Sudden dilemma - tell me about small 4wd shite - bonus 2013 S'fest ford video

[M'coli]

Yesterday, I passed the little Lancia on to the custodianship of Barefoot after 2-and-a-bit-months of mad frenetic fun.

What with the scrappage of the Cavalier,

the Pug 205

and the shell of the Metro

at the end of June, I am now down to the Hillman Imp in the garage which needs a shitload of welding to see the road again, and I'm running around in my wife's old Peugeot 106 Escapade.


I've been looking into possible new motors, most of them in the bangernomics category. The list currently stands at:

Peugeot 206 estate, in diesel or XSi form.
106/Saxo 5-door diesel, with pompe Bosch, natch.
Saxo VTR.
C2 GT or diesel.
Ford Puma.
306 turbodiesel (5-door, and Bosch).
Fiat Panda, both old and new.


Those discounted:
Anything silver - Buffy the BX was silver, and I hated the colour.
Vauxhall Corsa 1.6 sport - I priced up what it would cost to insure one (thinking of the one for sale on R-R) and it was nearly double that of a Saxo VTR!
Ford Fusion - too wide for the driveway, I couldn't get out of the car if it was to parked against the house.
Ditto the Renault Modus, so this means:
Anything over 1.75m wide.
Anything longer than 4.1m, unless it's Cavalier or Dolomite shaped.
Anything that won't do 40mpg or more.
Anything VAG-scene.
Edit: anything with sports seats/bucket seats - I don't fit in them and get cramps in my right leg inside 10 minutes due to old injuries and having big thighs.


I'm open to suggestions as to what to buy next, but it must - MUST - be sensibly priced, and MOT'd until next year so no projects.

[catsinthewelder]

Wilson Wilson to the maroon courtesy phone....

[MarvinsMom]

don't buy a pug 206, they are shit.

 

utter, utter shit.

 

kid sister had one when almost new, the final straw was when she came out of work, in the rain and it wouldn't unlock, both with the button on the key, or with the key in the lock.

 

the main fuse/ecu thing on them lives right under the bottom of the windscreen, and when it rains, guess where the water runs....

 

all other suggestions on the list are a good buy, assuming you can find one that isn't driven into the ground/rotten to hell etc.

[Angry Sheep]

Buy a Pooma. They're hilarious and currently dirt cheap. Just buy one cheap enough to scrap when it suffers from terminal rot at MOT time.

[Crusty Sills]

What kind of budget?  sub £1k?

 

My old C2 was a nice car to drive. 

A bit plasticky inside and slightly ungainly lines but they grew on me.

[dave21478]

If you can find one, buy an original unmodded mkI Saxo VTR (Small headlights models). They are the next 205GTi style scene tax investment scheme. I guarantee* you it wont lose money.

[LC Torana]

It's a straight choice between a Minor and an MO Oxford, I'd have thought.

[dollywobbler]

Puma. They look shit in silver anyway.

[M'coli]

It's a straight choice between a Minor and an MO Oxford, I'd have thought.

MO is 4.2m, so it's oot

 

Budget is indeed roughly sub-1K.  Saxo VTR and Puma might have sporty seats, but there are pleanty of other models that can donate their lard-arse-friendly seats to my cause.

 

In addition, the classic policy I'm on for the Imp and Lancia would prefer it to be older than 25 years old...

[phil_lihp]

Puma or an original Saxo, definitely.

[mouseflakes]

Pre-facelift 106 or Saxo dizzler. Our Saxo wasn't Bosch-equipped, but since it used no fuel whatsoever that wasn't really an issue.

 

That 106 Escapade looks ace by the way.

[castros_bro]

Only choice is Citroen ZX diesel n/a or turdo.  Mine measures 1710mm wide and 4090mm long.  Cost peanuts to buy and insure and comfy and economic enough  for my 6'2" + a cement mixer to drive to Portugal  and back the long way.

 

Failing that a 70mpg Citroen AX 1.5D 5 speed fited with Bosche from a Pug 106 1.5D

[EssDeeWon]

Pug 306, although these were plentiful once but now nice ones are thin on the ground.

 

Find a Meridian with half leather in diesel form.

 

£200?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-306-HDI-/161803936401?hash=item25ac442291

 

Could be abit of a project though...

[EssDeeWon]

This one looks very tidy at the 600 mark (1.6 pez) Years MOT.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-306-1-6-Meridian-/111751406921?hash=item1a04e72549

 

Actually, I really like this car, looks mega straight and clean.

 

Would.

[Anglevan]

Do you have anything left of the cavalier, my mate runs a 1982 model and is always struggling for bits.

Regards a car I've just inherited one but it's in your discounted list so that's me out !

[M'coli]

Pug 306, although these were plentiful once but now nice ones are thin on the ground.

 

Find a Meridian with half leather in diesel form.

 

£200?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-306-HDI-/161803936401?hash=item25ac442291

Oh aye?  Does this look silver to anyone else, too?  HDi for non-veggieness too, so I'm oot.

[EssDeeWon]

Doh sorry, missed that detail

[hairnet]

panda...........

 

saxo will turn into a project as will 106

[Cavcraft]

If MOT next year means MOT October, and any other stipulations are unstipulated, I can (hopelessly) offer this...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[purplebargeken]

Hmm, something was muttered about 30mpg. Please pay attention Ms Cartland, woof!

[Cavcraft]

I don't think I could get this that low, it's doing 45 round the doors.

[M'coli]

You'd need to cut it off at the back doors too, and in half down the centre, to fit in with the dimension specs!  There's no way that would fit down the drive nor on the road out the front of the house!

[J-Rod]

Have just bought a Saxo VTR, so I say come join our ranks! What about this one... doesn't look like the twats have had a hold of it yet. 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Saxo-VTR/171900917948?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29973%26meid%3D48b347f1095443539e5f8aea98cf5500%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D321840419133

 

Couple of small things to do on it but that should set you back...ooh... about a fiver. 

[phil_lihp]

This one looks very original and seems like excellent value at £300 considering it's just in need of a major cleanup, a door latch and some cosmetic tidying.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-CITROEN-SAXO-VTR-BLACK-/331635628350?hash=item4d3706193e

 

 

 

[J-Rod]

and if it all goes wrong, I'll have it off you for the bits  

[vulgalour]

Meets quite a few of the requirements and is surprisingly good on long distance runs.  Mike is running in a Supra now so Nugget is surplus to requirements.

 

 

21 years old

1.2 8 valve engine

manual gearbox

5 doors

definitely not silver

MoT until MAY 2016

 

New clutch, all welding needed done, very tidy inside and out, flawlessly reliable and just a brilliant basic little motor.  Think Mike wants £500 or so for it.

[M'coli]

Based on the insurance quote for the Corsa sport and the 1200ccness (I want something faster than the 106), it's a bit of a thanks, but no thanks.  Although...

 

...is the red one with the 4 headlights behind it for sale?

[Cavcraft]

BOOM!

 

[vulgalour]

Based on the insurance quote for the Corsa sport and the 1200ccness (I want something faster than the 106), it's a bit of a thanks, but no thanks.  Although...

 

...is the red one with the 4 headlights behind it for sale?

 

Yes, as it happens.  Just had the wheels powder coated and a fresh set of tyres on.  Rebuilt 2 litre head and brand new brakes next.  Looking somewhere in the region of £10K for that one.

[Station]

1.2 Corsa is rapid enough, I easily got 80mph smoothly on way back home from collecting.