom]

Here's another odd thought, how about not living so far away from everything

 

 

like I'm one to talk, I live 140 fookin' miles from where I work!

 

idiot.....

[stephen01]

also folk in the 'olden' days normally had one partner not working,  it's just a different world we live in now. Wife is at work for 7:30 if she had to reply on PT she would have to leave at least 45 mins earlier than she does and still be faced with half mile walk. not only that but the cost of a buss pass is not exactly cheap, so offered the two choices, own heated car away from the general joe coughing all over you, or a walk both side of your journey on a bus.

 

I work a mile from home but still drive as I'm left with 7 mins to get to work after dropping the kids off at school, which we walk, I could cycle in that time but 9/10 times I'm taking two or three bags with me.

[Taff]

Where do you live?

 

Zanussi

 

Hirst makes a good point, as EVs improve and become more mainstream the demand for petrol & benz will drop accordingly. And I doubt that will be for another, oh, 50 years or so.

[Junkman]

I really do encourage you all to save those fossil fuels. No, honestly, I do.

Leaves more for me to burn in big bloody V8s.

 

#checkingpricesof8.2litrecadillacs

[fordperv]

[sierraman]

Look how many old Priuses you see. Theres no wearable parts in the motor, the petrol is a fairly conventional unit. The big problem is the battery, though as I understand you can have this overhauled for £600 according to car mex this month.

[vulgalour]

School runs could be a lot more interesting.

 

 

[R9UKE]

My father in law has just bought this:

 

 

Once you get past the looks, it's actually a really likeable thing. Really quick, it embarrasses a lot when it pulls away from the lights in an eerie whir of excitement.

 

One thing that is an issue is using the climate control to warm the car cuts the range quite a bit, because obviously there's no engine heat to recycle.

 

Another issue is that it's absolutely brilliant to be able to charge for free when out and about, but most places only have one e-car point and charger, and with the increasing popularity of them, its often already taken.

 

This one has what BMW call "Range Extender". A small petrol tank that can act as a back up for if you run low on charge. But it isn't a petrol engine, it runs a generator that then charges the electric motor. Pretty clever.

 

Give me a 540i over it any day though.

[Lacquer Peel]

Look how many old Priuses you see. Theres no wearable parts in the motor, the petrol is a fairly conventional unit. The big problem is the battery, though as I understand you can have this overhauled for £600 according to car mex this month.

They are pointless though, no more fuel efficient than a 20 year old diesel.

 

Really interested in the new wave of electric cars but for now I'm sticking with rubbish old diesels and veg oil.

[mercrocker]

I used to shit myself about this sort of thing. When I was 8. I honestly believed all the 1960s doom-merchants who told us the oil was going to run out before I could even get my provisional. Without going into the oleo-political-eco arguments which are very fucking boring, I do wish some of the twats who clog my village up would actually learn to use their legs. Eight parking spaces outside 12 shops means chaos every single day - even if you try and walk or ride a bike past there its bloody pandemonium. There are FIVE free car parks, none of them full, within 100 metres but they all try and get in these eight spaces.

 

If this is human evolution up to December 2015 then I think we need a mass panic about the ICE and fossil fuels just to get a few of these pricks off the road.

[UltraWomble]

I look forward to an epic collection thread of a 1980's Dawes Galaxy ridden back from Kent to Liverpool with only a rucksack full of digestive biscuits, a thermos of sweet coffee and a puncture repair outfit from 1984 and two teaspoons.

[dave21478]

Not in out lifetimes. I can just imagine kitchen fitters strapping a couple of granite worktops to the roof of a Leaf.....

 

With a bit of luck I will be dead before this becomes a worry, and if I am unfortunate enough to still be alive in 40+ years, then hopefully there will have been some kind of plague or meteor strike or something that wipes out about 80% of the world population, leaving plenty of resources for those who survived.