It could have bloody worked - cars which could have been...

[JeeExEll]

2 hours ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said:

1976 Triumph CrayFord TR7 Tracer (Crayford Engineerin

 

https://www.aronline.co.uk/the-converters/crayford/tr7-trace

WTF were they trying to create?  And why?

Did no-one say at the time 'I think this might be a bit shite', and why are we doing this as the standard car is fine.

Great interesting period pic.

[Asimo]

Perhaps they thought the Lynx wasn’t estate-enough?

(I remember seeing abandoned Lynx outside the Triumph factory (from upstairs on the bus) 1975/6).

 

[ETCHY]

20 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Perhaps they thought the Lynx wasn’t estate-enough?

(I remember seeing abandoned Lynx outside the Triumph factory from the bus, 1975/6)

 

I really don't like the Lynx, it looks overbodied & gawky. It reminds me of a something Bond cars (of Equipe fame) might have come up with. 

[Asimo]

Agreed. Leyland Force 7 was a better effort in the same vein.

[sheffcortinacentre]

The tr7 hatch is in gaydon ,seen pics of a Toledo/dolomite est.

[inconsistant]

11 hours ago, Asimo said:

Agreed. Leyland Force 7 was a better effort in the same colour.

Ftfy

[Asimo]

It is a good colour.  A Cayman is desirable anyway, but this green seals the deal for me!

[motorpunk]

18 hours ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said:

1976 Triumph CrayFord TR7 Tracer (Crayford Engineering)

https://www.aronline.co.uk/the-converters/crayford/tr7-tracer/

There are no two parallel lines anywhere on that. It's like every single panel, hatch, door, trim, glass and fitting on that was designed by a different person, each on different continents, who never saw what the other was up to, or cared, all controlled by a near-blind glue-sniffing maniac who lived in a hole in the ground in Zambia, a man who only communicated with these design minions by telex messages, each instruction carefully hidden in his interpretation of a Nostradamus quatrain, in language studded with phrases relating to glam rock.

I want it. Obviously. 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

19 hours ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said:

1976 Triumph CrayFord TR7 Tracer (Crayford Engineering)

https://www.aronline.co.uk/the-converters/crayford/tr7-tracer/

All kinds of awkward.

[D.E]

The Monteverdi Macho, Granada based with a turbocharged 2.8 V6.

 

[Sham]

A car called Macho? Any hint of the demographic it was aimed at?

 

Front off a Renault 18, rear off a 25?

[JeeExEll]

6 hours ago, Sham said:

A car called Macho? Any hint of the demographic it was aimed at?

The insecure with too much money.

It's a completely new one to me, not often that happens with older Fords these days, interesting find.

 

(Whilst checking out this car I discovered another Swiss creation - well 20 of them - called the Monteverdi Sierra.  Turns out they were based on the Dodge Aspen or Plymouth Volare from the late 70s, not a Ford hatchback.  I'm not even going to post a pic as they looked shit). 

[D.E]

Yeah, Monteverdi built a lot of wacky shit in the late 70s and early 80s. Often one-offs or very small numbers. They came up with a posh Toyota minivan (called a "Super-Ace") and a restyled Subaru as well.

[Inspiral_Mondays]

BMW E46 M3…

…Estate!

Prototype was production ready apparently,

 

[TheOtherStu]

13 hours ago, Inspiral_Mondays said:

BMW E46 M3…

…Estate

Prototype was production ready apparently,

 

I don't understand why they don't make these more.

Audi did a lot of their high-performance stuff ONLY as estates originally (see the B5 RS4 and C5 RS6).

BMW did a limited run of M5 touring, but really, they've rather ignored them.

[Tadhg Tiogar]

15 hours ago, Inspiral_Mondays said:

BMW E46 M3…

…Estate!

Prototype was production ready apparently

I think a couple of tuners have subsequently built their own, a bit like some E30 Touring people used to stuff M30 3.5ltr engines in

[Supernaut]

20 hours ago, JeeExEll said:

The insecure with too much money.

