skattrd Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Anyone tyell me what the VM 2.5 TD engines are like? reliable, powerful, economical ... or none of the above?
scruff Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Not especially economical but lots of guts. Pretty noisy. Reliable as long as they have oil and water. Range Rover installation not the best, but nowhere near as bad as some make out. skattrd 1
sierraman Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 They are fitted to amongst others, range rover, rover sd1, jeep Cherokee. Unusual in that they have 4 cylinder heads, all prone to leaking, which I understand is not a cheap job. Again its like a lot of things, if its cheap and its running good it probably worth a punt
wuvvum Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Shedloads of torque, noisy, unrefined, but pretty reliable. Comedy turbo lag.
Tayne Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Dollywobler had a VM Range Rover.I believe the newer ones don't have mult-cylinder heads and are fitted to lots of Korean cars.
Lacquer Peel Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I've had a couple of cars fitted with the 2.5 4 headed monster, a Rover 825D and a Ford Scorpio. They are pretty powerful once you're on boost, the Scorpio was a bit smoother with its electronically controlled fuelling but didn't seem as nippy as the 825D. I cooked the 825D's engine (radiator ran dry due to a hose clip coming loose) with no ill effects.They om nom nom veg, I quite fancy a Jeep Cherokee TD. skattrd 1
NorfolkNWeigh Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I also had a 2.5td Granada,alas not a Scorpio, it was a 4 door Ghia on an M , probably about 4 years old when I bought it. The first diesel I ever had and it was ok ,not much slower than a 2.0 petrol. But from memory not that much more economical either. I only had it about 6 months ran it from 70,000 to about 95, didn't miss a beat. I then chopped it against a 2.0 16v Omega, because the Granny was looking old fashioned . The Omega was smaller inside,more unreliable and used twice as much fuel- another great buy.
dollywobbler Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Dollywobler had a VM Range Rover. Indeed I did. I much prefer the Tdi, but mainly because the turbo cuts in lower down the rev range, and more sweetly. The VM requires more effort to keep it in the sweet spot. When it comes to refinement, there's not a lot in it. Neither engine has much and neither want revving much. Had absolutely no issues with the four-headed monster.
RichardMoss Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 You can crank up the boost and fueling on these for a free power boost: http://www.rover800.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2073
willswitchengage Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Are we talking about the same one that the LDV 'Europe's favourite van' Maxus and later LTI taxis got? Check out this badass 6cyl VM in a RANGE-ROVER dave21478, mat_the_cat, scruff and 1 other 4
Mr_Bo11ox Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 The Rover 825 version of this engine is my all time favourite diesel engine
wuvvum Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 willswitchengage, on 03 Feb 2015 - 7:51 PM, said:Are we talking about the same one that the LDV 'Europe's favourite van' Maxus and later LTI taxis got? Don't think so - I think the engine in the Maxus was OHC and common rail. No idea on the taxis mind.
AnthonyG Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 The one in the Rover SD1 was a 2.4. Very rare in this country as nobody saw the point when new, bet there are a few lurking on leboncoin though. VM had a great ad in the 1990s, which would frequently be on the back cover of Car. It featured a picture of an engine (maybe their only engine) and every vehicle it appeared in, no matter how unpopular or generally crap. Highlights were the aforementioned SD1 and a couple of Alfas, perhaps the 90 and 6. I always wondered how many power train engineers saw it and immediately thought 'yes, if I install that in my new Horsey Horseless, it too will achieve total market domination'
twosmoke300 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I always thought the Granada 2.5 td was the same basic pug motor as the 2.3 Sierra . Everyday is a school day
red5 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Jeeps, Omegas and Fronteras also had it. Electronics failed regularly - about the same frequency as the heads.... I know of one chap who converted his to a Bosch/Zexel rotary pump which ran fine on veg/derv mix - watch out for pump fitting before running it on anything other than Derv. Some applications used (relatively) fragile pumps. Goes well when on song...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I always thought the Granada 2.5 td was the same basic pug motor as the 2.3 Sierra . Everyday is a school day It was, for a long time
Asimo Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 ^^^Omega, BMW 2.5 at first, then replaced with....? VM in a Range Rover on the Ebay thread. And Jeep Cherokee, extra cylinder (and head) in the 3.1 Grand Cherokee.
NorfolkNWeigh Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I think the 4 headed monster replaced the Indenor about the same time as the DOHC replaced the Pinto , from memory that was when the saloons came out, 91ish?Sorry if my mention of Omegas has clouded the water, I meant a 2.0 petrol.
red5 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Omegas had a VM engine?God no. Derp moment.... detuned BMW to start with.
dave21478 Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Check out this badass 6cyl VM in a RANGE-ROVER *sploosh* That sounds gnarly - I love it. Well, less so the under-bonnet clatter, but the exhaust note is delicious. forddeliveryboy, John F and Lacquer Peel 3
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