It's a completely new one to me, not often that happens with older Fords these days, interesting find.

 

(Whilst checking out this car I discovered another Swiss creation - well 20 of them - called the Monteverdi Sierra.  Turns out they were based on the Dodge Aspen or Plymouth Volare from the late 70s, not a Ford hatchback.  I'm not even going to post a pic as they looked shit). 

I love it. It looks like a generic unbranded car from Grand Theft Auto, or a similar game.

[martc]

Touch of the Bristol 412 in the above (the Bristol came first...).

[motorpunk]

2 hours ago, Supernaut said:

I love it. It looks like a generic unbranded car from Grand Theft Auto, or a similar game.

That's a hunky thing. Want it. 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

4 hours ago, Supernaut said:

I love it. It looks like a generic unbranded car from Grand Theft Auto, or a similar game.

It's a lot better looking than Monteverdi's later effort, the Tiara. That one looked all shades of wrong.

[JeeExEll]

Another cartoon but I think a 2-dr Zodiac would have worked.  Rear screen is still in original position.  Slightly longer doors, electric side windows x 4.

Similar to late 60s Taunus coupes but with Zode style.

[Asimo]

Nah, I’d rather have this ( but with a Zodiacs’s six-cylinder engine ).

[warch]

 Monteverdi made a 4 door conversion for the Range Rover circa 1980 several years before Land Rover made a factory 4 door model. 

It looked a complete ballache to do, presumably involving designing and building new rear doors, shortening the front doors and designing a central pillar. About 300 were built. Easily spotted due to the badges and angled shut line on the rear doors. 

[High Jetter]

4 hours ago, Asimo said:

Nah, I’d rather have this ( but with the Zodiacs six-cylinder engine ).

+1. Beautiful car, a classic. Oops...

[Dick Cheeseburger]

Rover P8 prototype.

So pretty.

Sadly redesigned by trailer. 

 

 

[Inspiral_Mondays]

7 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Rover P8 prototype.

So pretty.

Sadly redesigned by trailer. 

 

 

Those integrated bumpers would have been a revolution in 1971.

[martc]

 

13 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

 

Has someone from Rover been walking past a Toyota salesroom? Or did a Toyota designer take a peak over Rover's fence? Either way there's quite a lot of that Rover in the Toyota (or the other way round) including the raised bonnet scoop grille thing and lights  and the integrated bumpers. The Crown is from Feb 1971 and J reg's ran from  1/8/70 to 31/7/71...

[Dick Cheeseburger]

2 minutes ago, martc said:

 

Has someone from Rover been walking past a Toyota salesroom? Or did a Toyota designer take a peak over Rover's fence? Either way there's quite a lot of that Rover in the Toyota (or the other way round) including the raised bonnet scoop grille thing and lights  and the integrated bumpers. The Crown is from Feb 1971 and J reg's ran from  1/8/70 to 31/7/71...

I reckon the Rover is prettier.

The flicked-up waistline of the rear door of the Rover is very Datsun 180b. 

[Leyland Worldmaster]

On 10/10/2021 at 8:02 PM, warch said:

 Monteverdi made a 4 door conversion for the Range Rover circa 1980 several years before Land Rover made a factory 4 door model. 

It looked a complete ballache to do, presumably involving designing and building new rear doors, shortening the front doors and designing a central pillar. About 300 were built. Easily spotted due to the badges and angled shut line on the rear doors. 

Didn't LR had to pay Royalties to Montiverdi for each four door thereafter? 🤔 

[martc]

1 hour ago, Dick Longbridge said:

I reckon the Rover is prettier.

The flicked-up waistline of the rear door of the Rover is very Datsun 180b. 

I agree, the Toyota is a bit 'fussy'. I think there's also a touch of Bristol about the rear quarters of the Rover as well.